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LinuxWorld Moving to Boston
DMCBOSTON writes " LinuxWorld will be at the Hynes Auditorium in Boston, moving from NY in 2005." I'll be doing a Slashdot BOF at what I guess will now be the last New York LinuxWorld at the end of January 2004. I'll be sad to see this show move, as I always enjoy NY immensely, and seek any excuse to go there. Boston is a whole different story ;)
On the other hand, would it be a good idea to rotate the show among a number of cities in the US and elsewhere?
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There's nothing wrong with Boston.
And there's 30% less city-juice per square mile.
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First MacWorld, now LinuxWorld? Is NY really that bad of a place?
ive never seen someone whine so much about a city. I think you forgot how good the ppl's hearts are in NY especially since 9-11. Remember the blackout a few months ago. Zero riots. Zero looting. Crime is down. I dont know what your talking about w/ the dirt, crime, rudeness. Guiliani finished his term and it was time for a new mayor. I think every police dept beats up minorities and drives drunk.
If Boston is the birthplace of the revolution, that means they all rioted. Doesnt it mean its the birthplace of crime then.
NYs got the Met, Guggenheim, MoMa, Bx Zoo, so its got culture too. Not to mention broadway, times square, and rockefeller.
Our subway is huge. It can bring u anywhere in the city.
NYC certainly doesnt have the best schools but Columbia and NYU arent exactly trash.
If youve ever been to the javitts center, where linux world is held, you'd know that its remote from the busy streets and your illusions of dirt and crime. You dont have to worry!
I dont even know why im arguing with you, I went to linuxworld 2002 and i thought it was BORING.
Parking is easier(believe it or not)
Yes, but in NYC, you don't need a car.
Boston drivers may be insane, but they're reasonably polite. NYC drivers are suicidal- and downright mean.
I've driven in both cities. There's really no difference. And, again, you don't need a car in NYC.
It's safer- crime's a fraction of NYC
Proof? Crime is in fact very low through most of NYC ('cept south Bronx). Last time I was in NYC, I stayed in a hotel in Harlem. Felt perfectly safe, even coming back to my hotel after midnight.
By the time Linuxworld gets here, the Big Dig will be totally done and traffic smooth- and you'll be able to get to Boston downtown from the airport in a matter of maybe 5-10 minutes, and out of the city in 15. Try that in NYC.
I'll give you this one. Then again, I hate Logan Airport. I'd much rather deal with Laguardia or JFK.
Boston/eastern MA is the birthplace of the revolution. 30 minutes out from Boston is Concord, MA- the first major battle in the revolution.
This has to do with... If you really want to push a patriotic angle, well, Statue of Liberty, WTC site. Also where the Federalist Papers were published, and the site of the first presidential innauguration.
Boston actually has charm. NYC has nothing but rudeness, dirt, crime, overpopulation...
Umm, you didn't go anywhere in NYC, did you? There are plenty of charming places: Little Italy, Chinatown, etc.
Where else can you take a tour that's half on land, half on water, SAME vehicle? Hmm?
Museum of Science. Museum of Fine Arts. New England Aquarium. Quincy Market. Fanuel Hall. Old Meetinghouse church.
MOMA, The Met, The Museum of Natural History, the Guggenheim, Central Park, St. Patrick's Cathedral, Empire State Building.
MIT. Harvard. Tufts. BC. BU. Northeastern. In fact, MA as a whole has more colleges than any other state- something like 220 total.
True.
Our subway costs HALF yours. The system may be dirty+unpredictable, but did I mention it costs half?
Like you said, it's dirty and unpredictable. You get what you pay for.
Our mayor doesn't suck. In fact, he gets re-elected. Imagine that. He also doesn't support a police department that beats up minorities and officers that get routinely arrested for drunk driving.
Umm, what? Giuliani wasn't voted out of office. He was inelligible to run because of term limits. Bloomberg hasn't been up for reelection, yet. And every police department beats up minorities. It's true in boston, NYC, and where I am currently (Dallas). It's also true of Cinncinnatti, LA, Philadelphia, and any other big city.
Fact of the matter is, I really like boston. My fiance and I will be either living there, NYC, or Austin (depends on where she goes to grad school). However, there is this insane inferiority complex that a lot of bostonians have with regard to new york. But, NYC isn't for everyone. you have to have a certain toughness and attitude. As my fave t-shirt says, "New York: where the weak are killed and eaten."
Oh, yeah: Red Sox suck. Go Yankees!
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Parking is easier when compared to Mahattan. There is more to NYC than just 1 borough.
I'm sorry, but I think Boston driving is worse than NYC driving, and I've done both. Perhaps this is a matter of opinion, but that is what I think. Also, the last time I drove there, there weren't any lane markers on half the roads...that's just silly! Oh, and to make traffic during rush hour faster they turn all the traffic lights to blinking red/orange lights and I got stuck on the wrong end of that light...
According to recent reports (about 1 week ago) NYC crime rate per population is the lowest of cities larger than 100,000 across the nation. In fact it's dropped over the past 2 years. I'm sorry, but now you're just making things up.
skipping down a few, because I don't feel like listing every historical site in NYC...Boston vs NYC rudeness is a matter of your opinion. I've actually found the people here to be very nice, if you attempt to try to talk to more than one person. Sure people are rude, but that's the case in Middletown USA as well.
Museums, you want me to list em? I guarantee you that there are more in NYC that in Boston.
NYC has the most efficient subway system in the country.
Our mayor doesn't suck either. What else are you supposed to do when you're deal the worst hand in poker? He's given a terrible situation with terrble deficits with businesses wanting to leave, and he's been able to tough it out and generate money for the city. He might not be able to win again, but he was able to do more with his situation, than most politicians would have been able to.
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Now, given your first statement "Ahhh, NYC snobbism", your's is worse because it's hypocritic. Pathetic. You should learn to do as your say before you expect others to.
Oh, and just to be a snob...when was the last time Boston won a World Series
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"Yes, but in NYC, you don't need a car."
Join the club, and maybe actually visit Boston before commenting on it. I've lived very comfortably in Boston for a while without a car. The T goes to pretty much anywhere in the city you need to go. The only time you need one is to take road trips, something you'd need a car for in NYC also.
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