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Rockstar Censors GTA After Haitian Outcry

Thanks to VE3D for carrying a statement from Take Two/Rockstar announcing the removal of alleged anti-Haitian content from future copies of Grand Theft Auto:Vice City, after a furore which started last month following a CBS TV segment on the game. The controversy, which even had New York's Mayor Bloomberg weighing in on the game's rival gang-related urgings to "Kill all the Haitians", has ended with Rockstar's press release indicating: "We believe that recent media coverage has taken certain statements made in the game out of context... nevertheless, we are aware of the hurt and anger in the Haitian community... we will remove the objectionable statements from future copies of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City."

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  1. Haitians??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about the Orcs? Nobody ever backs the Orcs. They get dissed in more games than anyone. How many other enemies explode on eye contact?

  2. A moment, please... by ex_ottoyuhr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is getting just ludicrous. So not only is Manhunt not Adults Only, there's also no appreciable outcry about it, and the Rockstar game being censored is getting censored for a quote that sounds racist out of context, as opposed to being censored for, say, sodomizing a gang member with a crowbar. U.S. society is collectively insane. I'm not sure what variety of insanity (although I'd speculate a diagnosis of disorganized schizophrenia), but still... This is all getting disgusting.

    1. Re:A moment, please... by KronicD · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know, its absolutely sickening the way this censoring of absolutely everything is going at the moment, what is the problem of a fictional script mentioning a certain group of people? There doesn't seem to be ANYTHING really offensive in the context that quote was in, and the context is definitely important.

      Our freedoms are constantly being crushed, and this isn't one of those "freedom of speech says that, i should be able to run a hate group" things.

      Next thing you know there will be a law confirming that if a member of a certain race is killed in a game/TV show/movie/audio recording or anything of that sort a equal number of people of other races must also be killed in the same manner.

      The creativity of people is being destroyed by this, no longer can we safely spawn anything as we envision it in our minds without facing the threat of legal action from simple minded people with very little base for legitimate complaint.

      Ok, for a moment if I were to take the same stand that these people are taking. I am of Anglo-Saxon origin, I find it offensive to see a white person killed or targeted in any segment of the media, I DEMAND that this sort of thing be stopped immediately.

      Why can't this sort of thing be applied to the Anglo-Saxon race?

      Don't people see that this sort of action is PROMOTING racism?

      End Rant.

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    2. Re:A moment, please... by seraph93 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Don't people see that this sort of action is PROMOTING racism?

      They don't. Most people take the opposite view: that enforcing artificial distinctions between ethnic groups will somehow bring these groups together instead of keeping them separated. It's okay to use this word to describe these people, but not to use this other word to describe these other people; it's okay to run over or gun down people in a video game, but not if they're of this background; this TV show should appeal to people of this ethnicity, whereas this other TV show is for the other folks; and don't you dare offer any fried chicken to that guy over there, he'll get offended!

      We don't have separate drinking fountains anymore, and only the handicapped and the elderly have seats reserved at the front of the bus. But we have separate television shows, separate music styles, separate styles of clothing, separate vocabularies, and now separate mission objectives in Grand Theft Auto. Segregation never went away; it just got sneakier. The rifts between the races have become more semantic and less physical, but that doesn't mean that they've not there. And now they're being pushed under the label of "Political Correctness".

      You better watch what you say, and especially who you say it to. Don't you dare look at someone else and think, "Oh, another human being." You'd better make sure you categorize that person properly first, and think of the differences between you, long before you think of the common heritage that we all share as human beings.

      After all, you wouldn't want to offend anyone.

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  3. Remember kids.. by Stray7Xi · · Score: 5, Funny
    Don't kill haitians.. thats racist
    Kill cops.. thats politically correct

    /sarcasm off
    Wasn't the point of the game to be crude and offensive?? That's what makes it fun. If they're going to censor themselves they have a lot of work ahead of them

  4. Unbelieveable... by este · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would understand if Haitians were the only ethnic group singled out for mindless killing, but honestly....at a point in the game, you actually -work- for the Haitians, specifically for the purpose of killing the rival Cubans. At other points in the game, you kill Italians, French, Colombians, hell, I think I even killed some seagulls. If one took killing people out (and don't whine about ethnicity - in case it's not obvious, -everyone- is part of some ethnicity), you'd have.....nothing. And if you have a problem with killing in general........ DON'T BUY THE FSCKING GAME!!!!! I swear, we need to hold a telethon for these people......

