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Japan's Empire of Cool

The Wicked Priest writes "The Washington Post is reporting that culture is among Japan's leading exports." Talks about Anime, Manga, Music, Video Games and so forth. Interesting reading.

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  1. Don't we get this exact same article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...every year? I think it's the result of reporters on vacation at the end of the year, doing a cut-and-paste on the date, and hoping the editor doesn't catch the dupe.

  2. The U.S. is a major exporter of culture as well by xeno_gearz · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually, this is far from anything new. For the United States, as well as Japan, culture is a huge export. The United States, for example, exports much of Hollywood to other countries. This in turn ends up to equating an export of culture as the concepts of particular movies are absorbed by the individuals who view them. Hollywood is the best example but television and music also fit into the equation as well.

    There's one thing that Japan has over the United States when it comes to the export of culture, though; that's Hentai. :)

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    1. Re:The U.S. is a major exporter of culture as well by BroncoInCalifornia · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Food used to be most of the economic output. Then we got good at mass producing food.

      We had the industrial revolution. Most of the economy went to the manufacture and distribution of manufactured goods. Food became a small percentage of the total economic output.

      Now we are very very good at manufacturing stuff. Everything is so cheap now. TVs are cheap. Computers are cheap. Not long ago it was a big deal to buy these mass produced toys. Now they are impulse buy. For a while Japan led the world in this manufacturing revolution.

      Are we getting to a point where manufactured goods are not so imporant anymore. Perhaps manufactured goods are becoming a smaller part of the world economy. "Cultural" products are becoming more important and now onece again we are competing with the Japanise.

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    2. Re:The U.S. is a major exporter of culture as well by Narf+Narf · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not true. First of all, anime is not cool. Second, kids here dream of being all sorts of stupid things. Just like in America, they have all sorts of dreams when they are kids. The difference is maybe that they realize earlier that they are just going to end up being boring office workers like everyone else. While Americans, for example, persist on chasing fantasy careers for longer into their lives. But, this country is not nearly as homogenous as it is made out to be.

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  3. No way! by Skynet · · Score: 4, Funny

    Japan totally gets all it's cool from the United States, and our beloved Governor of California!

    Here's proof!

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  4. Cultural Imperialism by tsanth · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new Japanese overl-

    oh, screw it.

    1. Re:Cultural Imperialism by kampit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Watashi, mizukara, waga wa nuyy nihonji ooba shu no motenasu!

    2. Re:Cultural Imperialism by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Funny

      slashdot, where only here someone would translate a "I welcome" comment into Japanese.

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    3. Re:Cultural Imperialism by Yosho · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hm.. It's difficult to preserve the English phrase's structure and have it make sense, but I think it might be better as:
      Watakushi, mizukara, shinshii nihon no shu wo motenashite orimasu.

      That is, of course, assuming we're trying to be polite to our overlords. ;-)

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  5. Culture! by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

    We durn got all our culture right down here in Texas! We got more culture than a Petri dish!

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    1. Re:Culture! by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I didn't know Bukkake was a Texan thing."

      Shurtis! We got all kinds of barbeque sauce down here! Mesquite, honeybarbeque, spicy jalapeno, so why not bukkake too? Have to go check the store shelves for that one though. Haven't tried it personally...

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  6. Cultural Symbols vs. Culture by P!Alexander · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's important to note that cultural symbols are not akin to culture itself. Japan can export all the anime it likes but that isn't representative of it's entire culture nor will it affect other cultures enough to make them resemble Japanese culture in something other than a superficial way. For example, Japanese corporate structure and the loyalty given to your company (a structural phenomenon) is unlikely to get passed along through its cultural symbols. Just like American structural phenomenon are unlikely to get passed along through our blockbuster movie exports.

    In the end, reality is highly individualized and rarely is a culture made up solely of a selective portion of its symbols.

    1. Re:Cultural Symbols vs. Culture by goon+america · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree. When we say "culture is our greatest export" that's a figurative statement. We don't literally export our culture. Sometimes people forget that distinction, and that's why some get up in arms over "culture imperialism" like there's literally some organized effort to do that.

  7. Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by HunterZero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That since Japan opened itself up to the west it's been a maniac for other cultures. With the exception of the years before and during ww2, Japan has long been a rabid consumer for American culture, along with european culture.

    Just take a walk throughout Shibuya, Shinjuku, Ueno or Akihabara. You'll find a massive number of japanese teenagers (and adults) wearing shirts with "engrish" on them. Music is often sprinkled with a hearty dose of engrish as well. Try watching their TV programs sometime, you'll find plenty of american culture. Of course, they like to take it and modify it to their own means and that's exactly what Japan has been doing forever.

