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How to Misunderstand Open Source

Sam Hiser writes "This article intends to clear up some misconceptions about open source software development practices. It can help developers, IT and business managers transition from a closed development environment to an open one characterized by shorter time-to-market and lower costs. The author, Tom Adelstein -- an experienced CPA, code developer, project manager and consultant -- makes clear the notion that Open Source Software bears a mark of professionalism."

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  1. See also ESR's Prudential Interview by eddy · · Score: 5, Informative

    See also ESR's Prudential Interview.

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    1. Re:See also ESR's Prudential Interview by nickos · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is good too. The last paragraph reads:

      "We're rapidly heading for a world where computers are as common as pens or soccer balls -- and computer skills are as common as basic literacy or ball-kicking ability. And in that world, with or without an organized free software movement, I doubt that even 1/10 of 1% of all the people who "know how to program" will be able to get full-time jobs creating computer software."

  2. Our process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work for a medium-sized group of developers that is financed by one of the leading academic institutions in the East Coast.

    We have 6 developers, employ 18 project managers, and approx 25 sales/accounting folks. We find that our developers are used more efficiently by proofing any submitted code from our open source projects. The role of the project managers is to ensure communication with the other contributors all across the globe, streamline client requirements, and create documentation.

    A ratio of 1:3 between developers and project managers is ideal. It took us about three years to determine a formula that worked within our company. We find it extremely important that our developers are free to code and code only. The project managers will do all the tedious work surround programming, such as documentation, attend meetings, debugging, research, and even participating in social activities.

    We generate a revenue stream of over $20 million (AUS) last year and were able to clear a handsome profit.

    Which is nice.

    1. Re:Our process by selderrr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The project managers will do all the tedious work ... (snip)

      You are so lucky te be able to create a structure like that. My guess is that 99% of the development units around the world have the same programmers vs. managers ratio, but have a net result of managers dumping work & shit on the developers' head. A slashdot poll would no doubt result in 99% of us calling managers 'crap' and only 1% (or less) calling them 'useful for levelling the workload'

      On the other hand : work without managers is a waste too, since you'll get the clients in your neck, which is even a bigger pain.

    2. Re:Our process by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason most project managers don't do this is because they have the title "manager". They feel they're supposed to manage. Unfortunately, they try to manage the programmer, not the project. They also don't understand the development process. Frankly, the problems lies with upper management who've never written a line of code. Maybe the project managers should be given the titles of sales consultant or customer handler. Heck, the best project managers I've seen refer to themselves as "fecal matter" handlers. Okay it's been sanitized for the kiddies.

      Business majors don't want to think of themselves as equal with the people who develop the product. Heck, they certainly don't want to be seen as doing some programmer's busy work. Why we all know that programming is "blue collar" work anyway. It probably doesn't help that the average programmer really can't relate to the issues of sales either.

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  3. With all due respect, how many of these are needed by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems we get a fairly regular drip-feed of "No look, this is what it REALLY is" articles in the computer press, and yet people still don't "get it".

    What's wrong with what's happening here ? Is the coverage in the wrong area ("preaching to the converted") ? Is the message simply being disbelieved ("TANSTAAFL") ? Is the lobbying by the closed-source community simply better (all those expense accounts...).

    I think all of these articles make good points (all that I can remember reading, anyway), but unless they start to make a difference, they're just hot air :-(

    I suppose there's always the argument that you need lots of fresh meat at the sharp end before the grinder (mainstream press) starts to notice any difference. If it's simply that it's a slow process, then by all means chaps, carry on :-)

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  4. Open Source is good for the economy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Non commercial software = less unneccessary and non-core expenditure for businesses = more money for research and development, capital investment, salaries and wages, and marketing = better economy = better for the people.

    1. Re:Open Source is good for the economy by aastanna · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That really depends who you work for. I do development for a living as well, but mine is based on specialized business knowledge developing custom applications and processes. Open source software is very useful in this context because it allows stable components to be aquired at no cost (for example a C++ XML parser, or a cross platform wrapper on things like sockets/pipes/threads). This allows more time and money to go into the business logic.

      If, on the other hand, you develop shrink wrap software for the mass market then open source can be detrimental. You now have no-cost compitition. However if that's what you're doing I don't see any reason your job shouldn't be outsourced to India or China.

