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Pigeons Faster than Internet

An anonymous reader writes "The topic of pigeons and modern technology has come up a number of times now. For instance, we have the Google pigeon rank method, and there have been several April fools hoaxes like this previous story and RFC 2549. Now the Waikato Times is reporting in this story about how pigeons are being used to transfer large amounts of data in a short amount of time. The pigeons have proven to be faster and more relieable than electronic means. However, as you will see from the story there is still the occasional packet loss. This is definitely a case of high bandwidth wireless networking."

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  1. Rimshot by tcopeland · · Score: 4, Funny

    [...] the pigeons were 99 per cent reliable, Mr Andreef said. "They also work for peanuts."
    Heh.
    1. Re:Rimshot by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also note, you should make sure the firewall outside your pidgeon coop can see color, as you don't want any of those evil bit containing pidgeons through the door or you may be forced to restart the data transfer as your data packets are scrambled and pooped out in little piles.

      Nore, typically the evil bit comes in the form of a red tail, talons, and a hooked beak. Occasionally it comes on all fours, with a red furry coat, fluffy tail and black tips on it's ears.

  2. So by Pingular · · Score: 5, Funny

    Increasing bandwidth would be cheap enough. Either by more birds or bigger birds. Kind of like servers :)

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  3. Mental imagery by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just reading the slashdot blurb, I get the image of a pigeon with a couple of DVD data discs tied to it's feet, and the resulting attempt to fly is quite comical...

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    1. Re:Mental imagery by loucura! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are suggesting that DVDs migrate?

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  4. Yeah... by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Funny

    *writes note saying "ping" and ties to to a pigeon*

    This is going to take awhile...

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  5. Still true by msgmonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway"

    1. Re:Still true by inburito · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or, "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a flock of pigeons with blue-laser dvds strapped on to their feet flying on the sky."

  6. Hmmm by mandalayx · · Score: 5, Funny

    The concept had just hit a snag however.

    Nesting karearea (native falcons) have attacked and killed some of the pigeons mid-flight.

    "A pigeon can fly at a cruising speed of 65km/h, 100km/h when pushed," said Mr Andreef. "But native falcons fly at up to 250km/h."

    Once he discovered what was happening to his birds Mr Andreef grounded his 50-pigeon operation.

    He expected the falcons' nesting season to finish within the next few weeks.


    The pigeon communicators better get ready to welcome their new overlords--the Falcons. Can you see the DDoS attacks coming?

  7. Games by fredrikj · · Score: 5, Funny

    I tried playing Quake III over this, but the ping time made it rather frustrating :|

    1. Re:Games by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now we know the real reason "Duke Nukem Forever: Rats of the Air" was delayed.

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  8. so.... by xao+gypsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    does packet colision occur when the pigeon hole principle comes into effect?

    xao

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  9. Pigeons Dropping Packets by fastdecade · · Score: 5, Funny

    "the pigeons were 99 per cent reliable"

    The thought of pigeons transferring data gives a whole new meaning to dropping packets.

    I speculate they would become only 60% reliable when flying over statues, park benches, and human beings.

  10. How about .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... swallows ?

    (European or otherwise).

  11. cartoon throwback by segment · · Score: 4, Funny

    Muttley you snickering floppy eared hound, When courage is needed, you're never around! Those medals you wear on your moth-eaten chest, Should be there for bungling at which you are best!

    So, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop that Pigeon

    How?

    Nab him! Jab him! Tab him! Grab him!

    Stop that pigeon

    Now!

    You Zilly, stop sneaking it's not worth the chance, For you'll be returned by the seat of your pants! And Klunk, you invent me a thingamybob, That catches that pigeon, or I lose my job!

    So, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon, Stop The Pigeon

    Stop that Pigeon

    How?

    Nab him! Jab him! Tab him! Grab him!

    Stop that pigeon Now!

    The mp3

  12. Imagine.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    50,000 pigeons with a note saying "SYN" tied to them flying to Utah..

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    1. Re:Imagine.. by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the resulting reply, as 50,000 pigeons drop down to the ground, going "ACK" after getting shot....

  13. On "Packet" Loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nesting karearea (native falcons) have attacked and killed some of the pigeons mid-flight.

    Puts TTL into perspective...

  14. Time for an upgrade by Stalus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A pigeon can fly at a cruising speed of 65km/h, 100km/h when pushed," said Mr Andreef. "But native falcons fly at up to 250km/h."

    Looks like a perfect opportunity for an upgrade. They just have to train the falcons, and then they'll get a network that's 2.5 times faster, and less likely to be devoured.

  15. Packet loss= by vwjeff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shotgun

  16. s/swallow/pigeon/ (was Re:Mental imagery) by BabyDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    SOLDIER #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two pigeons carried it together?
    SOLDIER #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line.
    SOLDIER #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of creeper!
    SOLDIER #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
    SOLDIER #2: Well, why not?

  17. exploit! by Coyote · · Score: 5, Funny

    birdtraq has a posting documenting the 'falcon exploit' describing it as a DOS (denial of seed) attack similar to the 'buckshot' attack, in that not only is the route broken, but the media is eaten. It is noted that even though the carrier may seasonally be reclassified as 'lunch' the data payload may be considered unappetizing and therefore recoverable. Affected users may attempt the alternate SSL (Slow Sparrow Layer) method in hopes of being overlooked. The vulnerability affects owl users of Linux and Windows. In a related story, SCO claims that since it has proved in court that it owns all code ever written, it will be selling licenses on a per egg basis to existing pigeon owners as soon as the massive hummingbird attack on its own server ends.