    This brings up an interesting question: Why are the Japanese so keen to take, modify and integrate other cultures to suit their needs, yet they're still incredibly racist of other cultures? If you doubt their racism, ask why they still have stores and places of business that advertise "Japanese Only"? Of course, for Americans it is a bit hard to understand the concept of being a distinct civilization since we've long been a melting pot, a nation made up of other nations.

    But I'm getting off the point. This article is nothing new. The reason why collectables are so expensive overseas is that it's so damned expensive in Japan! Whenever you feel like complaining about the price of dvds, remember that they charge around 40-60$ per dvd, and usually it has half as much as a dvd here in America.

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    1. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do not forget that Japan "opened itself up" to the west under the gaze of American cannons intent on obtaining Japanese culture.

      Thus resulting in the overthrow of the stable "military" Shogunate that had maintained Japan as a land of peace, domestically and internationally, for 250 years or so, to be replaced by militarists who armed Japan and went on an empire by conquest rampage.

      A rampage rather overtly based on the western model of such, no less.

      You are correct about Japanese racism though. This is a nation that can claim to have no racial issues due to their single race when millions of Japanese born people of Korean descent can't obtain citizen ship and the aboriginal populace is treated as if it doesn't exist, except maybe as a tourist exhibit.

      However, through most of their history they have overtly acknowledged that real culture came from the mainland, much as once the English may have held themselves superiour and yet looked to France, Italy and even the German provinces for real culture.

      It's a peculiar schizophrenia, but not entirely beyond the realm of understanding.

      On the other hand while we have hungered for Japanese goods for the past 200 years or so we too use them as Americans, without becoming Japanese in the process, even while we study Karate and go to Zendos to test our Koan understanding.

      We have our own peculiar ways of being schizophrenic, it's just harder for us to see because for us it's normal.

      So for the Japanese, or any other culture for that matter.

      KFG

    2. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This brings up an interesting question: Why are the Japanese so keen to take, modify and integrate other cultures to suit their needs, yet they're still incredibly racist of other cultures?

      It's pretty simple, same reason you find racism in certain parts of the States and in ethnic neighborhoods in cities. In monocultures, there's nobody around to point out that you're being a racist when everyone thinks the same.

      I'm Japanese, growing up in the burbs of NYC, I was stereotyped and the subject of racist remarks my entire childhood. It wasn't until I moved away to more metro areas that I found more acceptance. So racism still runs strong in the States, make no mistake about it.

      "National Pride" is ok, we see a lot of pride parades here in NYC. But just start to say something bad about another race, everyone jumps all over you for being a racist. You can't say anything about another culture without being condemned as a racist. We're forced to be politcally correct or face a civil lawsuit. That's a long ways away from being an integrated "melting pot" society as we'd like to believe.

      Japan isn't much different in terms of racism; the only difference is that there aren't people forcing them to watch everything they say, so they don't think about it. Yeah, many will openly discriminate and don't think twice about it, I hear about it from my caucasian friends who live in Japan. It's really that they haven't been forced to accept other cultures, socially or legally.

      What Japan really needs is Al Sharpton to stir things up, make them more aware of how racist the society is. Not sure if even he can do it, but it'd be a good start.

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    3. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by BlueQuark · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Funny thing, when I lived and worked in Japan, I never felt out of place and the people I worked with, almost all Japanese at Japanese company, never made me feel like an outcast, I was always involved and invited and not as a token gaijin or anything.

      My wife is Japanese and when we go back to her parents house, I feel more at home in Japan than I do here in Los Angeles, CA. And I'm a white guy with blond hair!

      But some of the foreigner's I worked with did feel out of place and had a few problems. But to be honest, I never experienced it.

      I think alot has to do with attitude and pre-conceived notions about things. But with all things your mileage may vary..

      And no I don't think Japan is perfect, it has a ton of problems. Expensive yes, but I found that Japanese produce is fresher, tastes better and looks better. Housing is expensive, but have you tried to buy a house in LA, or SF lately? A Japanese mortgage through a private lender will run you about 1.8 - 2.7% (depending on who you go to) ((4.5 if you go the govt.

      Most companies pay for you're daily commuter fee if you take the bus, subway or train.

      And personal income taxes are alot less for people making under 150k a year, than it is in the US. But if you make more than that you will get soaked more so than in the US.

      But with all things....

    4. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by Yosho · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, from what I understand, many of the "Japanese Only" signs are because shops don't want people who can't speak Japanese fluently. I have an American friend who visited Japan a while back, and he told me that he accidentally walked into a shop with a "Japanese Only" sign once; the shopkeeper yelled at him in bad English for a moment, but after my friend started speaking in Japanese to him, the shopkeeper apologized and welcomed him in.

