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Where Are The Founders Of The Dial-Up Revolution?

RIMBoy writes "The Atlanta Journal-Constitution recently tracked down the founders behind the dial-up modem revolution. The founders of Hayes Micromodem set the standard with their AT Command set. While Dennis Hayes finds himself inducted into the Computer Industry Hall of Fame, at the same time he is broke (with a stop as a bar owner) and trying to find the next big thing. Dale Heatherington cashed out early and has dedicated himself to several projects, including ham radio."

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  1. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're waiting patiently for the web to load.

    1. Re:Easy by drix · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm came bit later than the truely nostalgic crowd, but I do distinctively remember as an 8-year-old my trusty Hayes 1200 baud modem with its distinctive metal case and red LEDs. I think I tried to download 600k Wolf 3D about 7 times over two weeks... frickin' Ymodem-G with no error tolerance whatsoever. I'd leave it downloading when I left for school and my mom picked up the phone every time. Finally someone gave it to me on a floppy... and that was how started learning about virii :)

      Them were the days

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  2. well duh by rootofevil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the revolutionaries never make any money. they care too much about their ideas to be hardassed enough to profit. its always the people who come around later that just see a business opportunity.

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  3. Ah, the dialup days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember sitting eagerly in front of my 386, waiting for a single GIF from the adult door of the BBS to download at 1200bps. Then it always turned out to be something crappy that I wasted 5 minutes to download. Porn in those days was so difficult!

    That damn callback verification feature always woke up my mom in the middle of the night when I was cruising the BBS's for porn... Thank god for these "always on" connections!

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  4. Funny how these people go in pairs... by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just look at:

    1. Hayes: Dennis Hayes stays with company, guy who did the technical work, Dale Heatherington, leaves
    2. Microsoft: Bill Gates stays with company, guy who did the techincal work, Paul Allen, leaves
    3. Apple: Steve Jobs stays with the company, guy who did the techincal work, Steve Wozniak, leaves

    So seems like techies have all the fun: start a company, keep a low profile, get rich, and then quit. That way the techie gets to spend the rest of their lives with enough money to just hack!

    Sweet.

    The story was meant to be a sad reflection on Hayes-the-man, ended up making me feel good about being a geek.

    John.

  5. BBS Documentary by jkeegan · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's been covered on slashdot many times so I'm sure people will remember, but there is a BBS Documentary in the works.

    The history of such revolutions should be documented for future generations to learn from.

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  6. Broad Band Revolutionaries by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you mean the great girl bands of the past? The Supremes, the Ronettes, or even the GoGos?

    Check "VH-1 Where Are They Now?" to find out the fate of those great Broad Bands of the past.

    I know about "Heart". They look like Roseanne Barr now.

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  7. Re:Legal, not technical by blogboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I worked for R&D at US Robotics for the first 56K rollout. Cots in the lab, X2 coffee (twice the grounds) as I used to call it, all week and weekend, to beat Rockwell to the punch. And we did. The first batches of course hit in mid-40's but steadily improved. Rockwell would *report* 53K or so but the actual thruput was far less. It was one of the last great times in R&D I had. Line noise is the limit. It explots the digital switching on the network. Good times.

  8. Re:56K limit... by mdmarkus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Between the Central Offices, the connections are digital and multiplexed. The amount dedicated to each channel is 64k with 8k used for switching information. So while it's possible to run better than 56k over a phone line pair (DSL does it at least for limited distances), once you hit the CO, the 56k limit comes into play.

  9. Dale Heatherington by chroma · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've met him a few times at Robot Battles, where we both compete. Dale is the only guy I know of who not only builds robots, but also:
    1. makes his own radio control system
    2. builds his own motor controllers
    3. winds his own motors
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  10. Marriage is killing the guy by zymano · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's not a millionaire anymore with ex-wives taking most of his income. Kind of sad. No wonder people aren't getting married anymore.

  11. Re:Legal, not technical by Burdell · · Score: 5, Informative
    The "53k" limit was a problem with the way X2 worked. Blaming it on the FCC is just a marketing scam; the fact is that the US Robotics engineers couldn't make X2 hit 56k and still work within the pre-defined limits of the telephone system, so they tried to blame someone else.

    Lucent's 56k system could actually do 56k and stay within the limits, but the v.90 standard didn't use Lucent's technology for that.

    As to why nothing is more than 56k: that is all that a standard voice line (or POTS line, for Plain Old Telephone System) can do. A POTS line is carried within a DS0 (the base channel of the phone system), and a DS0 is 64k. You can't get all 64k though, because many voice lines use "robbed bit" signalling that takes one of every eight bits to handle switch communication. Getting 56k at all requires that one end be a digital line (ISDN BRI or PRI or channelized T1); you can't push 56k through the analog to digital conversion otherwise.

    The "what's next" for the telephone system is already here; it is DSL. DSL uses different frequency bands that are not used for POTS lines but that can be carried over the same copper reliably (more or less). However, DSL is not a switched circuit like a modem connection; the DSL frequencies are pulled off the line (by a DSLAM, DSL Access Multiplexer) before the line connects to the regular phone network. So, you can't "dial" a different DSL provider or your friend's house; you can only be connected to one service (and any changes require a call to the DSLAM owner, usually the phone company).

    The other "what's next" was ISDN, which would give you the full 64k channel (because signalling is always done on a separate dedicated channel with ISDN), or 128k if you use both channels (the base ISDN line is a BRI, which has 2 64k data channels plus a signalling channel). However, ISDN use was slowed because it was complicated to configure (you couldn't just plug a phone in and use it), required all new equipment, and even the telcos really never understood it well (so when there was a problem, it could take weeks to get it fixed).

  12. As they say... by arashiakari · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The pioneers get the arrows, the settlers get the corn.

  13. Re:In lieu of the vi vs. emacs debate... by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 5, Funny

    OK. I'm always up for a challenge...

    Dude, XModem sucks! Use ZModem! But whatever you do, don't even think of using Kermit. After all, if you remember Operation Sundevil back in ... what was it ... '92? Someone from Steve Jackson Games explains to a Secret Service guy that Kermit's a 7-bit protocol, and they raided the shop because "only a hacker" would know that (that is, after the SS figured out that Kermit wasn't a specific person). Gives you some insight into the United States intelligence services, doesn't it? Talk about oxymorons... and hey, while we're on the subject of morons, what about the Chimp In Chief, eh? I understand he went to Iraq for Thanksgiving ... great. Piss off the Kurds by bringing Turkey into the whole situation...

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