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  18. if it were swallows instead... by mraymer · · Score: 5, Funny

    SOLDIER #1: Where'd you get the data?
    ARTHUR: We found it.
    SOLDIER #1: Found it? In here? That's impossble!
    ARTHUR: What do you mean?
    SOLDIER #1: Well, there's no Internet access for miles.
    ARTHUR: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
    SOLDIER #1: Are you suggesting data migrates?
    ARTHUR: Not at all. It could be carried.
    SOLDIER #1: What? A swallow carrying a case DVDs?
    ARTHUR: It could grip it by the edge!
    SOLDIER #1: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound DVD case.
    ARTHUR: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
    SOLDIER #1: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
    ARTHUR: Please!
    SOLDIER #1: Am I right?
    ARTHUR: I'm not interested!
    SOLDIER #2: It could be carried by an African swallow!
    SOLDIER #1: Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow. That's my point.
    SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
    ARTHUR: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
    SOLDIER #1: But then of course a-- African swallows are non-migratory.
    SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah.
    SOLDIER #1: So, they couldn't bring the DVDs back anyway.
    SOLDIER #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?
    SOLDIER #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line.
    SOLDIER #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of creeper!
    SOLDIER #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
    SOLDIER #2: Well, why not?

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  19. I can imagine... by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...a DDoS attack over this looking like a scence out of Hitchcock's The Birds...

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  20. pong by Peridriga · · Score: 5, Funny

    pong **** CARRIER LOST

    wow.... That phrase has a great deal more irony now.

  21. Next up: pigeon network h4xx0rz by thirty2bit · · Score: 4, Funny

    New York Times: Youth Arrested for Pigeon Tampering

    [ name withheld ] was arrested for using an illeagle Pigeon Network Sniffer and accessing huge amounts of data being shuttled by the pigeon network over the last two weeks.

    Police say the h4xx0r sat in Central Park, using large amounts of high-quality seed strewn on open ground to re-route the network data stream and hijack the transfer media. The pigeon data was then compromised and copied to the thief's laptop.

    Authories say that pigeon network customers became suspicious when network latency increased.

  22. Re:Faster than the internet? by Trbmxfz · · Score: 3, Funny

    six minues (600 seconds)

    Sorry, I didn't know they used the metric system for minutes too! In the US of A, six minutes are only 360 seconds :-).

    if you read the article rather than skimmed

    Since their figures don't seem to be consistent, I had to discard some of them; 20km at 65kph should take about 18 minutes, not 6. Otherwise, you're of course right: they wouldn't do it if it weren't cheaper than the actual network connection they can get.

  23. P....., not Pigeons have the bandwidth! by karlandtanya · · Score: 5, Funny

    Penises have higher bandwidth than cable modems. [The following found, of course, on the Internet.]

    The human genome is about 3,120,000,000 base pairs long, so half of that is in each spermatozoa -- 1,560,000,000 base pairs . Each side of these base pairs can either be an adenine -thymine or a guanine -cytosine bond, and they can be aligned either direction, so there are four choices. Four possibilities for a value means it can be fully represented with two bits; 00 = guanine, 01 = cytosine, and so forth.

    The figures that I've read state the number of sperm in a human ejaculation to be anywhere from 50 to 500 million. I'm going to go with the number 200,000,000 sperm cells , but if anyone knows differently, please tell me.

    Putting these together, the average amount of information per ejaculation is 1.560*10^ 9* 2 bits * 2.00*10^ 8, which comes out to be 6.24*10 ^17 bits. That's about 78,000 terabytes of data! As a basis of comparison, were the entire text content of the Library of Congress to be scanned and stored, it would only take up about 20 terabytes. If you figure that a male orgasm lasts five seconds , you get a transmission rate of 15,600 tb/s . In comparison, an OC-96 line (like the ones that make up much of the backbone of the internet ) can move .005 tb/s. Cable modems generally transmit somewhere around 1/5000th of that .

    If you consider signal to noise , though, the figures come out much differently. If only the single sperm cell that fertilizes the egg counts as signal , you get (1.560*10^ 9* 2 bits) / 5 s = 6.24*10^ 8bits/s, or somewhere in the neighborhood of 78 Mb/s . Still a great deal more bandwidth than your average cable modem.

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  24. RFC 2549 security update by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Funny

    RFC 2549 needs a security extension to address man (falcon) in the middle insecurity. I propose encoding multiple packets per UDP-style transmission. The Waitomo network lab can report on the "fodder multiplier" necessary to ensure that network noise consumes only superflous redundant packets. A received ACK packet (similarly multiplied) can be flown back to confirm transmission.

    Perhaps a honeypot project can be used to capture attacker packets, baited with pigeons^Wpackets with a low TTL. Once recoded, these "black hat" falcons^Wpackets might be retrained for security enhancement, or experiments with a lower-latency protocol.

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  25. [E] Pythonesque by Gorimek · · Score: 3, Funny

    There has to be a good swallow joke to be made from it too. If you know what I mean.