      Granted, I'm sure that some of them are just racism, but not all.

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    5. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by sakusha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your understanding of Japanese history is rather weak. Japan has always had waves of influence from outside the country, resulting in rapid integration of social influences. Like for example, the influence of Buddhism from Korea in the 6th century, the influence of Kanji from China about that same time, the influence of foreign traders from Russia and the Netherlands in the 15th century, etc. Japan's history's most significant characteristic is its ability to rapidly adapt foreign technologies and culture towards its own purposes.

    6. Re:Yeah, that's interesting until you consider... by bugbread · · Score: 2, Informative

      "If you doubt their racism, ask why they still have stores and places of business that advertise "Japanese Only"? "

      Hmm...the only places I know with signs like that are brothels (due to the much higher incidence of AIDS in foreigners than in Japanese) and in baths up in Hokkaido that have had numerous run-ins with drunken Russian sailors who refuse to clean themselves up before getting in the communal tub. I'm not sure either has to do with racism directly, any more than blood transfusions from Brits being denied in the States does.

  8. Japanese Music ? by tealover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't been paying attention to the Billboard top 100 recently, but are there some Japanese rock bands that i don't know about ?

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  9. Ah, Japan... by Null+Argument · · Score: 3, Funny

    They make some of the coolest stuff in the world. At the same time, they also make some of the weirdest.

    Tentacle sex, anyone? ;)

  10. It's a good fusion of science and entertainment by HungWeiLo · · Score: 2, Funny

    We all know that the Japanese places heavy emphasis on education and scholarly conduct. Therefore, it surprises no one that even their entertainment (anime, pr0n) is infused with advanced studies of marine biology (tentacles)

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  11. Ruroni Kenshin... by herrvinny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously. Japanese manga, anime, etc are really good. I make it a point to watch Ruroni Kenshin every Saturday on Cartoon Network (OT, but does anyone have the English version of the song "Freckles" that they play in the opening title? I can't find it anywhere...)

    The thing I like about Japanese anime is that it makes you think. It's not blind violence or meaningless love. Everything has a well crafted story behind it. Just yesterday I was in Barnes and Noble, and was going to read "love hina" but got sidetracked by the new Star Wars book, The Unifying Force.

    The greatest thing though, it's a two way street. We get stuff like Ruroni Kenshin, Pokemon, etc, and the Japanese get McDonalds, Coke, etc.

    1. Re:Ruroni Kenshin... by Megane · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Everything has a well crafted story behind it.

      Not everything, but usually anything based on a successful manga that hasn't been drawn out too long is pretty good. (too long meaning Dragonball Z, or later episodes of Inu Yasha, which I stopped watching around episode 75 or so, and now it's up to 135) Sturgeon's Law still applies, but there is some filtering before it gets to a DVD on the shelf in Best Buy. Even when downloading fansubs, there is filtering when series don't get fansubbed.

      The important difference is that they're a lot more willing to not follow a formula in Japan, so you get to see more unique stuff. And they have people who can write (unlike Hollywood). And they write serial stores instead of episodic stores, so they can have more interesting stories than you can get in 22 or 45 minutes. So instead of 90% of everything being crap, it's maybe 80% or so.

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    2. Re:Ruroni Kenshin... by Yosho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you like Kenshin on CN, you owe it to yourself to buy the DVDs -- CN made some awful cuts to it, and most of the stuff that really makes you think has been mutilated. Just take a look at what happened to Soujirou's flashback. You might also have better luck searching for the song by its Japanese title, "Sobakasu."

      It's also worth noting that no, not all Japanese anime makes you think. There is plenty of it that is mindless violence and sex. La Blue Girl and M. D. Geist are a couple of classic ones. Most of the worst stuff never sees this side of the ocean, however. Of course, I'm also of the opinion that despite its popularity, Lova Hina is one of the worst romantic comedies out there...

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  12. I talked to an exchange student from Japan... by grungebox · · Score: 5, Interesting
    recently at this party I was at. Apparently, he says Japanese don't look down on Americans like Europeans do (admittedly with reasonable justification). He said Hollywood movies are huge over there as an earlier post mentioned, and the stars are on posters all over the place. For some reason, Brad Pitt is hot right now.

    Although the one interesting bit of Japanese culture that's taking over like crazy is manga. If you look at Border's or Barnes, you'll see five or six shelves of Manga, and American comics have been pushed into one small shelf at the end. It's apparently the "in" thing for youngsters, much like Fear Street books were the "in" thing back when I was in school.

