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Linux in the Developing World
Norsemann writes "Peter Spotts of the Christian Science Monitor has some very interesting things to say about the latest wave of Linux adoptions throughout Asia and beyond. He hits on some important points about not only China's role in Open Source but the 'global' role in Open Source... Perhaps the best is still yet to come." The BBC also has a nice story about Brazil using Linux in cybercafes.
It is OSS. When you run your entire operation on MS you're having your data infrastructure being controlled by a foreign government.
OSS is the best thing in the world for those governments who might be a little suspect of U.S. commercial interests.
The other advantage is that OSS helps to close the gap between the haves and the have nots. There are those people that romanticize the developing world and think that bringing technology to them is a bad idea. Well obviously these people have never been to the developing world and the lack of technology in these places helps to keep them in the third world.
Ironically a tremendous number of people in Nepal have email access and the guesthouse I stay in in Kathmandu runs everything on Linux.
The same type of people who built our digital past..
here's a hint, it wasn't megacorp!
megacorps just figure out how to make it for the masses...
I have not RTFA but I would imagine this is about the ever-increasing market share of GNU/Linux.
Now, I am not actually sure we'll see the day when everybody and their mothers will run Linux as we know it.
I somehow think that, in the end, Linux will indeed be everywhere but hidden below some proprietary interfaces... Kinda like BSD-under-Aqua = OSX.
I wish I were wrong but it would still be a nice thing to see both systems coexist this way.
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This is certainly interesting to see that Open Source is being more widely accepted in the developing world. It bring to question, in what manner developers of programs that are not open source will attempt to combat this. Microsoft's recent pricing of Windows OS for only $40 in Thailand is an example of these attempts. Will this attempt by Microsoft really have an impact in Thailand, or is this simply an act of desperation? I wonder what the current impact is of computers running Linux in Thailand?
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We're seeing usage and adoption here because it's free. On the face of it adoptions like this look good but there are no long term plans to educate or update the software that is being used in many of these scenarios... the reality is that vast chunks of the developing world will be dumped in 2003 with little or no sustainable technology future.
OpenSource makes tons of sense in the "developing" and "cybercafe" world for several reasons. The flexibility in licensing and the diminished need for patching over the dialup lines (speaking of remote locations, of course...some of the best public access to the Internet I've seen is outside the traditional developing world) is a great asset to those on tight budgets. However, it goes further than that. As the non-Western economies tend to have a different standard of living, even inexpensive licenses (compared to our costs) could be cost prohibitive. I have a close relationship with some teachers from Belarus and the piracy there is rampid not because people are necessarily out to steal from "the man," but rather a $50 or $75 dollar copy of Windows XP Pro (and come on, other than NFR copies or those that get on reseller deals...it's never that cheap here) would put the software out of reach for all but the elite. That being said, if you want to following licensing (like in a school), the alternative is clear.
And there is a MAJOR push for Linux on the desktop here at the moment. Here is why:
:P) but this is what you get without an affordable public education system...
Previously businesses and individuals bought their software via low-cost vendors of pirated software. This kept their cost down.
More recently, the Indonesian gov't has been crackind down on said vendors (a good thing IMO). THis is causing people to choose between paying full price for Windows or getting Linux at little or now charge. When you consider that the average worker here makes less than 20% what a worker makes in the US, the equasion is not very ballanced.
So, here comes Linux on the desktop at least here. Unfortunately, I have been less than impressed with the skill of the IT workforce here (at least one network admin I met didn't know what localhost referred to
Anyway, I think that the third world WILL drive Linux on the desktop adoption for some time to come.
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About 6 years back I developed and setup a Cyber Cafe management system that ran 100% off Linux and Open Source tools.
For developing countries like India one of the major advantages of Open Source is the Cost factor and the general commuinity based support avilable for most Open Source platforms. Added to that the fact that things work the way they are supposed to, and you have systems running for well over 60 - 80 days without the need for a reboot / support of any nature. The end result is a winning combination all the way.
The other major advantage of investing in Open Source is that the younger generation ( who are'nt into the commercial aspects of computing as yet ) grow up and learn within a framework that encourages choice and alternatives rather than constricting you into a predesignated thought process.
In things as they stand today, we need this kind of liberty of thought and process.
That's the world that many Asian IT companies and deparments live in.
Just think about that for a minute, and imagine how it would turn your world upside down: People are cheap - servers are expensive.
In this environment, stuff like Linux makes even more sense than it does in "the west".
People like TurboLinux and Red Flag Linux are all over this opportunity here in China and elsewhere in the region.
This article made me wonder what might happen IF an outcome of the SCO action is that the GPL invalidated or crippled in some fashion. Could some or most of the rest of the world continue to honor the GPL, while the US does not - that would lead to some real weirdness. Maybe a lawyer can comment.
the reality is that vast chunks of the developing world will be dumped in 2003 with little or no sustainable technology future.
Bill? Is that you?
"Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
Venezuela also adopted Open Source in its government offices like a year ago.
I've been using Linux at home since 1995, and enjoyed every moment (even the learning, frustrating ones!); and whenever I can, I try to make my venezuelan friends become aware of GNU/Linux and Free (as in speech) Software.
Back to work!
