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CRIA Prepares To Sue P2P Copyright Violators

ergo98 writes "The Canadian version of the RIAA, the CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association), has begun laying the PR groundwork for an initiative similar to that pursued by the RIAA in the US - threatening to file lawsuits against individual file sharers (specifically uploaders). They claim that CD sales have dropped by 23 per cent since 1999, attributing that drop to P2P, and apparently it isn't enough that the Canadian music industry gets a hefty presume-you-are-a-criminal levy attached on various devices and media." Many readers also point to the Globe and Mail's version of the story. dsanfte writes "They will apparently only be targetting uploaders, because in the Copyright Board's judgement, P2P downloading is legal under Canadian law."

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  1. That's it, I'm moving to Canada! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Er, wait, they are doing something I *don't* like this time? That's hardly fair.

  2. Quick Primer by SirSlud · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Canada, it is legal to borrow content (a CD, movie, etc) from a friend (or stranger), and copy it for your own personal use.

    It is not legal to MAKE copies of content you own, and distribute it to friends (or strangers).

    This is why downloading is legal (you're 'borrowing' a copy, and copying it), but uploading is illegal (you're copying what you presumably own, and distributing it.)

    We pay additional taxes on media to support this system. I think its just gone up again, with MP3 players now being taxed as they represent blank media on which you might copy somebody else's content.

    This is my udnerstanding of our system. Corrections are invited.

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    1. Re:Quick Primer by atommoore · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe you interpreted the ruling perfectly.

      "On March 19, 1998, Part VIII of the (Canadian) Copyright Act dealing with private copying came into force. Until that time, copying any sound recording for almost any purpose infringed copyright, although, in practice, the prohibition was largely unenforceable. The amendment to the Act legalized copying of sound recordings of musical works onto audio recording media for the private use of the person who makes the copy (referred to as "private copying"). In addition, the amendment made provision for the imposition of a levy on blank audio recording media to compensate authors, performers and makers who own copyright in eligible sound recordings being copied for private use."

      -- Copyright Board of Canada: Fact Sheet: Private Copying 1999-2000 Decision

      Seems like sealand will be the one place to upload anything sooner or later.

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  3. Stay out of trouble by downloading legal music by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From Links to Tens of Thousands of Legal Music Downloads:

    You don't need to worry about getting sued by the Recording Industry Assocation of America or arrested by the FBI if you download legal music. Many independent and unsigned musicians offer downloads of their music in hopes of attracting more fans. Here's some music from my friends The Divine Maggees, Oliver Brown and Rick Walker's Loop.pooL.

    If everyone started downloading legal music instead of violating copyright with the file sharing programs, we would make short work of the RIAA, because people would start buying CDs directly from the artists and seeing their shows instead of enriching the major labels by buying CDs from the bands the labels have chosen for us to listen to. The RIAA would also have no cause to complain - these music downloads do not infringe copyright because the artists give you permission to download them.

    Besides giving you lots of links to legal downloads, the article goes on to discuss how you can change the law to make p2p filesharing of proprietary files legal. I think that could happen if I could get all sixty million US file traders to read the article in time for the November 2004 elections. So far the article is getting read by about 500 people a day, but it needs to be read a couple of orders of magnitude more often between now and November if it's going to effect the election. Please read What You Can Do To Help.

    Please copy and distribute this article. It has a Creative Commons license.

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  4. Should taxpayers pay for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When my car is stolen, when my house is broken into the police says "sorry, no resources" to catch them...
    Should taxpayers really pay police, FBI, etc. for playing collection agent for the RIA?

  5. Recording Industry vs. World - round 2. Ready, ste by grmb1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    BTW, in Russia downloading music is too expensive. Average home broadband bandwidth is around 0.1$/MB. However pirated CDs full of MP3s cost about 2$ and are on sale everywhere - flea market, regular shops (govt. doesn't give a fuck). The choice of MP3s is amazing - rarities, bootlegs, full discographies, etc....

    So, USA people, welcome to Russia!

    Hmm...could be a good idea for business... "Fuck RIAA, buy our exclusive 'Russia CD-Tour'.".

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  6. Fair enough... by rokzy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...IF THEY GET RID OF THE LEVY

    I thought the justification for the levy was to legitimise downloading mp3s? If they now want to get rid of that "service", where's the justification for the levy? Maybe they're trying to pull another scam like when CDs were new;

    1980s
    1. raise prices because of set-up costs
    2. forget to lower after making money back
    3. profit

    2000s
    1. raise prices because of mp3 traders
    2. forget to lower after putting traders in jail
    3. profit

  7. Re:Hmm... by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 5, Funny
    >> Pretty much all pop distributed in the states is distributed here too.