    Food for thought...

    1. Re:I talked to an exchange student from Japan... by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " If you look at Border's or Barnes, you'll see five or six shelves of Manga,"

      Just a shame that 5 out of those 6 shelves are all Dragon Ball...

  13. Like this? by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The significance of anime

    Anime And The Tech Lifestyle

    Movie Review: Princess Mononoke

    An Extensive History of Anime

    This story is not exactly a dupe, but much of it is discussed in these earlier topics.

    OT, but has anyone had any success in loading /.'s search function? It always times out on me for the past two weeks or so, and I have to keep resorting to using Google search (which is not really a hardship, since Google beats out /.'s search function easily, but still, I'd like to at least access it.)

  14. It's because they're different by SamSim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think basically what the West is beginning to realise is that Japan is an entire culture which, while being easily as technologically advanced as America (and in many ways more so), is totally different from America. It's new, it's unusual, it's different, and a lot of it is stuff that Westerners have never even contemplated before, let alone seen.

    Kids are insane over Dragonball Z because super-kung-fu-firing-fireballs-from-fingertips-fly ing-about-kicking-people-through-mountains genre just doesn't exist in America. Sure, it's an appalling series on many levels, but it brings something new to the table and for them, that (combined with its testosterone content) makes it worth watching.

    1. Re:It's because they're different by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Another thing to keep in mind is that anime is also very convenient for many American viewers. For example, if I want a fix of anime without learning any Japanese, I can just flip on to Cartoon Network and most of the time they'll be playing some show that, up until recently, had no equivalent in the US.

      I mean, Afghanistanimation is completely different from any TV programs here in the states, but that won't necessarily make it popular because it's not readily available.

      And before you point this out, many of the Japanese programs are so convenient because they're so popular because they ARE cool. Not all of them, of course. Not even all of one show (e.g. DBZ has cool fights, but the sluggish pace makes the show unbearable).

      OT, but do Japanese people really repeat the same thing with different phrasing several times in a row to get their point across? And do they always state the blatantly obvious? What about not saying a word except for indecernable grunts for nearly a minute while experiencing shock and awe over Frieza's latest transformation? Or are these just conveniences (annoyances, I'd say) for a younger audience? If you couldn't tell, I've gotten kinda annoyed with DBZ and I'm curious if Japanese watchers found these same things to be annoying =)

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  15. Japan is a major importer of culture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No offence to any Japanese people, but Japan is actually a major importer of culture. Their strength lays in taking in good things from other people, and improve on them, making them better. Other than anime, the modern Japanese absorbed a lot from western countries.

    In the ancient time, most of its cultural customs came from China around the Tang dynasty. Examples include Kimono, Buddhism (which in turn came from India), original style of Samurai sword (the difference been in the straight edge of the blade instead of curved), the ancient form of Japanese language itself, and so on. The things about Japan is while they took on these things as their own and retained them as time went forth, China continoued to change through out various dynasties.

    1. Re:Japan is a major importer of culture by belmolis · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Japanese language did not come from China. Japanese and Chinese are unrelated languages. Japanese borrowed many Chinese words and the Chinese writing system, starting prior to the Tang dynasty, but the core of the language was not borrowed from China. It is also worth mentioning that there was not all that much direct contact with China. To a large extent the borrowing of "continental" culture was via Korea.

    2. Re:Japan is a major importer of culture by Senjutsu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...the ancient form of Japanese language itself...

      This is incorrect. While the Japanese certainly imported the Chinese writing system, there are no known or suspected linguistic links between Japanese and Chinese (indeed, given that Japanese is a multisyllabic, agglutinative language, and the Chinese languages are monosyllabic and highly tonal, it is hard to see how they could be more different). Most linguists classify Japanese as a language isolate (one with no known relatives), although some suspect it is distantly related to Korean and Mongolian, and a few group it in a family with Finnish, Estonian, and Turkish as well.

    3. Re:Japan is a major importer of culture by belmolis · · Score: 4, Informative
      "To a large extent the borrowing of "continental" culture was via Korea." Where do you think Korean ancient culture was influenced by?

      That's why I said via Korea rather than from Korea. It is true that there was some direct contact with Tang China, but the heavy influx of Chinese culture, including the writing system and Buddhism, clearly came via Korea, much of it prior to the Tang. Chinese writing was probably introduced (in the sense of scholars teaching the Japanese to read and write - objects with Chinese writing on them reached Japan earlier) at the beginning of the fifth century, that is, around 400 C.E., two hundred years before the foundation of the Tang Dynasty.

      The Japanese named their ancient capital to the same name as that of the Tang dynasty, translated to "Eastern Capital".

