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City Of Austin Migrating To OpenOffice.org

An anonymous reader writes "NewsForge.com has a story up this morning about the City of Austin and the results of their pilot program on OpenOffice.org. The bottom line is this: they have found that more than 80% of the city's 5K desktops can use OO.o instead of MS Office. Let the migrations begin!"

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  1. There's some history here... by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    ....sounds like Austin has a savvy fellow in the CIO spot.

  2. That makes sense... by emacnabber · · Score: 4, Informative

    IBM's Linux Technology Center is in Austin...

    1. Re:That makes sense... by jdgeorge · · Score: 4, Informative

      IBM's Linux Techology Center is spread throughout most of the major IBM sites worldwide, not just in Austin. However, probably more relevant is the fact that IBM is one of the largest private employers in Austin.

    2. Re:That makes sense... by IANAAC · · Score: 3, Informative

      The fact that Oracle's Austin office has switched everything over to Linux could have also played a part in it, considering there's probably some document exchange between the city and Oracle.

    3. Re:That makes sense... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      IBM's Linux Technology Center is in Austin...

      I would guess that people making these decisions in Austin are either influenced by, educated by, or former employees of the university.

      Actually, while good guesses, neither of the suggestions above is relevant. I'm a city employee, and I'm familiar with some of the decision making that went on. A couple of things occurred within the last 12+ months that caused this to occur. The first is an economy that tanked. The second was the promotion of a new CIO who is open minded when it comes to technology. There was also extreme disgruntlement (internally and externally) with the contract the city signed with Microsoft (see Joe Barr's Linuxworld articles). This is just a start, the city is also looking at using Linux.

  3. Re:why not 100%? by metallicagoaltender · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you had read the article...

    He also pointed out that not everyone can be converted just yet because of a single application (the City Council's Agenda Management System) requires MS Office to run.


    Certainly makes sense that they're going to need to solve that dependancy before they switch those people to OO.org...
  4. Not the same by glpierce · · Score: 3, Informative

    You obviously didn't read the article, however you also failed to consider something anyway. There are still things that OOo can't do that MS Office can. For example, I can't fully switch because I need the chart/graph capabilities that Excel has, but OOo doesn't. For Austin, it's a specific application. OOo is great for most people, but it's not a complete replacement just yet.

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  5. RTFA:This one application by SkArcher · · Score: 4, Informative
    He also pointed out that not everyone can be converted just yet because of a single application (the City Council's Agenda Management System) requires MS Office to run.
    Basically, people outside the City COuncils direct organisation use MS office proprietry format, so they can't make a complete switch because of the lock in effect.
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  6. The original email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From: Scott Brown
    Subject: [alg] Another Open Source win at the City
    Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:57:01 -0600
    To: alg@austinlug.org

    I thought a few of you might be interested in this...

    We just concluded our first round of "official" Linux pilots, with one
    of those being an OpenOffice replacement of Microsoft Office. It turns
    out that the limited pilot we did (40 users) provided enough information
    to be able to start converting some departments and users over to OO
    from MS Office. First on the schedule is my department, Communications
    and Technology Management, which will be having MS Office *uninstalled*
    and OO installed in it's place on the majority of department desktops.
    That should be around 300 people (we can't get everyone off MS Office
    right now as we have one major application, the Agenda Management System
    for the City Council, that requires the MS programs).

    Training programs and help desk support is being put in place so it
    looks like OO will be there for the long-term. Our pilot figured out
    that about 80% of the users at the City could use OO instead of MS
    Office so, at the very least, the City will not be paying Redmond for
    anymore new licenses and at the very best, it will start converting
    those apps that require MS Office over to something that will work in
    the new OO environment.

    We're finishing up the documentation for the rest of the pilots so I'll
    keep ya'll posted...

    -s.

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  7. Re:Anyone know of OO has run into DMCA troubles? by ColourlessGreenIdeas · · Score: 5, Informative

    DMCA only bans defeating 'copy protection'. If there's some obfuscation in there that's claimed to be 'copy protection', then the DMCA applies. As it is, the format is totally obscure but that's just a concequence of bad design. As a result it's legal. You can't copyright file formats. You can patent them, but MS hasn't done that with current office formats.

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  8. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  9. And some tried Open went for MS Office. by deragon · · Score: 3, Informative
    And because of the infamous bug #1820, some conversions are aborted.

    See the comment of janderk at the end. Essentially, he tried to convert a Dutch school but because of this bug, he failed.

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  10. Re:Okay...Will this legitimize OO for other orgs? by arbour42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've tested Access 2000 under Linux using Codeweaver's CrossOver Office product - http://www.codeweavers.com/

    It works very well, and i have complicated vba code running - the reports previewed fine, queries good, forms, etc...

    you can download a version to do testing. Access was the only thing holding me back from moving to Linux - i use it all the time

    What i would love to see would be Corel open sourcing the Paradox db so it could be ported to Linux - that was a great platform...

  11. Re:80%? by Trelane · · Score: 3, Informative

    pivot tables == data pilot.

    learn it, love it. :)

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  12. Re:why, why, WHY by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Informative

    The actual name of the software is OpenOffice.org. The software is not, not, NOT named OpenOffice, or Open Office.

    The reason is because Open Office would conflict with the trademark of some Korean office suite.

    If more open source software projects would name themselves after their domain name, it would make it really easy for customers to know where to go for information. Imagine if Mozilla.org would do this.

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  13. Re:Okay...Will this legitimize OO for other orgs? by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    I work for a large company and we are quietly converting many of the Access databases here to a MySQL database + PHP web frontend.

    importing the data took us 10 minutes.

    someone barely familiar with PHP can write the frontend within 2 months. (I knew ZERO php before I started this project. 2 months later... I'm 90% finished and we extendedto server 4 offices instead of one.)

    There is no excuse to stick with Access based database. Even a visual Basic programmer can pick up PHP withing a day or two.

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