    2. Re:Open Source is good for the economy by JamesOfTheDesert · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I 'm a software developer, I do commercial development for living. How is open source ideology better for ME ?

      Welcome to the club. :)

      OSS has allowed me to play with programs, languages, and IDEs that I could never touch if I had to pay for them.

      Releasing OSS has given me experience and feedback that I could not get if somebody had to shell out for my time, while dictating what I was doing.

      I'm a better software designer thanks to OSS, and this translates into better jobs (i.e. $$$).

      I'm more productive and happier because I can use completely free and open language, such as Ruby. (Thanks, matz!)

      Even if you only code in VB 6 on some flavor of Windows, you owe it to yourself as a developer to go poke around other languages and environemnts, and OSS is one big playground.

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  5. Not free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We felt we got a free puppy too. The management of our shop actually concluded that Redhat Linux (EE) was more expensive to install and maintain in the short term than Windows 2000/XP. We haven't used it long enough to study any long term effects.


    The reasons?


    1) Installing software correctly (apache, mysql, sybase) is a time thief. Installation is sooooo much more straightforward in Windows.

    2) Propagating changes in configuration (and new versions) is a hell in Linux, especially Sybase and Oracle products.

    3) Less documentation (usually) from commercial vendors.

    4) Worse support (usually) from commercial vendors.


    We're hoping to see long term effects in stability. The problem is that NONE our eight Windows 2000 servers has ever crashed...


    That said, Linux is so much cooler.

    1. Re:Not free by fuzzybunny · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Good points, well stated, mod parent up pls.

      Let me give a counterpoint to this. I'm putting together an incident response team for a major bank here--we deal with vulnerabilities, security-related system outages, and investigations. I also have a fairly wide background in architecture design and implementation, and systems engineering and administration. So, having gotten that out of the way, a few statements. Flame away, but these are generalizations, based on opinion and experience:

      Windows boxes are usually a lot more straightforward up front. This is a fact. No amount of whingeing about webmin, apt-get/ports and whatnot will change this (although FreeBSD ports just rock.) To install, you put a CD into a drive and click some buttons.

      The real problems are twofold. First, as complexity rises (we're talking 30,000+ workstations here plus god-knows-how-many Windows servers) your ability to keep an overview of things like patch deployment, user rights, software versions, etc. becomes a nightmarish time-sucker. MS have made some steps in the right direction with things like SUS; nonetheless, I've always found software update implementations as well as user rights tracking, among many things, to be horrendously kludgey in pure Windows environments. I realize that a lot of this is usually due to crappy procedures; nonetheless, the common answer to something like a fucked-up desktop PC is to have it collected and re-installed. Great.

      The second is, and I'm sorry to say this, security. It is absolutely true that I cannot just "jump in" and fix code in, say, a Linux kernel, when a hole is discovered. Just based on experience, though, I have yet to see a single worm hit a Solaris (yes yes I know, open source) or Linux environment with anything approaching the ferocity of what we've seen in the Windows world.

      The last point I keep making is one that everyone knows, but management do an ostrich (stick yer head in the sand, pretend nothing's happening) anyway; that is, in a complicated IT environment (managers, listen up) you simply do not get around hiring a bunch of really smart people and paying them a lot of money. It is illusory to assume that simply because your software installs at the push of a button, your IT is stable and reliable.

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    2. Re:Not free by clifyt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with this sentiment.

      At my institution, I have had to maintain a Windows environment as well. I have 5 Windows machines and other than hardware crashes (HD failing, a fan burning out and the thing dying as it overheats because my people who claimed to have done maintenance haven't taken the time to blow the sucker out...that sort of thing).

      I know how to get a decent Windows install and I know how to do it right. I can also hire students to work for me without having to pay a grad student $15 an hour who barely understands the Unix environment (sadly, 15 years ago when I was just entering the university environment, most of the geek kids DID know unix and were comfortable with it...if only so they could compile their own MUDS).

      Past that, we are slowly migrating towards open solutions. One of my webservers uses Apache instead of IIS, they ALL use PHP / Perl. The GNU Tools are installed to that I can to things fast and efficient for myself. MySQL has taken the place on our database server from our SQL Server.