      This is not true. Tokyo does indeed mean "Eastern Capital", but it is not the ancient capital of Japan. During the Tang Dynasty, the capital of Japan was at Nara, near Kyoto. Later it moved to Kyoto. In those days, Tokyo was known as Yedo (now pronounced Edo in Japanese as a result of the loss of /y/ before /e/) and was considered the boondocks. Edo became the de facto capital when Tokugawa Ieyasu unified Japan (effectively after the battle of Sekigahara in 1602, formally in 1615) and did not become the official capital until 1868. It is called "Eastern Capital" in contradistinction to Kyoto.

  16. Can't believed they failed to mention that... by chendo · · Score: 4, Informative
    And the costumes and atmosphere of the recently concluded "Matrix" series were rooted primarily in Japanese manga.


    Highly likely the manga they're talking about Ghost in the Shell (recent coverage)
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  17. Is Japan Really Cool ? by tealover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many hot girls do you know that love manga, anime and videogames ?

    And please, no anecdotes about "my wife does!"...I'm talking in the general case. Walk into a bar on the Upper West Side talking about Castle in the Sky to the 6'0 Brazilian supermodel and she'll stare at you blankly while planning her escape.

    Japan has a niche with a certain segment (nerdy people) but their culture doesn't have broad appeal to the masses. Sure, videogames pull in a lot of money but they're typically bought by young men.

    The readers of this site will love the article because it will affirm something they want to believe in, but it doesn't really make it true.

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    1. Re:Is Japan Really Cool ? by HaveBlue34 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Japan has a niche with a certain segment (nerdy people) but their culture doesn't have broad appeal to the masses.

      Two words: Hello Kitty sanrio.com

  18. Heard in a Japanese Boardroom 15 years ago by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Troll

    "Screw manufacturing, lets instead focus on blobs with cute smiles and half-naked cartoon characters."

    "Boss, you are a genius!"

  19. I know you didn't read the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because it's Slashdot, but that isn't really what it's about it. It's more about Japan taking American (and other cultures), adapting it for Asians, and then shipping it back out to the rest of Asia. For example, they cut their jeans differently for their different body shapes, thus making their jeans popular in places like South Korea. Japan is essentially a cultural filter from Non-Asia to Asia.

  20. Re:War What Is It Good For? by belmolis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I can't deny that the US occupation of Japan provided a massive exposure of American culture to Japanese people, Japan was already engaged in the importation of Western culture on a large-scale prior to World War II. When the Meiji Emperor (ruled 1868-1912) decided to modernize Japan, Japanese people began to learn very actively about the West. This activity centered on science and technology, where Germany, as the industrial and scientific leader became the focus of attention. Physicians trained prior to the end of WWII, for example, used textbooks written in German and frequently went to Germany to study. Into the 1960s, patient charts in some Japanese hospitals were written in German. Modernizers also adopted or proposed the adoption of many other aspects of European culture. One seriously proposed that the Japanese language be abandoned, to be replaced by French!

    A curious forerunner was the developement, during the Tokugawa period (1615-1868), when Japan was largely cut off from foreign contact, of rangaku "Dutch Studies" (from Oranda "Holland" and Sino-Japanese gaku "study, -ology"). The Dutch were allowed to maintain a trading post on Dejima, then an island in Nagasaki harbor, so Japanese scholars interested in things Western focussed on the Dutch. Probably the most important thing to emerge from rangaku was knowledge of European medicine, particularly anatomy.

    The US Occupation probably had much more impact on popular culture, but at a more academic and technological level, the importation of Western culture had already taken place.

  21. Blade Rrunner and Giant Robots by fireteller2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Over the past few years all things Asian have been building up popularity here in L.A. As witnessed by the growth of such new magazines as "Giant Robot". Perhaps we're moving towards Blade Runner world.

    I for one am all for it. The Asian design since from Hong Kong and Japan is quite good, and it's time for them to stop regurgitating western culture and come into there own. There also seems to be a ground swell of radical art coming out of Japan. I read this as retaliation against a conformist culture. It's very exciting, I think we are in for ride the equivalent of America in the 60s.

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  22. Japan Rocks by molafson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like Japan. It rocks. The food's good, people are respectful of each other, and you can buy beer in vending machines. However, I feel compelled to tell you all that I hate anime. Lots of Japanese people hate it as well. (Similarly, many Americans hate Hollywood films, network television, etc.)

    I feel that American anime fanboys like anime mostly because it is different. To be a fan of anime makes them feel special (because ordinary American people are not very familiar with anime apart from Pokemon et al.)

    Lastly, what I hate even more than anime are anime-themed RPGs. Thank you for letting me vent. No offense intended.

