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Intel To Produce Cheap LCoS Chips

SeattleGameboy writes "NY Times has an article about Intel's plan to produce low-cost liquid crystal on silicon (LCoS) chips. This could result in high-resolution 7"-thick rear-projection TV costing around $1000 by next Christmas (not to mention cheap projectors). I guess I can put off buying a new TV for another year ..."

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  1. Google Link by pegr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obligatory reg-free Google link here.

  2. Google link for the tinfoil hat crowd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I told them not to post the raw link.

    Here you go.

  3. Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    December 17, 2003
    New Intel Chip for Digital TV Could Remake the Market
    By JOHN MARKOFF

    SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 16 - The Intel Corporation is planning to do to digital television what it has already done to computing.

    At the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, which opens on Jan. 8, Intel is expected to disclose the development of a class of advanced semiconductors that technologists and analysts say will improve the quality of large-screen digital televisions and substantially lower their price, according to industry executives close to the company.

    Intel's ability to integrate display, television receiver and computer electronics on a single piece of silicon is likely to open new markets for a class of products - including plasma, projection and L.C.D. TV's - that now sell for $3,000 to $10,000.

    Intel, as well as other large chip manufacturers, should be able to expand the benefits of Moore's Law, named for Gordon Moore, a founder of Intel, which accurately predicted decades ago that computer chips would continue to double in capacity roughly every 18 months, while their price would continue to fall.

    "I think this brings Moore's Law to digital television," said Richard Doherty, a consumer electronics industry analyst who is president of Envisioneering, a consulting firm based on Long Island. He predicted that the low-cost display technology, which can be incorporated into the traditional rear-projection television sets, could lead to lightweight 50-inch screens only 7 inches thick for about $1,000, perhaps as early as the 2004 holiday season.

    Intel's expected decision to enter the television market is another powerful indicator of the computer industry's assault on the consumer electronics industry.

    Both Gateway and Dell are already selling large-screen digital TV's made for them in Asia, and Hewlett-Packard has indicated it will also enter the market. Such a powerful marketing and technology combination could blend easily with Microsoft's media center software, which is aimed at using personal computing technology as the heart of home entertainment centers.

    The Intel announcement, which is expected to be made at the show by Paul S. Otellini, the company's president and chief operating officer, would come just as high-definition digital television is beginning to take off in the United States.

    A spokesman for Intel said the company would not comment on Mr. Otellini's presentation to the consumer electronics show.

    This year, the Consumer Electronics Association, the trade group for the industry, said it expected revenue from digital television sets to surpass revenue from conventional analog sets for the first time. In June, sales of digital sets were running 110 percent ahead of sales in the month a year earlier.

    The technology Intel has been exploring is known as liquid crystal on silicon. It is one of a number of competing technologies, including a novel approach pioneered by Texas Instruments called digital light processors, or D.L.P.

    The Texas Instruments approach involves a silicon chip that has hundreds of thousands of microscopic mirrors that can tilt to reflect light. So far, it has been limited to relatively expensive digital TV's.

    By contrast, the technology used by Intel employs vast arrays of tiny electronic shutters that can alter the amount of reflected light, an approach that may allow companies to make big-screen TV sets using rear-projection technology that matches or exceeds the quality of flat-panel TV's at a much lower cost than plasma and conventional L.C.D.

    Although Intel is not expected to enter the market for digital televisions for at least a year, Philips Electronics, the Dutch manufacturer, and several American start-up companies have already begun offering liquid crystal on silicon, or LCoS, components and televisions.

    "LCoS had a Phase 1 in the mid-1990's," said Sandeep Gupta, chief executive of the MicroDisplay Corporation, a chip maker in San Pablo, Calif., that ha

  4. NON KARMA WHORE LINK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Here is a link that is providedby an AC, not a karma whore.

    Please note trolls are starting to karma whore like this to get the +2 bonus and spread their defamity among us all. Do not support the karma whores.

  5. Re:"TrustedTV(tm) by ad0gg · · Score: 1, Informative
    mmm FUD...

    How does this have to article have to do with DRM? It mentions nothing about encoding of video signal just displaying it. TV still needs to get signal from some source(DVI or component inputs). So how exactly would DRM work, scramble the image on the display so you can't video tape it? DRM has to be farther up in the chain aka sattelite reciever,cable reciever, dvd. And all these output component or dvi.

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  6. Apples and Oranges by GrnyS · · Score: 3, Informative

    Isn't the HP MP3130 more than twice as expensive
    as the ~$1000 units based on this technology predicted by Doherty?

  7. LCoS is not as new as the article suggests by Zed2K · · Score: 3, Informative

    "several American start-up companies have already begun offering liquid crystal on silicon, or LCoS, components and televisions."

    Toshiba has had an LCoS TV out for quite awhile now. I believe Mitsubishi also has one out. They are super expensive though. Native 1080p resolution and really thin though.

  8. Re:Breakdown of the different HDTV technologies by Zed2K · · Score: 2, Informative

    LCoS doesn't have any burn-in problems. There was talk awhile ago about a type of "memory" problem that would fade but it wasn't a permanent burn in. I don't know if that was just a software problem or a hardware problem or if it even exists anymore.

    The biggest problem with the big tv's is burn in. That is permanent. Viewing angle is not that big of a deal these days. Accurate colors and dark blacks is a problem, but that can be solved by getting the box calibrated correctly.

