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Wind Turbines Kill a Few Birds

Guppy06 writes "The Houston Chronicle has an article about how a 7000-turbine windfarm in Altamont Pass, California (the world's largest collection) has killed an estimated 22,000 birds during the past 20 years or so of operation, 'including hundreds of golden eagles, red-tailed hawks, kestrels and other raptors(.)' There are efforts to keep the operators from renewing their permit until they take measures to protect bird populations. To put things in perspective the article goes on to point out that the Exxon Valdez spill is estimated to have killed around 250,000, while the whole story can just about be summed up by one quote by a biologist: 'When you turn on your lights you kill something, no matter what the source of electricity.'" Killing 3-4 birds per day doesn't seem too bad. It's a shame that larger, rarer birds are getting killed, but... How many birds would die from the acid rain that a coal power plant would cause?

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  1. Eh... Big deal... by iiioxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Evolution in action. Obviously it only kills the dumb birds, the *smart* birds fly *around* the propellors...

    I wish we could take this tact with the human population. I say, take the warning labels off of everything and let the chips fall where they may.

  2. Re:Solution ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just put up a giant scarecrow in the middle of the turbine farm.

  3. Re:Solar? by DaHat · · Score: 4, Funny

    UV Radiation no doubt, or not.

    Just imagine a microwave installation receiving power from space, flapping birds would enter one side, and a KFC would set up shop on the other (yes, I know such frying would require a high intensity area).

  4. Re:Solution ? by Washizu · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Why not put big metal grid around each turbine?"

    Ever see a flock of birds stuck to a giant fan?

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  5. Easy solution! by Rinikusu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hunters. Get hunters to stand below the turbines and SHOOT the birds before they can be chopped to pieces.

    Oh wait, we're saving the BIRDS not the TURBINES.. damn damn damn!

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  6. Re:Solution ? by kfg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any solution with magnetic fields?

    Oh sure, condemn them to a slow and painful death by cancer instead of quickly and cleanly in the aero-electric abattoir.

    KFG

  7. Re:Solution ? Duh.. by cheeseSource · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just encase the fans in glass.

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  8. Re:I think it has something to do with location by cnkeller · · Score: 5, Funny
    I remember seeing something about it's location being in a migratory flight path and other wind projects did not have the same problem.

    Nah, it's probably the guy that hung the birdfeeders behind the turbine....

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  9. Greenpeace volunteers... by N8F8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Get treehuggers to stand in front of the turbines and catch the birds before they hit the blades.

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  10. Solution by Stonent1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Put the bird carcasses and a big furnace that boils water that spins more turbines! Think OUTSIDE the box people! We just got yet another energy source!

  11. Re:Solution ? by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nonsense. I know lots of people with cancer and the correlation with living under the influence of earth's magnetic field is remarkably high.

    KFG

  12. Re:Solution ? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    few birds be damned -- lets look at the bigger picture

    As a lovely woodpecker who's currently undergoing treatment in a small padded cage for psychological disorders following a close encounter with a huge wind turbine several years ago, I resent that remark.

    Love,
    Woody.

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  13. Re:Solar? by pergamon · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's hardly a victimless energy source. We all know that the Sun is only able to continue emitting energy by consuming a steady stream of kittens.

  14. Re:Solution ? by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Chicken wire is just too specific, man. You'd also need eagle wire, wren wire, and african swallow wire, just to name a few.

    BTM

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  15. Re:Solution ? by JWW · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, I'd bet they've killed exactly 0 chickens with the turbines.

    Chicken Wire would be useless!!!!! ;-)

  16. Oh, great idea by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Funny
    Just put up a giant scarecrow in the middle of the turbine farm.
    Yeah, let's erect an enormous scarecrow amidst a bunch of energy-generating machines. First time there's a lightning storm you just know there's gonna be some Frankenstein action going on, and then we've got a hundred-foot scarecrow rampaging across California, slashing budget programs and repealing taxes left and right... wait, that's the governor.

    On the plus side, we'd have to get Godzilla and Mothra to team up against the scarecrow, so, it wouldn't be a complete loss.

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  17. Re:Solution ? by Dirtside · · Score: 3, Funny
    As a quick comparison, in the past year, three birds have died after running into the living-room window in my house. Those turbines are downright safe!
    And your living room window has a bird death rate nineteen times higher than one of these turbines. Clearly your house must be demolished! :)
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  18. How does this compare to McDonalds ? by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Funny
    In this article Pamela Anderson takes on KFC (really - not a troll) it says KFC kills 750 million birds per year. Add that to McDonalds and you have over a billion/year. Puts some perspective on the turbines...

    (and it has a nice picture)

  19. Re:Solution ? Duh.. by vsprintf · · Score: 4, Funny

    However, between 7000 turbines and 22,000 birds, thats not exactly a bad statistic. More birds are killed by lots of other things, such as aircraft, cars, and yes, even your humble domestic cat.

    I can vouch for that. I got two pheasants and a sparrow this year with one Toyota. Multiply 3 by the the number of Toyotas on the road, and one can easily see that wind farms and turbines are not the problem. Save the birds! Ban imported cars!

  20. Re:Solution ? by addaon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Warning: Parent post is long. Cliff's notes follow:

    Lots of my friends are environmentalists!

    I'm an environmentalist!

    A bad one!

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  21. Re:Solution ? by Afrosheen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here's the solution right here:

    Make the propeller blades out of NERF! Also put cameras on top of each pole. You can then sell the video to America's Funniest Home Videos and make some money to help pay for the Nerf conversion. The birds get a chance to learn this way! And it's fun for the whole family. *bonk* hahah look at the sillie birdie *baf* almost got him that time!