We were living a dilemma here in Brazil, as our law doesn't recognize a contract written in a language other than Portuguese. On the other hand, the FSF would not recognize any translation of the GPL as official.
But now it does. As of yesterday, this article at creative commons talks about the very first official translation of the GPL into a language
other than English. (Full text of the CC-GPL in Brazillian Portuguese is here.)
The news I've read about it also say that there are some modifications to make the license valid according to brazillian laws, but I had no checked this so far.
-><- no
...software that runs network computers called "servers"
Finally, an article that challenges me technically.
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I'm currently stationed in Somalia in a physician exchange program. While they may not have the most advanced technlogy around, they offer dual-channel ISDN in the capital and dial-up access can be had in most towns.
While piracy is rampant, most legitimate (i.e. with international connections) seem to prefer Linux due to the prohibitive costs of the MS licensing. Of course there may be some issues when exchanging documents, but these issues are minor.
From speaking to some of the IT guys is their disbelief that we in North America still choose to spend so much money when there are low-cost options available. I guess it's why we drive SUVs and stuff our faces in all-you-can-eat buffets.
This is an important development that doesn't get the attention it deserves. Meanwhile, U.S. schools are almost completely dominated by proprietary software -- could it be that in not too long a timespan ( 20 years?) the U.S. will start to become an intellectual ghetto? I mean, the ratio of engineers and CS majors is dropping in this country compared to MBAs/lawyers. Anyway -- here it comes: I for one welcome our new Brazilian street-urchin overlords!
Think about it further....
I have a large number of NCD terminals I bought for my side business. 20 of these run off ONE dual P-III server. now you dont have to use ncd terminals, old Pentium 100 computers work great for this.
now I can have one server act as 20 workstations AND a server. no extra cvosts per workstation, and cince I can use throw away hardware for workstations my costs are even lower. (I got the NCD terminals, a pallet of 144 of them for $20.00 at an auction.) if a terminal fails I throw it away, replace it with another and boot.. nothing to restore or set up again.
this is only possible with linux+OSS. as with windows the same thing would cost many thousands as I would need 2 more servers and 2 licenses per workstation for the OS and apps to do the same thing with the same performance.
I am selling Open source solutions based on "terminals" and linux to businesses here that the windows people can't even compete with. One Machine shop owner absolutely loves the fact that if a PC dies (rare now) nothing has to be done other than swap the workstation and the user continues to work... no call to me for a service call and having that user down for 2-3 hours. I maintain their system in a contract basis, many things I do over ssh from my home.
not only asian companies see this as a benefit, but American businesses are seeing that it's just plain stupid to use microsoft products anymore... It's just too expensive.
Now lets have backers of open source demonstrate a better image by writting thank you letters. If he , and his editors, see that this is popular, they are more likely to continue writing favorably about our community.
Think global, act loco
Open your head just a little. The Monitor is a reputable journal.
Think global, act loco
I hope you are being ironic.
For years the CSM was seen as one of the journalistic paradigms, favorably compared with the NYT and the Washington Post for the quality of her investigative journalism. While it has fallen off over the past 10 years, it is still and excellent news source, and very important, very fair, and exceedingly well written.
The situation in some Asian countries runs counter to this article, at least for the mass adoption of open source.
Piracy is rampant and the cost of a Windows installation is only around 50c American. Bandwidth is expensive, so downloading a Linux ISO is also prohibitively expensive, definitely more so than buying a pirate CD off the streets.
Linux distros are pre-pressed and available for sale. However, those distros are usually 3-5 disks (3 for Mandrake,5 for Suse). A Windows install, is the price of 2 disks at most. Everyone has "heard" of Windows, not many have heard of Linux. Therefore, you go with the software that you've heard of, rather than trying out new,esoteric OS and tools. That is why Linux is limited to some corporate servers and hobbyists only.
Which one is wider used ? Windows, of course. Will that change anytime soon ? Only when there is a crackdown on pirated software.
I have a large number of NCD terminals I bought for my side business. 20 of these run off ONE dual P-III server. now you dont have to use ncd terminals, old Pentium 100 computers work great for this.
now I can have one server act as 20 workstations AND a server. no extra cvosts per workstation, and cince I can use throw away hardware for workstations my costs are even lower. [...]
this is only possible with linux+OSS.
Wrong. This is absolutely nothing new. Time-shared servers have been around *long*, *long* before Linux and OSS, even before I was born (I'm 35 now). Early computing was this model (big mainframes with many cheap ttys - ever wonder where VT100 terminal emulation came from, for example?). You put all your compute type resources in one expensive node and then hang cheap terminals off it for folks to input into the server. From there, folks started making minis and eventually the personal computer. The model you talk about here is just the wheel on its second revolution around. Also, I've seen 100s of cheap terminals hang off a machine that had less than 1/100th of the processing power of your PIII box. Nothing new here.
as with windows the same thing would cost many thousands as I would need 2 more servers and 2 licenses per workstation for the OS and apps to do the same thing with the same performance.
Not that I necessarily disagree with you here, but given the rest of your post, I'd like to see the numbers and report that you made that prove this assertion. What I do disagree with is someone just blabing out garbage like this as fact when there is no evidence to support it.