    1. Re:Japan Rocks by ice-nine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      maybe you need to stop thinking of anime as a genre. there are tons of different kinds of anime, aimed at all different sorts of people. maybe it's just animation in general that you hate (disney, pixar, dreamworks, etc)?

      anyway i think your comment was dumb because basically all you're saying is you that don't like anime.

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  23. Not just the same but even more so... by xigxag · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those people who can't be bothered to read the article, one of the main points was that:

    A record 3 million people around the world are now studying the Japanese language, compared with only 127,000 in 1997, according to the Japan Foundation and Tokyo's Marubeni Research Institute.

    So, in other words, there is a measurable increase in the cultural cachet of Japan, it's not just a static, ongoing event. And it's not just about manga and anime, but food (sushi restaurants are now ubiquitous in any large city), and jrock/jpop, the prime examples of which are Glay, KinKi Kids, Puffy (known in the US as Puffy AmiYumi so as to avoid confusion with a certain hiphop impresario), Hamasaki Ayumi, the New York born Utada Hikaru and Morning Musume, a group of currently 15 girls that form the most well known part of a pop empire.

    Furthermore, even anime seems to be taking up an ever larger bite of the US Cartoon Network's schedule and the traditional Saturday Morning/after-school children's fare. It's even made a few recent ventures into wide release cinema in the US.

    However, one could argue, I think persuasively, that's Japan's cultural upswing is part of a larger trend in the Asia-fication of Western culture. What started with egg foo yung and chop suey has now branched out to shabu-shabu and kimchi. What began with Speed Racer and Godzilla has developed into Princess Mononoke, cosplay and Shaolin Soccer.

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  24. Mou Ichido ... by Yunalesca · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This isn't completely new. Remember the Impressionists? They were quite into their "japonaise" (I forgot the exact term...). There are quite a few paintings of European women dressed in kimono, and collecting trinkets from Japan was all the rage, not just among the artsy crowd. I think the reasons are still similar.

    Now, however, I think a lot of their exports (anime/manga/video esp) have loads of Western influence anyway. Aside from Inu-Yasha and Rurouni Kenshin (the latter of which is set in the Meiji - a major Westernizing period - anyway), I can't think of very many mainstream titles that involve something purely Japanese. But it's blended with their own culture, which is still different enough to be new and interesting for others.

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  25. J-Pop = American meme by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The rise of J-Pop documented in the article is really the success of American pop. Just as black rock & roll took over American pop culture when played by whites, American pop culture (boy bands, fast food, comic books, slutty schoolgirls, top 40 music with unintelligible lyrics) is bigger in Asia with an Asian face.

    This is a really encouraging phenomenon. Global culture flows bring us all together, giving us something in common. When we want to dance with each other, watch each other's movies, eat each other's food, we want to live together and talk about it. Only Hollywood sees the culture market as nationalistically competitive, because in Hollywood, culture is property is power, not to be shared, except at a self-perpetuating price. When people spread culture among ourselves, rather than from the centralized minaret of Hollywood, their power disappears. C'mon everybody, get down tonight!

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  26. America's leading export; poisonous culture by TyrranzzX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Notice the streets of bagdad and afganistan are being westernised? Wanna know why they don't like that and why alqueda calls america the great satan? If you've read some of the stuff bin laden has written about the USA you'll agree with (some of) his ideology, not his methodology. He says the USA is spreading lies and deciet, which it does do and has been doing although it's people don't agree with this one bit. I noticed a picture up on BBC of afganistan children being given presents from santa this year, and if you understand the psychology of christmas you'll be frightened from that. Christmas such of a fucked up holiday it isn't even funny, as is easter. We celebrate these holidays not because we're supposed to or because it satisfies some deep religous meaning like Hanukkah , we celebrate them because corperations, the goverment, and christian churches wanted them to be celebrated that way. Notice how crazy it's gotten?

    Notice the best buy catologe that comes in the mail every year with the star of david on the tree replaced with the star of best buy and the entire tree decorated with consumer electronics? Notice how all the packaging mysteriously has christmas branding on them? How Saint Nick appears in every window and every store front advertising one thing or another?

    In our culture, we eat poisoned food, use poisoned stuff (cosmetics, soaps, playstations, cell phones) and buy crap we don't need fulfill some lifestyle obsession gone wrong that is even more poisonous so that crazy people at the top of the ladder can feel powerful. Japanese culture is even more poisonous imo, they tend to mimic ours and run with it as far and as fast as possible. Infact, our number 1 export to japan after ww2 was our poisonous culture.

