KDE 3.2 beta 2 Released

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Posted by timothy on Monday December 8, 2003 @01:49PM from the breaker-breaker-beta-2 dept.

KentoNET writes "The KDE dot is reporting that KDE 3.2 beta 2 has been released. 'Dobra Voda,' as the release is named, still has some rough edges, but developers are urging users to test and report bugs in the new beta. Binaries are available for SuSE, Fedora and Slackware. Also released was another beta of Gideon, KDE's in-development IDE."

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I feel cheated. by Feztaa · 2003-12-08 14:13 · Score: 1

According to this, KDE 3.2 final was slated for release today... instead, we get 3.2... BETA 2!

Gah.
1. Re:I feel cheated. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 14:18 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  maybe u shoulda read this then!
2. Re:I feel cheated. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 14:49 · Score: 0
  
  Unfortunatly, too many people were gone during holidays. I guess free software hackers need breaks too =]
  
  Just wait till all of the KDE and Linux kernel hackers get converted to Islam. You'll see rapid progress during the month of Ramadan.
3. Re:I feel cheated. by twener · 2003-12-08 21:44 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Request your money back!
Developers Section by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 14:55 · Score: 0, Offtopic

Why are all the stories in the Developers section always about product releases or developer organizations. I want to see some stories about actual developer stuff; you know, technical stuff, stories about programming, stuff like that.
1. Re:Developers Section by Pengo · 2003-12-08 15:52 · Score: 0, Offtopic
  
  I wish I knew of an active place like slashdot which was focused on exactly that. Seems that it's always the same old crap here. I can read release anouncements on freshmeat.
2. Re:Developers Section by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 18:49 · Score: 0
  
  It's a good point. When a programming topic is posted, it usually gets very good discussion and a pretty high volume. Compared to $LATEST_SCO_NEWS stories which are all basically the same.
Does it really even matter? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 15:43 · Score: 1, Interesting

Does it? I mean, come on. If Windows changed this often, we would have total chaos amungst users and developers alike... much like what is happening with linux. You thought WINDOWS had a DLL hell.
Dobra Voda by pcbob · 2003-12-08 15:49 · Score: 3, Informative

Means "Good Water", for those of you with no slavic background...
1. Re:Dobra Voda by DiSKiLLeR · 2003-12-08 17:44 · Score: 1
  
  "Good Water?"
  
  I was thinking that the second I read "Dobra Voda" on slashdot.org.
  
  I'm polish, btw.
  
  D.
  
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  You can tell how powerful someone is by the magnitude of the crime they can commit and be able to get away with.
2. Re:Dobra Voda by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 20:32 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  This is obviously a typo, they really meant Dobra Vodka :-)
3. Re:Dobra Voda by nitehorse · 2003-12-09 14:22 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  It's sort of an inside joke.
  
  At the KDE conference in Nove Hrady, the university supplied tons of water bottles for us and they all had the label "Dobra Voda" which we found quite amusing for a variety of reasons. Namely, 1) The water was actually not that good, and 2) Some of the water was carbonated, which made it taste really interesting, especially when we weren't expecting it.
4. Re:Dobra Voda by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-12 11:05 · Score: 0
  
  "Dobra Voda" would rather be something like good vodka rather than having something to do with weather :).
Changelog by Safrax · 2003-12-08 16:02 · Score: 1

Anyone got a changelog for this? I couldn't see one linked on the front page of kde.org or in the link on the article.
1. Re:Changelog by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 23:27 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, I'm very interested in a changelog.
Why do I reply to trolls? by mhesseltine · 2003-12-08 16:59 · Score: 1

Why are all the stories in the Developers section always about product releases or developer organizations. I want to see some stories about actual developer stuff; you know, technical stuff, stories about programming, stuff like that.

You know, it is possible for you to submit your own links to stories, topics, etc. If there's something in particular you find interesting and worth discussing, submit an article about it so that others may get the opportunity to see it and discuss it.

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1. Re:Why do I reply to trolls? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 17:28 · Score: 0
  
  You know, that's not such a bad idea. I will keep it in mind. I wasn't trolling, BTW.
Yes, there is such a place. by Inoshiro · 2003-12-08 17:22 · Score: 3, Informative

Kuro5hin's technical section has much to do with the details of programming and the like. Feel free to browse it, or even add to it.