    I'm sorry. I didn't know you had it that bad up there.

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  8. Re:Difficulty by psychogentoo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    They don't have to prove anything. You get sued, then they ask if you want to settle out of court or go through a lengthy trial process.

    Its a lose-lose situation for the parties involved except for the lawyers and Celine Dion.

  9. Subpeonas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They won't be able to go after as many file swappers (per capita) as they have in the U.S. because Canadian law does not allow you to subpeona their ISPs without a warrant signed by a judge. We have no DMCA yet. Also, there is also no legal precedent a la RIAA vs Verizon to get the names of file swappers from ISPs.

    How does the Canadian RIAA plan to track down these uploaders without names, addresses and phone numbers from ISPs?

    Of course, once we sign on to the FTAA, we will be forced to ratify it and adopt the insane IP provisions of that "free trade" agreement, including jail terms for file swappers, making open source software outright illegal, and allowing corporations to copyright everything except 12 distinct processes (ex calendars). I'm really looking forward to the human genome being copyrighted and having to pay licensing fees for my very existance.

    I can't believe it! I'm *actually* planning on voting NDP in the next federal election, despite the fact that I'm a small "c" conservative. That would have been unthinkable for me as recently as two years ago. This fact that our government is whoreing us to virtually criminal organizations like the RIAA/MPAA and Microsoft makes me sick to my stomach.

  10. Re:yes.... by CrowScape · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually it's probably more due to competition from the DVD arena. When I spend money on entertainment, it's in the form of a couple DVDs that I can pick up for 17-23 USD, a much better bang-for-my-buck than even $13.50 for CDs. And no, I don't download mp3s. My DVD collection has fast outpaced my CD collection, and I wouldn't compare DVDs to VHS, as I rarely touched that God-awful format. For Christmas I used to have people asking for CDs, but as my friends and relatives started aquiring DVD players, they also started replacing their CD requests with DVD requests.

    Of course, this is all anecdotal

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  11. Re:yes.... by MikeXpop · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We tend to think of the 1970's as the decade of Dark Side of the Moon or The Long Run or (insert your favorite classic 70's album here), but there was a LOT of crap back then, too. We've just pushed it out of our memory. The recent huge drop in CD sales can't easily be attributed to music quality, as it's a constant.
    Ha! I laugh at you. The 70's did have a lot of crap, yes. But it also had more gold than Fort Knox. DSotM, London Calling, The Clash, Nevermind the Bullocks, Wish You Were Here, The Wall, Meddle, [Insert Led Zeppelin album here]. We have nothing like that now. Now it's both crap (Pop-drivel Green Day, Good Charlotte, Backstreet Boys) or just plain "good" (Radiohead, Tool). We have no exceptional bands. At least none that are being pimped by the RIAA.

    Disguise it all you want, music has declined.

    (Ready for the real shocker? I'm 16.)
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  12. Re:yes.... by dadragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because most of the time there's one good song per CD of 10-20 tracks. One song is not worth $15, so people download it.

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  13. Re:yes.... by mini+me · · Score: 5, Funny

    Impossible. They play it so often that by the time they quit playing it, you never want to hear it again.

  14. Re:yes.... by Saeger · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The complete laundry list of reasons why CD sales are dropping...

    1. People want online convenience, either from free p2p, or cheap iTunes, or other.
    2. People are conditioned to view p2p AS FREE LIKE RADIO, and think nothing of it - it's an advertisement for a concert and merchandise.
    3. A down economy.
    4. DVDs and Video Games are a much better value!
    5. People are done replacing their old LP/cassette collections.
    6. Quality of music has dropped thanks to the soulsucking megacorp cookiecutter and "independent" clearchannel promoters.
    7. Used CDs are easier to trade through ebay and the like.
    8. Independent artists are more accessible now.
    9. People are actively sticking it to the RIAA because they know how badly the artists are getting screwed.
    10. 192 people are protesting perpetual copyrights...
    11. ...unf.

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  15. Re:yes.... by thales · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are missing one thing that isn't a constant, yhe number of titles released. As the RIAA members merge into larger and larger companies they are releasing fewer and fewer titles each year.

    A CD that isn't released will sell ZERO copies

    The RIAA is pushing formula music and not releasing as many titles, and it's the bands that haven't made it big that are getting hit the hardest. Some of these bands could have been this years big run away hit, but they never got recorded because they didn't have the formula sound the RIAA is looking for.

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