  9. Re:I just read a book on this subject! tsarkon rea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Warning! Goatse link embedded above! (Nicely done, btw)

  10. Re:Breakdown of the different HDTV technologies by AnyNoMouse · · Score: 2, Informative
    DLP is nice, but a main issue with DLP is that you have to replace the bulbs every 3-4 years. Currently, bulbs for DLP units range anywhere from $300-600, which is no small investment. Of course, DLP is also a projection format, so the viewing angle is not as wide, and from what ones I've seen at the store, the blacks aren't quite as dark as the plasmas or traditional CRTs.

    There is a new TI chip on the market that greatly improves the contrast levels of DLP. Not quite as good as a really good CRT, but certainly acceptable.

    LCOS, like DLP, is not a direct view technology and instead reflect light from a light source (bulb). The amount of light needed for these types of displays means a fairly expensive bulb replacement every 1000 - 3000 hours depending on the type of bulb.

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  11. is LCoS for you by HogGeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read this to find out...

  12. Re:put off buying a new TV by Hepkat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actaully, better to buy now in that sense...
    The broadcast flag will have no effect on what is currently being made. It will only affect devices that are built to be affected

  13. Re:Breakdown of the different HDTV technologies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I don't know about other DLP's but my Samsung has an extremely wide viewing angle (but not vertically), has good black levels, is impossible to burn in, and the bulbs cost about $200, which is user serviceable.

  14. AC != not karma whore by MikeXpop · · Score: 2, Informative

    There have been a couple trolls around slashdot about slashcode that proves that anonymous cowards have karma forwarded to their UID. Basically, what this means is that if I post this anonymously, and it gets modded -1, Flamebait, then I get the negative karma over here at ~MikeXpop.

    Therefore, the above *could* be a troll getting good karma. Moderate at your own risk.

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  15. Re:Breakdown of the different HDTV technologies by swb · · Score: 3, Informative

    From what I've read on the AVS plasma forums, burn-in is pretty much a non-issue for typical television watching, especially if you watch 4:3 content in one of the 16:9 stretch/zoom modes the sets support. We have two plasmas in our conference room and they're used significantly with presentations (you know, long-winded marketers that have a logo in the bottom right the whole 3 hour meeting..), and they show no signs of burn in. My concern with plasma is longevity -- there are some concerns about how long a plasma display can last.

    Lamping is a serious technology problem for DLP, LCoS and LCD rear projections, and each technology has some particular issues unique to it, such as the DLP colorwheel and LCD reaction times.

    I personally expect direct-view plasma to become a more popular option, and a cheaper one. It has a very bright image, is thin, and does not require any lamping. I think in a couple of years 42" HD plasmas will be easily available for $2000 and ED models for even less.

    I personally bought a Sony LCD RP. Cheaper than plasma today, and I think a superior image to my eyes than DLP. There really aren't many LCoS sets on the market now, or at least few at a price point competitive with alternatives like LCD or DLP.

  16. Re:Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    and ugly as sin
    What is so special about the HP MP3130 that it warrants a +5 for listing the specs. 1024x768... 4x3 resolution.... Nothing impressive their... where is my 16x9 HDTV resolution.

    DLP == nice, but this unit is still only sporting 1 lens and everyone knows that only 1 lens will give you the infamous Rainbow effect that makes some people sick. Granted 3 lens DLP will hurt your bank account dearly.

    and you listed all these specs and left off the best aspect of this projector... 2000:1 contrast... and also left off the 2500-3000 dollar price tag.

    Where is the reason in the post that this projector is the one to match up against?!? From what I read about this one... it is just one of many with the same/similar specs.

  17. Rainbows with DLP and LCOS by adenied · · Score: 2, Informative
    One of the problems with both DLP and LCOS is that about 10% of people see rainbows when there are fast moving bright spots on the screen. If you can't see them, DLP and LCOS are pretty nice. But if you can see them (like me unfortunately) the experience is terrible.

    With DLP this has to do with the spinning color wheel that illuminates the DLP chip with the proper light color. I've read that if they could speed up the spinning by about 5x it wouldn't be noticeable. I guess the reason you see the rainbows is because the colors reach your eye at different times. Someone else can explain it better I'm sure.

    I was very excited about LCOS because there's no color wheel and the rainbow problems weren't supposed to be there. I was very disappointed when I went to look at Philips Cineos LCOS units however because I saw rainbows as well. Not as pronounced as DLP, but they were there. Not good.

    Luckily soon after that I came across Sony's Grand Wega LCD projection sets. These are beautiful and worth checking out if you want a TV now. I got the 50" one and am extremely happy with it.

    1. Re:Rainbows with DLP and LCOS by adenied · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually this is rear projection integrated into the set itself. So you can't really move it around very easily as it's all enclosed in the 50" set. It's pre-aligned so you don't have the problems that you get with CRT projection systems and convergence, etc.

      Here's a URL for the unit to give you an idea:

      http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfini ty /eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-S tart;sid=fdaB69U8K3-B6-rddAqL4JowWtzL32jBYYk=?Cate goryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_43to53TVs &ProductSKU=KF50WE610&Dept=tv

      Note that's an insane URL, so if it doesn't work, search for the model KF-50WE610.

      The only problem I've found with it, which I consider minor, is a small amount of screendooring on very bright white spots near the center of the screen. So when Gandalf returns as Gandalf the White and is glowing like mad you see a bit of it for instance. This is annoying, but bright whites like that rarely happen in movies and TV so it's not enough to make me want to return the set. The other 99.99% of the time it's amazing.

  18. Video windows? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

    LCDs use a passive, reflective backing behind the polarized crystals to produce an opaque display. How about a double layer, with a color LCD over a black LCD? Then we could have LCD windows with video displays, and controllable opacity. Like Tyrell's room in _Blade Runner_, but with movies playing on the inside.

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