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screenshots by yarbo · 2003-12-08 19:10 · Score: 2, Interesting

here not mine, found those linked in one of the links.
1. Re:screenshots by twener · 2003-12-08 21:47 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Way more KDE 3.2 screenshots
2. Re:screenshots by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-09 16:49 · Score: 0
  
  Wow, that picture of the video demo of MS Longhorn makes KDE look pretty weak.
I'm using it, and lovin' it. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 22:07 · Score: 1, Flamebait

Its so good, it kicks the shit out of Windows, Thrashes OSX and obliterates Gnome. I predict Gnome is going to lose market share in droves when the Final version of KDE 3.2 comes out.

First of all, the GUI has been made so much more consistent, simplified and cleaned up, but WITHOUT removing features and hiding them in a registry editor like gnome did. I can still have all my favourite features with click and point configuaration, yet they don't get in the way.

Secondly, it has some of the best eye candy I ever seen. The new Crystal SVG theme has been radically redesigned and updates for a new level of design. The KDE artwork package contains a whole load of good stuff. I'm using the Plastik window border, the Galaxy style and crytal icons and its just perfect.

Its also VERY fast. I have an Athlon XP 2000+ with 768 MB of ram and it is flicker free, programs launch almost instanly. Even big monoliths like OpenOffice.org launch in just 3 seconds. Compile with

export CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -mcpu=athlon-xp"

to get even more crazy speed.

L10N and I18N have been improved too. I live in the United Kingdom, and KDE adjusts to my local needs, For example the weather applet display, clock applet, printer settings etc, Gnome FORCES me to use a US style date format on its clock Applet.

Finally, the BEST feature about KDE 3.2 is the new KwinIII, which is one of the best Window Managers ever made. It has lots of themes, lots of cool features (Features is a swear word to the metacity developers) such as mouse wheeling, horizontal and vertical only maximization for windows and the abillity to create Borderless windows (Just perfect for stuff like mplayer and the gimp).

In conclusion, KDE 3.2 is the BEST desktop ever made, and I never want to use gNOme, CrapOS X or Windoze XP ever again (not even expose can save CrapOS X from its firey fate.)

Before the Gnome fan boys come out, yes I did try Gnome 2.5, and it still can come nowhere near KDE 2.2 (which is still used a lot by stable distros such as Debian, Lycoris and Xandros). It looked like someone took the best of Windows 95, and the Worst of OSX and combined them with a hint of CDE. I felt physically ill when I seen a "Computer" icon on the desktop, it was such an obvious clone of "My Computer". Until the Gnome developers realize the the "HIG" is a farce and destroy gconf-editor and force developers to make ALL options avalible from the GUI and bring metacity up to 2003-era Window Mangement standards then KDE will thrash it.
1. Re:I'm using it, and lovin' it. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-08 22:58 · Score: 0
  
  Does it cook coffee and mow your lawn, too ?
2. Re:I'm using it, and lovin' it. by Anonymous Coward · 2003-12-09 03:03 · Score: 0
  
  Does it cook coffee and mow your lawn, too ?
  
  No, but your Mom does.
3. Re:I'm using it, and lovin' it. by kwench · 2003-12-09 03:23 · Score: 1
  
  If you want coffee, you have the choice between:
  
  kde-koffee-3.2-beta1.i586.mdk.rpm
  
  or the Linux Coffee HOWTO
  
  You pays your money, you takes your choice...
4. Re:I'm using it, and lovin' it. by dash2 · 2003-12-11 04:27 · Score: 1
  
  If people who are hooked on "feature crack", and don't care about usability think that KDE is the best desktop, then I predict that Gnome will win in the serious corporate desktop market, with KDE becoming a desktop for enthusiasts - kind of Enlightenment mark II.
5. Re:I'm using it, and lovin' it. by Ed+Avis · 2003-12-12 00:53 · Score: 1
  
  What has OpenOffice startup speed got to do with KDE?
  
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"Gideon" by vogon+jeltz · 2003-12-09 06:27 · Score: 1

Shouldn't that be "Kideon"?
*ducks* and runs ....
Kde3.2 speed by throwaway18 · 2003-12-15 12:42 · Score: 1

Is this significantly faster then kde 3.0?

I loaned a box set of SuSe to a couple of friends to try on old machines (around 300MHz). They both decided they don't like linux because it is too slow based on their experiances of kde3.0

A 300MHz machine is a usable surfing/wordprocessing machine. It is very disapointing that KDE makes such a machine annoying to use.