      Its as much as I can do in the current environment I am in...I'd LOVE to be able to go with a pure Linux / BSD / OS X whatever unix based solution instead of Windows, but sometimes you do whats the best for your situation and realize the free puppy is a more of a problem than its worth sometimes. At home and my side business, I'll take the stray dog in...he guards my home and the bit of food and a warm blanket I give him is more than a fair trade.

  6. Open Source is good for the economy by bizcoach · · Score: 5, Informative
    Non commercial software = less profits for businesses = worse economy = worse for the people.

    That is nonsense.

    First of all, open source software doesn't have to be non-commercial. For details, see the Free Software Business Strategy Guide.

    However it is true that many open source projects are non-commercial in nature. The resulting software is still quite often suitable for business use.

    From an economics perspective, each proprietary software program is a monopoly - only one company is able to fix problems and release new versions. Monopolies are good only for the company holding the monopoly, not for everyone else.

    Therefore, if proprietary software goes out of fashion, this will be bad for precisely those businesses whose main stream of revenue is from software licensing. This will however be good news for all other companies.

    Whether this will mean less or more jobs for programmers is hard to say in advance. There will be fewer jobs at specialized software companies and there will be more jobs at companies which use software, since it'll make sense for companies which use software to have relevant expertise in-house.

  7. here's one misconception by jeffy124 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that we're all hobbyists and only do OSS in our spare time (the description often made in news articles).

    Not necessarily the case, especially with the more major OSS products. Companies of various sizes have staff writing and contributing OSS code as their full-time job, and many university students also contribute as part of research projects. Even CmdrTaco could fall under the category of a small-company contributer for his work on Slashcode.

    The hobbyist argument is often made in FUD from MS to try and say that "we have professionals working for us, who does OSS have?" We should answer with somehting like "Redhat, IBM, Sun, Novell, ..." and so on.....

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  8. How to Misunderstand Closed Source by A+coward+on+a+mouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Copied my post on the same topic at OSNews...

    I'm reasonably certain that this comment will be poorly received here (at Slashdot as well as OSNews), but I just can't keep it to myself, so oh well.

    Truly, the author does a good job of dispelling one piece of FUD kicking around regarding open source software, specifically the belief that most open source software is written by wild-eyed loners without any concept of planning or design.

    Other than that, the article is, umm, not so good. Nearly everything he says about closed source processes describes "big company" closed source processes. I work for a small closed source shop and his description of the open source development process is very *very* close to our process. It sounds as if his only closed source experience was with IBM, which is quite possibly the most extreme example of a process-bound company one could imagine.

    Since analogies and similes are so popular on this thread, I would suggest that he what he is saying is like saying that vehicles made in Japan are more responsive than those made in America, using as examples a Japanese sports car and an American diesel locomotive.

    Anybody who has worked in or with a smaller, more nimble closed source shop will see his description of the "closed source process" as bullshit. Many of these people will conclude that the author is a crank and proceed to ignore the good point he does make about the professionalism of many open source projects and companies.

    The same applies to the stuff about standards. Closed source shops can and do adhere to open standards; I know we make every effort to do so in my shop. Many many open standards were originally developed by closed source shops cooperating to facilitate communication between closed source products and to offer the market choices in how to combine them. I know this is hard for some open source zealots to believe, but many closed source shops know that offering products based on open standards can help improve adoption of new technologies; when the tide comes in, all boats rise, ours and the competition's both.

    Don't get me wrong, I think open source software is a Good Thing; I use it daily (Mozilla, OpenBSD, Knoppix, blah blah blah) and push it whenever I get the chance. I just don't think this article is about what the author says it's about and I don't think it will appear convincing to anybody that isn't already convinced.

    PS - It also doesn't help that in an article about professionalism in the open source world he flubs "stock in trade" and "give way" in the opening sections.

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    1. Re:How to Misunderstand Closed Source by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 4, Informative

      I work in a lab of 23 people for a government contractor. The author's description of a closed source envirnoment is VERY much like ours.