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  5. in other news.. by TomSawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sales of Vice City spike up as the last few geeks who live under rocks crawl out to purchase a pre-censored copy.

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  6. They Shouldn't Have Caved In by illuminata · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't believe that they should sensor themselves just because certain people become offended. But, if Rockstar and Take Two truly believed that it is their right to keep a sense of realism in their game, then they shouldn't have removed the content at all. They're already getting enough bad press from the game, which has helped its popularity anyways.

    Most importantly, because Rockstar and Take Two are censoring themselves in this manner, they have severely hurt the argument that video games are an artform. It's going to be much harder to have video games gain the same amount of artistic respect that movies and music have to the general public. Special interest groups will have a much easier time getting other companies to follow suit and self-censor as well, because now they can say "Rockstar and Take Two did it, why won't you?"

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    1. Re:They Shouldn't Have Caved In by illuminata · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's not lump every corporation into being in it solely for sales and profit. Of course, sales and profit are considerations because the people running the company would like to stay in business and live comfortably. However, many companies make their money because they don't censor themselves and stay true to their artform. Governments and individuals also have good and bad motives. I challenge you or any other individual or group to make a game like GTA: Vice City without keeping sales and profit in mind.

      There's no need for a bleeding heart statement like the one that you made. There are companies out there that do what they do because they like it, not just for money.

      As for what you believe their rationale is, that could very well be the case. Yet, the Haitian population is fairly small in comparison to other groups. There could be a substantial amount of people who would sympathize if this issue gets enough attention. My guess is that their decision factored in loss of sales with bad publicity and the possibility of Mayor Bloomberg launching an investigation.

      They still shouldn't have censored the content, though.

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  7. It's not ludicrous by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's valuable pre-christmas publicity!

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    1. Re:It's not ludicrous by edwdig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't forget, if you buy it after Christmas, odds are you're getting the censored version. So if you weren't quite sure before, you better buy it now or you'll be stuck with a crappy version if you change your mind later!

  8. The PC Version... by Herkum01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They can replace the Haitians with elves and the cubans with reindeer. The main character will be Santa Claus and he only scores with Mrs. Claus, who happens to wear a bikini. Merry Christmas indeed! Or was that not the effect these people were looking for?

  9. Re:What about BF1942?! by Micro$will · · Score: 5, Funny

    With all the WW2 games out nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if thats what they'll replace the Haitians with in the censored version. Hell, if they did that, I'd buy the game again just so I could hear German ghetto talk.

    Ja sind jene Weinerschnitzel die Bombe!

    Oh yeah, a Mercedes S class with hydraulics would be better than those slow Voodoos.

  10. Re:surprised? by s0rbix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not all liberals are PC fascists. i am very liberal and make un-pc jokes all the time... i dont care so much when people are stereotpyed, and it doesnt bother me when a small group of people are offended over an out of context comment from a video game.

  11. A Small "Victory"... by Monthenor · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...but we still get to kill Cubans, right? Their lobby must not be as televised^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H powerful.

    Seriously, though, we should really be more concerned about the rampant genocide already present in gaming culture.

    One last thing: why is the "strike" tag not supported? I can't be the only one sick of seeing ^Hs.

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  12. Re: Or how about this.. by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Brits call themselves brits, Scots call themselves Scots so those two are probably self explanatory.

    It probably doesn't help if you've been at war with someone in reasonably recent history as the abbreviated names tend to have retained their pejorative edge.

    It also has to be said that I don't think I've ever heard "nip", "chink" or "paki" said without a degree of ill-feeling behind it (GWB's "pakis" statement being the exception).

    It's not terribly unreasonable to accept that some shortened names have gathered a negative meaning while some haven't. Language evolves like that.

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  13. Re:What about BF1942?! by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Funny


    There was an _awesome_ scene in Medal of Honor, in the level where you infiltrate the German submarine pen in Norway. Dressed as a kraut officer, you walk past two troopers having a chat in perfectly accented idiomatic German; something utterly hilarious, to the extent of "I don't know why the Norwegians are all so mad at us, we just want to bring their chicks back to Germany to breed the master race."

    I'm a native German speaker, and I think I would have noticed any trace of an accent there, so I can only assume that they used real Germans to record the voiceovers. Frankly, I can't imagine a German voice actor not pissing himself laughing when asked to read something like that out loud."

    The BF1942 clips are actually pretty funny--I like the Italians best--it all sounds romantic and beautiful (Va fa'in culo! I have a headwound! Mamma mia, I love you!)

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