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Lindows Ordered To Stop Using Lindows Name

TheSpoom writes "InfoWorld reports that Lindows, a distribution of Linux and other software designed to emulate Windows, has been ordered to drop their name after Microsoft won a preliminary injunction yesterday from judges in Finland and Sweden."

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  1. Well... by AnnCoulterTroll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now will Wine have to change its name because of the Win part of its name?

    1. Re:Well... by poptones · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The point to focus on is not that one name is almost the same as some other corporate name, it's that one person in Finland or Sweden or Shitholistan thinks that they can change the behavior of millions of people. Then they believe that they have the authority to enforce this because they have some form of legal position in their own country.

      Like those arrogant, fundamentalist-endowed leaders in that other country (starts with a U, and it ain't Ukraine) who seem to think they have the right to do exactly this all over the world... and are presently doing it.

      This is like some fundamentalist judge in Iran ordering the entire alchool industry in the world to shut down because it is forbidden by the Koran, and actually being taken seriously in areas outside the range of his private army.

      Hmmm... like some other puritanical government teetering on the edge of tyranny, bullying sovereign governments all over the world into conducting raids and arresting their own citizens even when their own local laws allow their citizens the exact behavior they are being persecuted for...

  2. Wrong impression by dew-genen-ny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lindows as a name gives the wrong impression about where linux wants to be anyway.

    They should concentrate on marketing their product as a decent OS and not a cheap and inferior copy of windows.

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  3. Quite Correct by racer7890 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This ruling is quite correct. I am no Microsoft fan but the Lindows name was clearly intended to play off the Windows name. It is my theory that Lindows purposefully chose this name to get the publicity it is getting now. Other attacks at Microsoft (such as the Lindows offer for Californian residents based on the anti-trust settlement) play into this.

  4. comprehensible? by colinleroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that Microsoft has a hard time winning this in the US may be due to the fact that in this english-speaking country, "windows" is a common word meaning "openable thing made out of glass". In Finland and Sweden, this is not the case. Maybe this explains this injunction?

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  5. Re:Doesn't stop them by Talthane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're looking at it the wrong way round. Which could Microsoft lose more from, being deprived of licences in Europe or deprived of licences in the US?

    Current population of the US = 270m-ish. Current population of Europe = 730m. And Europe has a relatively low rate of piracy.

    Factor in that the EU has shown (in the Windows Media Player case) that it's quite prepared to crack down hard on MS - in contrast to the US government - and it's no surprise that Microsoft is more concerned about European investments than American ones right now, and doing whatever it can to attack competitors' interests.

    No, the sky isn't falling, but if you think that events in Europe can't affect those in America and it can't possibly affect you what Microsoft does over here, I suggest you talk to those people who narrowly avoided having their businesses crushed by a massive trade war over steel tariffs the other week.

    Not to sound too nationalistic, but Europe is much bigger than the US - it's just more disorganised, and hamstrung by the French. ;-)

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  6. Protection against blatant clones by photonic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although in hate Microsoft like the rest of you, I do believe they have a point: Lindows is an obvious reference to the similar product Windows.

    Take a for example a look at the products of Sanex, and the blatant clone Sanicur (same sounding name, same colour scheme).

    I would guess that Sanex would be more than happy to sue the other company into oblivion, but they are apparently not able to do so.

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  7. Re:In Other News... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't agree with the decision but clearly you can see the difference between an Operating System and a car. It is a lot harder to tell the difference between one operating system and another especially when one is specifically designed to mimic the other. It is pretty obvious that Lindows intentionally named their product for just this sort of attention. It is not all that clever or catchy of a name by itself.

  8. Donate money to help!!! by t0ny · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Just to help this case and assure the party in the right succeeds, Im going to suggest to my boss that we buy three more Windows servers.

    Lindows.com Chief Executive Officer Michael Robertson in a statement issued in response to the Swedish injunction, lashed out against Microsoft's legal pursuit of his company, accusing Microsoft of using lawsuits "as a battering ram to smash Linux."

    Anyone who says that the name "Lindows" doesnt violate the trademark of "Windows" is a real hypocrite. If MS came out with a program called Winix, you guys would be going apeshit.

    Even funnier is this Robertson idiot making this case out to be some kind of assult on Linux, rather than an attempt to get him to rename product.

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    1. Re:Donate money to help!!! by avdp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I doubt anyone would care about something called Winix, but you're missing the point anyway. Believe it or not (and regarless of what Robertson claims) this is not really a Linux vs Microsoft fight.

      The problem with "Windows" as a trademark is that it's a generic term. Microsoft should not have an exclusive rights to the word "Windows". Even in software "Windows" is a generic term used in every graphical operating system. That was the basis of the (so far successful) defense in the US.

      Now, if Robertson was trying to sell something named "MSLindows", then I think Microsoft would have a claim that I would understand/defend/support.

    2. Re:Donate money to help!!! by avdp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not that hard to make up a trademark that does roll off the tongue and does not exist in the dictionary (yet): Google, Accenture, Verizon, Netscape, etc etc. But if you're unable to do that, that's fine you can combine a dictionary word with something else: PalmOS, PocketPC, T-Mobile - even MS-Windows is OK.

      But like another poster did a must better job at explaining than me, "Windows" is an especially bad offender considering that the word has a meaning in the computer industry, and that meaning predates MS-Windows. In fact, that has been the basis of Lindows' defense in the US. That defense has been successful so far in the various injunction hearings they've had on the case.

  9. European Legal System by pavera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time something bad happens tech-wise in a court in the US, this place is crazy with comment of how the US sucks, how horrid the legal system is here, how its just stupid what companies can get away with in court, now a stupid ruling is handed down in a European court and everyone is mum... no one seems upset at the legal system, in fact most people here are defending the decision as a good one, even though when MS tried this stunt in the US system they failed. So much for the Europeans living up to their liberal ideals and standing up for the little guy....

  10. Re:In Other News... by RazzleFrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry. You're wrong (and not insightful). It is quite within their ability to trademark a common word. After all - Ford is a common word. So is Apple and Dell. Microsoft's actual trademark is for "Windows" and is serial number 74090419 for: "computer programs and manuals sold as a unit; namely, graphical operating environment programs for microcomputers."

    They also own about 9 other active trademarks all on the word Windows relating to other areas.

  11. Re:In Other News... by MartianC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm just plain against trademarks like this, nobody should be able to trademark a dictionary word, or any widely used short phrase (or at least the trademark should define very clear contexts of use). Whose language do they think it is anyway, you can't (or rather it seems they can...) claim bits of it. Very annoying.. If these corporate nazis were only prevented from hunting down and suing people for the most pathetic and derivative of reasons the world would be a better place.

  12. Re:In Other News... by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do see the distinction you, and the law make on this. But on the other hand, I also maintain that a person would have to be either very gullible, or very stupid to have any more likelihood of mistaking the two explorers and windows/lindows. I'm by no means an expert on watches, but if someone offered to sell me a Bolex watch I don't think I'd have much of a problem figuring out what was wrong with the situation.

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