      The name of the game here is process. Don't get me wrong, process is good, but when it gets in the way of logical decision making, process is bad. And management's knee-jerk reaction any time there's a problem ... add another step to the process. [rant mode elevating] Only half our lab are actually developers - 1 mgr, 4 sys admin types, 3 leads, and 2 process nazis. I've seen my coding time over the last 3 years go from around 50% to about 25% due to process "improvements". The rest of my time is spent in meetings, reviews, and documentation. You want that bug fixed? Well, you're looking at a month turnaround minimum. Yeah, it was a one-liner or two-liner, but we've got to cost the anomaly report, potential revisions and reviews for the requirements doc, the design doc, hand code over to CM, wait a week for them to build it and admin to configure, retest (sorry, that's full testing, we don't trust regression), test report, and acceptance meeting - each meeting has a three-day lead in which the documents must be released for review prior to the meeting. Any action items must be completed prior to moving to the next step in the process. Oh yeah, don't forget to do the paperwork associated with the original anomaly report...gotta get concurrence from the originator that your fix is legitimate. Oh, they're on vacation? Ok, hunt someone else down, explain the problem, show how to duplicate it, and if you're lucky they'll give you a thumbs up. Otherwise, give them time to look at it... Gotta get that CMM level 3, ya know.

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  9. The biggest misunderstandings by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This article intends to clear up some misconceptions about open source software development practices

    The biggest misconception is that Apache is indicative of all Open Source projects and that Microsoft is indicative of all Propriatory software providers. The fact is that every project is different, you can't lump them all together in one neat package and say "this is how all these work".

    The second biggest is that if you don't like a feature or bit of functionality within an open application you can just literally "jump in" and hack the code. This completely ignores the fact that even if you can code, most products are insanely complex and it'll take you several months to truely understand how it works, how it's put together, how the pieces interract and how you should go about working with it.

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  10. How to Misunderstand Open Source by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 4, Funny

    How to misunderstand open source?!?

    That's an easy one.

    Just listen to what Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates or Darl McBride have to say on the matter.

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  11. Professionalism??? by vacuum_tuber · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "...makes clear the notion that Open Source Software bears a mark of professionalism."

    Oh. That must explain why so much of OSS is broken and has documentation that is incomplete and often actually erroneous, not to mention the almost endless nested dependencies that often break on install, making the install of the top-level item incomplete and hosed.

    "Professionalism" my ass.

    I detest closed software but professionalism is precisely what is lacking in OSS. The prevailing rule seems to be, "Close is good enough!"

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  12. Re:Open Source is bad for the economy by lilo_booter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... I've probably been trolled here, but it was the early and confused modding of others that prompted me to respond to this. Personally, I would have just modded this down if there was an option for 'misinformed' or 'just plain wrong'.

    Consumers don't buy software; people aren't paid to write software for the sake of writing software.

    Consumers buy services and products; people are employed to provide services and products.

    Software is a means to these ends, but it is not the end.

    Open source provides the ability for companies to focus on the products and services they wish to sell, and employ people who specialise in those areas, rather than having or paying a bottom heavy and expensive zoo full of code monkeys. Think of all those things you need to do take a product to market - product design, research and development, support infrastructure, documentation, advertising etc etc.

    You might want to rephrase your comment and say 'worse for programmers'.

    But even then, if you're a company that relies on open source and is profiting from it, you would do well to remember that it's only going to work if those open source projects are maintained and supported... solution? You fund the open source projects - you don't employ people specifically, they're free to be funded by many companies and they're free to walk away too, while still leaving the option for others to take over and compete.

    Sounds like a good thing for the economy (and even for programmers) if you asked me...

  13. Misconceptions by sql*kitten · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From the article:

    His organization has started transitioning from a closed model to a standards based model


    Anyone who starts from the premise that closed-source precludes the use of open standards won't have much of value to say on the matter. I cite Sun as a key example - an almost entirely closed-source company that has one more than almost anyone else to drive open standards.

    Slashdot needs to start evaluating articles on quality and not just on how well they conform to the approved "open source is good" party line.
  14. Misconceptions... by BJZQ8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was at a conference yesterday where I heard several misconceptions about Linux...first off, the main presenter told everyone that Linux was "open for the world" and "anybody could get in and see your code." I thought that was just wonderful. He didn't want to hear it, but my contention would be that's like looking at a house, but the realtor/builder says "you can't inspect the foundation though...just trust us!" Wheras Linux is more like a house that you can inspect, take apart, rebuild whatever way you like. Of course, though, Microsoft products are "more mature" and "suited to a professional environment." Sheesh. All of the other attendees nodded their bobble heads in agreement.