    Our number 1 export to the rest of the world is poisonous culture, and to whoever resists that without force enough to fight it off, we'll kill the parents and teach the kids our ways like we're doing in afganistan. Afterall, there's a reason we warehouse our old off into care homes near the ends of their life; so the ones that know what's wrong can't teach their kids and grandkids what's realy wrong.

    1. Re:America's leading export; poisonous culture by indefinite · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can agree that all those things you mentioned are not enlightened. I can agree that US has repeatedly mistreated other countries for our benefit. One thing that bothers me, when people go all of on this topic is that U.S. is not unique in any of this. Every f'n country does the same thing, given a chance.

      The countries that are the most critical of U.S. have histories of treating others that are worse than ours. We are no more hypocrites than the rest of them. Yet we are evil? The only reason we are 'evil' is that we have the most influence right now and it's popular to bring those higher then us down a peg. That will surely change and U.S. 'tyranny' will be just another blip in the past, much smaller then others.

      Another point of mine is about the redial Islamic beliefs. I can see that rich pigs like U.S. are disgusting to them, but who the flock are they? The way they treat women is so draconian it's amazing why nobody turns around and call that evil. Radical Islam treats people worse then U.S. culture ever did. People are killed for arbitrary reasons. Many times it is not only going against a ridiculously strict law that will get you shot. If somebody in power doesn't like the way you look, they can pretty much accuse you of anything and get you punished. Let's not forget that raped women are guilty for being raped and punished by death many times as well.

      If we are talking about poisonous culture, let's first examine how bad the poison is. If westernization means that all the atrocities of Mid-east (and Africa, and much of Asia) are going to go away and instead we are going to have McDonald's on every corner, I'll take that any day. After all, you have not known poisonous food after you had food where hygiene is non existent.

    2. Re:America's leading export; poisonous culture by Aaron+England · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You pass off "proof" as an excercise left to the reader, which means your thesis (America exports poisonous culture) lacks many internal warrants. Why should I accept your thesis when you can't substantiate what you are claiming?

      I noticed a picture up on BBC of afganistan children being given presents from santa this year, and if you understand the psychology of christmas you'll be frightened from that. Christmas such of a fucked up holiday it isn't even funny, as is easter.

      No, I really don't see whats so "fucked up" about Christmas or the "terrible" psychology of giving GIFTS to these improverished children. Could you please elaborate?

      Notice the best buy catologe that comes in the mail every year with the star of david on the tree replaced with the star of best buy and the entire tree decorated with consumer electronics? Notice how all the packaging mysteriously has christmas branding on them? How Saint Nick appears in every window and every store front advertising one thing or another?

      Uh huh. Two words, SO WHAT?!

      In our culture, we eat poisoned food, use poisoned stuff (cosmetics, soaps, playstations, cell phones) and buy crap we don't need fulfill some lifestyle obsession gone wrong that is even more poisonous so that crazy people at the top of the ladder can feel powerful.

      Please define "poisonous food". Also, please show that this is unique to the American culture, or at least we consume this food to a greater degree than all other nations. Please do the same for "poisonous stuff". What is wrong with buying "crap" that fulfils some lifestyle obsession? Could you establish a criterion that determines when someone commits this most, in your eyes, "most poisonous act".

      Japanese culture is even more poisonous imo, they tend to mimic ours and run with it as far and as fast as possible. Infact, our number 1 export to japan after ww2 was our poisonous culture.

      Please explain how our culture is "poisonous" first.

      Our number 1 export to the rest of the world is poisonous culture, and to whoever resists that without force enough to fight it off, we'll kill the parents and teach the kids our ways like we're doing in afganistan.

      I guess you can't forsee that people might actually want to adopt our culture on their own freewill because they see the advantages of free enterprise and other aspects of the American culture.

      Afterall, there's a reason we warehouse our old off into care homes near the ends of their life; so the ones that know what's wrong can't teach their kids and grandkids what's realy wrong.

      Non-sequitar.

      You discuss in your sig. about educating yourself. I suggest you take a class on persuasive argumentation beause your diatribe was netiher insightful or interesting. Until then, your thesis remains unproven.

  27. Re:Just maybe... by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I should learn more Japanese than "Dozo, ichi biru! Hai! Domo arigato" and the names of assorted foodstuffs."

    Phase 1: Learn romanji
    Phase 2: ???
    Phase 3: Kanji!

  28. Japan has been cool for years by NetNinja · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They still impose heavy tarrifs on American goods.

    You should see how much a Mustang GT goes for!

    Even though you may speak the language you will never be excepted. You are forever a Gaijin.

    We have been exposed to Japanese culture/anime since the 60's, Speed Racer is a classic example.

