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Mythic Sues Microsoft Over Mythica MMORPG
An anonymous reader writes "Mythic Entertainment, developers of PC MMO videogame Dark Age of Camelot, has filed suit against Microsoft, arguing that Microsoft's upcoming MMORPG Mythica is too similar in name and content (it 'also employs Norse images and mythology') to its own name and flagship title. Maybe if game developers could dream up a genre other than fantasy, problems like this would be averted..."
I couldn't help but to grin at this:
"We would expect Microsoft to react no differently if someone launched an operating system called Microsofta just as Microsoft did when confronted with an operating system called Lindows," Mythic President and Chief Executive Mark Jacobs said."
While I got a kick out of it at first, it sort of seems to validate Microsoft's lawsuit. It certainly is an amusing twist of irony, though.
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I hope Microsoft wins this lawsuit.
This is stupid. No other company can make a RPG that features Norse gods?? Its not like they were invented by that company.
... because when I first heard of it, I was immediately confused, because I didn't remember Mythic making any any MMO of the sort (I play DAoC).
But as far as the content, best of luck to them. DAoC was brilliant in that it didn't rely on some license for the core game (like Star Wars), but they also didn't just make something up out of the blue. Mythic took heavily from already-existing Norse mythology, Arthurian legends, Camelot, etc, and put it all together in a surprisingly good story. If somebody else does the same thing, what sort of legal leg do they have to stand on?
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I've given that quite a bit of thought... but realistically, what new genre could you devise that would be fun to play?
A Sci-Fi setting is about as close as you can get for that sort of gameplay... and that's stretching it. It's Fantasy-Sci-Fi at that point. As AO amply demonstrated, the whole Sci-Fi themed RPG on a computer doesn't work out so well, and ends up being pretty silly.
Fantasy is really the only theme you can have and be "believable," as far as believability in that sort of setting goes.
Once you move up technologically/time period wise, you have something completely different. Why, you ask? Simply because combat becomes something less personal (which personal is the whole focus of MMORPGs) and more destructive.
Any time period set in current day and the future has the potential to have weapons of mass destruction, making game play decidedly un-fun when a nuke comes in and wipes out your whole city without you being able to do anything about it. The fact is, medieval/fantasy is about the only realm you can safely have interactive person-to-person RPGs (note I said RPG, not FPS) and have them remain fun. That's simply because it's more of a drawn out conflict between people, whereas anything set in modern day or the future is a conflict between equipment and wars of attrition, not skill.
I dislike fantasy books, but love SF books. I would love to see a game based on SF... but the more I've thought about it, there's not one single SF themed multiplayer game that I think would be fun without borrowing heavily from fantasy. It's all about personal combat, in the end, and nothing caters to that like fantasy.
....Or perhaps Microsoft took the name from another fantasy game, Myth. Developed by wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft, Bungie, and also employing elements of norse mythology.
And didn't Microsoft buy Bungie? Seems Mythic doesn't have a tripod to stand on. Maybe Robert Graves, Edith Hamilton, and a few other authors should sue all us fantasy gamers for stealing their thunderbolts. Anyone remember when you had to name your game X&X (ala D&D) to sell your game at all (oh I guess that would be Dungeon or Adventure to the early video game crowd).
Isn't something that is "dreamed up" fantasy by definition?
We're always amused as The Next Big Game looms on the horizon.... Did you know that DAoC was going to kill EverQuest's role as the #1 MMORPG? No? Perhaps that's because you were waiting for Neverwinter Nights? Star Wars Galaxies? PlanetSide? Anarchy Online?
;-)
Perhaps you have not learned your lesson and are waiting for WoW?
It amazes me that each new game comes out and again misses the point. It's not the graphics (most long-term EQ players turn off all the bells and whistles they can); it's not the storyline (the EQ storyline reads like Christopher Tolkein on quayludes); it's not the marketing (when is the last time you saw an add for SWG, NWN or DAoc? Now what about EQ? I think EQ gets less press than the Slash engine
So what is it? It's the fact that the game is large enough and growing to absorb enough user-base that there is a community that has real staying power... somehow, THAT is what another game needs to replicate, and it emphasizes all of the things that most game companies do not want to spend money on... Perhaps Sigil will get it right. they did once before....
I used to play DAOC. I used to love DAOC. But a creator of new ideas DAOC is not.
Dark Age uses the most widespread, obvious and well-known cultural and mythological references for its game world.
We must remember that Mythic's case against Microsoft constitutes a claim of ownership over these themes.
For once Microsoft is right.
Mythic: you should have been more original if you wanted something protectable.
Verdict goes to the defendant.
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Heh, well, maybe back when almost nobody had a car, they could have trademarked it, and it wouldn't have mattered. IE it only became generic because nobody trademarked it.
Most of the world had not heard of "Windows" for computers before Microsoft used that term for their software, and probably before they even trademarked it. It's still not really considered generic because when you say "Windows" everyone knows you're talking about Microsoft Windows. (It's not like bandaid or frisbee)
But go ahead and keep living in your dream world where trademark law bends to your desires.
But Reality is public domain and some people have difficulty figuring out how to make money from it.
They've trademarked 'Ka' - which is almost just as bad.
The Mythic/Mythica argument is stupid. Mythic is a company with a Camelot-era game, Mythica is a Norse-era game. Should a company really get sued for putting out a game called ID, Valve, or Rock Star?
Oh no, they are using norse and Arthurian legend in a game? heaven forbid their be more than one game of that out there, next you'll be telling me that some company that puts out a world war 2 fps is gonna sue all the other companies that put out a ww2 fps.
jesus christ people, you didn't invent the legends, you based a game on them. Microsoft decided to do the same, for once in my life I am siding with microsoft.
That is it, from this day forth, let it be known that I created egyption history. My first order of business will be to sue the Toledo Museam of Art because they have an Egyption section featuring a MUMMY, and we all know that I thought of mummification first damnit!
Lawsuits lawsuits lawsuits, I f'ing swear. Companies don't make money by producing anything anymore, they just sue each other all day long. First we kill all the lawyers, then all the lawsuit happy morons in this god forsakken country, then we kill ALL CEO's and anyone who still works at SCO.
I would like to mention, my fever is at 103....
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