  15. Back-asswards by richie2000 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Misunderstand Open Source? Bah. I want to understand Miss Open Source.

    (I bet you thought that link would be to something else. ;-)

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  16. The message is complicated by sjbe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It seems we get a fairly regular drip-feed of "No look, this is what it REALLY is" articles in the computer press, and yet people still don't "get it".

    What's wrong with what's happening here ? Is the coverage in the wrong area ("preaching to the converted") ? Is the message simply being disbelieved ("TANSTAAFL") ? Is the lobbying by the closed-source community simply better (all those expense accounts...).


    They don't "get it" because the message is simultaneously complicated and unusual. Think about it. It's really hard to explain to a random business person how open source makes sense. ("Why would I give stuff away?...") More importantly the argument for open source is powerful, but it's not simple. When you are trying to convinve people, simplicity of the message matters.

    This is something I've noticed with companies. As a rule of thumb the ones that can explain in a few words what they do, tend to do pretty well. Microsoft sells software, IBM sells computers & services, Wal*mart is a retailer, etc. When they try to get fancy it's much harder to communicate to investors and customers why they should care about you. All those fancy "exchanges" we saw during the dot com boom? Really tough message to get across.

    While they have other advantages, message simplicity is one reason the RIAA is so effective in lobbying against filesharing. Their message (correct or not is beside the point) is summed up in one word, "theft". I haven't heard anyone make an equally coherent one word counter argument. Not for lack of trying trying either.

    Open source to some degree suffers from the same problem. It's hard to explain concisely and coherently why it's good. Not for lack of trying mind you. Think about "free as in speach/free as in beer". That's an explanation that we almost always have to explain. Not good.

    We make fun of them a lot but this is what marketing folks are (supposedly) good at. They spend enormous amounts of time trying to figure out how to get exactly the right message across in the most concise manner possible. And it's really, really hard to do well. It's an art form in some ways like making really tight reliable code. The really good stuff takes a lot of time and smarts to come up with, but is amazing to watch when it works.

  17. Haha by xant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good one. Knowing how to program isn't a skill anyone can just acquire by being exposed to computers. After all, implementation hiding is one of the principles of interface design. So people exposed to the interfaces of software are being shielded from how it works internally, and they aren't going to absorb that knowledge. And even if they were exposed to the guts all day long, programming has a conceptual foundation in mathematics and needs a great deal of patience and practice--practice developing your memory to hold long logic chains mentally until they come to fruition in the software, practice knowing what patterns work and what don't, practice building disciplined habits.

    That said, I've always argued that anyone can become a computer programmer. But the skills are not the sort of thing you pick up just by using a computer all your life. You have to seek out training beyond that.

    I do agree with his point about the service model of software development. It's just not going to be anywhere near as hard as he claims it will be to get a job that way.

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  18. Re:Could someone answer my questions? by LemonYellow · · Score: 5, Informative

    If this is a troll, I apologise for my naivete. Anyway, here are your answers:

    1) The article suggests that open source methods are useful even in a closed environment. You're right; If the code isn't available then it isn't open source.

    2) 'License alignment' can be a problem. The premise is that you only get to play the open source game if you play by the rules; If you want to use the products of others' hard work, you have to make your own code available. Projects which rely on closed binaries can't use code licensed under the (restrictive) GPL at all, but may be able to use code with less restrictive licenses (like the Lesser GPL.)

    3) Plenty of companies make money from open source code, they just don't make it from keeping code secret. Usually the money is to be made by adding convenience (shrink-wrapped software with a nice installation routine, say) or services (such as support.) Of course, they don't have the same development costs as companies which are closed, as they can build on the work of others rather than starting from scratch.

    4) Most programmers (AFAIK) work for companies where the end product isn't software. They are in-house programmers developing internal systems, or the company uses software to sell hardware, or the company uses software to sell support. Companies which go open-source will surely have a business plan which will take into account the loss of revenue in software sales. The money is to be made elsewhere.