    I aggree with some of the posts above. America is a leader in cultural entertainment.
    The Japanesse and the Koreans improve on exsisting ideas, American cars for example.

    We(USA) can't make cars worth a shit anymore.

    How is it that a country with no natural resources is able to make cars cheaper and better than America who have all the natural resources at our doorstep.

  29. Re:Storylines are alien by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is good and what is evil? This very topic is explored by some of the deeper anime series and movies out there (IE, not pokemon or pokemon-clones). In many good shows, nobody carries a sign announcing their intentions either way. Take Princess Mononoke, for instance: Are the industrialists who are destroying the forests and the native peoples' way of life evil? Are the natives who are fighting back evil? And then there are the shows that don't operate on the same concepts of conflict that American shows do, such as Haibane Renmei or Niea Under 7, both of which illustrate caste systems and racism in interesting ways.

    But this thought-provoking nature is what draws me to these shows. Take the time to watch a "good" show (hint: if its on tv, its aimed at the mass market and is typically not so good. Watch a few episodes yourself, and if its got more flashing lights than an ambulance, its mass market kiddy fare). After you've seen it yourself and feel you're comfortable with the subject, watch it with your children and open the floor for discussion.

    If your children are later-middle-school or high-school aged, you should pick up His and Her Circumstances, a romantic comedy/drama that shows that peer pressure and worrying about one's appearance is pretty constant anywhere in the world. If you want your children to become tree-hugging vegans, there's also Arjuna (seriously. Don't watch this if you are the least bit squeamish or offended by environmentalists). Rurouni Kenshin might satisfy your a desire for action, while starring a hero who believes above all else that killing is wrong and who goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid doing so to his enemies (not to say that killing and blood and gore does not happen... the enemies, and even his friends don't share the same morality).

    Remember above all else, life is rated PG. If parents weren't required, children would simply pop into existance on their own. Take some time with your children to let them know you disapprove of the shows they are watching, take some time to explain why. Decide if you believe your children are mature enough to seperate what they see on tv from reality, and if they don't, offer some alternatives, whether they be different shows, or reading a book, or heck, go out and throw a frisbee or a ball or something.

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  30. Sobieto Roshia de... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... PUROFITO!!!

  31. Darwin, applied to culture by Rayonic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Want to know why American culture is so popular? Survival of the fittest. Many other cultures are stagnant and unchanging, but American culture embraces change. Thus, by default, it is much more interesting than most other cultures.

    Japanese culture is another big mover. Do I feel threatened or jealous about its recent popularity? Naw. Embrace and extend, that's our motto. We take the best parts of other cultures, integrate and expand on it, and then export it right back at them. Mind you, everyone else is welcome (nay, encouraged) to do the same.

    Our culture is no more "poisonous" than anybody else's. It's just more awesome.

    1. Re:Darwin, applied to culture by pi42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed. Mod this man up!

      Nobody goes and forces people in other countries to go to McDonald's, to drink Coca-Cola, to watch the Matrix, or to wear blue jeans. These things spread because they're good. You can say that a McDonalds on every street in the world is disgusting (an assertion that is probably true), but they're not there because of some conspiracy--they're there because people patronize them.

      Just as Japanese culture isn't "attacking" American culture, American culture isn't "attacking" European, Middle Eastern culture, etc.

      It sounds dumb and jingoistic, but American culture isn't everywhere because of conspiracy, but because it's awesome and people like it.

  32. Name a Famous Japanese Person by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's unfortunate that this guy is racking up some Troll and Flamebait mods since he's making a good point, albeit a bit inelegantly. There's a now-infamous poll that was given to Americans in 1995 which asked "Name a Famous Japanese Person". The results? #1: (Chinese martial artist) Bruce Lee. #2: (American-born) Yoko Ono. #3: Godzilla. I'm not kidding! I wish a good link to give you but if you're interested a bit of goolging will help you find people referring to this study.

    Okay, so that was back in 1995. Ancient history, right? Give me a break. I bet if you give this question to 'the man on the street' again you'd get pretty much the same result. Obviously Japanese has made some incredible contributions to world culture. But until the day you can show the average American a photo of some famous Japanese celebrity and they can instantly recognize them, we should probably use a word other than "empire" to describe their impact in America.

    GMD

  33. Re:Just maybe... by Little+Brother · · Score: 2, Insightful

    2. Hiragana and Katakana

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  34. sad to say by east+coast · · Score: 2

    I know I'm going to get beat on by some geeks but...

    Japanees popular culture reeks of the same kind of cheap, campy sensations of cheap Vegas tourist attractions. Just go off to a Japanees website that wasn't made with Western web surfers in mind and you'll see what I mean.

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