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More Linux Predictions for 2004

An anonymous reader writes "Experts, shmexperts - it's time for the Linux community's own predictions, felt the editors of LinuxWorld Magazine. Prognostications in their Jan 2004 round-up cover media players ('turning your phone into an iPod will be hot by the end of 2004'), IPOs ('Of course, LinuxCertified, Inc'), and MS ('Microsoft will start an intensive campaign to promote their Longhorn technology as Linux standards compliant') - that last is one from Samba's John Terpstra." The original story was back in November.

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  1. I predict.. by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Interesting


    Sun and IBM will be considered the biggest Linux players by the end of 2004, and that Linux will be installed on Mac like numbers of corporate desktops (corporate not techy).

    I also predict the return of thin-clients to the corporate environment, especially in large outsourcing contracts.

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    1. Re:I predict.. by MosesJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Disagree...

      IBM don't want to own a release they want to build on top of both SuSE and Red Hat, Sun will do the same. This will enable both SuSE and Red Hat to get good profits BUT... will ensure competition between them managed by the big two, thus preventing anyone becoming Microsoft. IBM will release, and support, Desktop versions released on Red Hat and SuSE to corporate customers depending on where they are based.

      Sun runs around 20,000 people off thin clients, and most of their laptop users are moving over to Java Desktop (really Linux).

      Think of it this way...

      Microsoft make money out of the desktop and want to make money out of the server using .NET, .NET only works on Windows.

      Sun and IBM make money out of the server, and want to continue to make money on the server. They make money out of J2EE based applications on those servers which runs on anything.

      If you kill Windows on the desktop you kill .NET, and killing it in this context means getting a significant enough share to make businesses question solutions that are purely windows based (say 10%+ should do it, 25% is the sweet number though). So how do IBM and Sun do this ? They release full desktop suites at a fraction of the price of windows (Sun will give you $150 a seat for their whole enterprise stack including desktop, office, email, application server, directory etc etc).

      Now the one thing that stands in the way here is Outlook, love it or hate it it does do calendaring and email, with task lists and that Exchange server is the thing that really stops people moving over. The Sun system kicks Exchange into touch.. but an open source solution that gets decent penetration would further help here. If Sun Messaging or Domino gain share in the next 12 months this will be indicative of companies looking to move away from Windows.

      The Sun and IBM plan is in many ways about killing .NET, not Windows.

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      An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
  2. One of the things that would be nice... by Sheetrock · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'd like it if the Linux community could be a bit more persuasive with companies releasing Linux-related things to make them, well, more Linux friendly.

    Linux, for me, peaked in usability/reliability in 1999. It's still quite useful, but I began experiencing many more compatibility problems since that point.

    I have a video card whose driver is closed. I've got multiple peripherals that are only partially implemented because manufacturers for some reason are reluctant to release information to developers. It's great as-is, don't get me wrong, but participating on the Internet has gotten much harder as everybody decides to go proprietary and tug in different directions.

    For example, Flash runs slower on Linux; so slow that it causes the sound to go out of sync (related bug that also seems to bite some Windows installs: this applet and those coded like it have audio that is too quiet). Java is still a real pain to get working right. Maybe the greatest thing that's happened this year is Mozilla/Firebird, but I'm running it without add-ons!

    I believe only great things are to come, what with Linux having reached 2.6.0, and greatly appreciate all the developers have done for it. Now, I think it'd be nice if others began to support it.

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  3. Reality check for linux in 2004 by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Insightful
    2003 was clearly the year Linux became seriously accepted by analysts, investors, and most other non-technical people who needed convincing.

    2004 will be a year for delivery-on-promise and return-on-investment. The halo is off and linux will have to prove itself by the same measures other IT components are judged. Fortunately, linux will continue to leverage huge cost benefits, huge mindshare benefits, and a rising tide of anti-Microsoftism. that said, lofty valuation for RedHat and Novell will likely come into question sometime soon.

  4. Torvalds will be... by EduardoFonseca · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... hired by Microsoft. RMS and ESR will join the SCO legal team. Bill Gates will get even fatter. Steve Ballmer will resign from MS and join some wicked monkey-dance group.

    slashdot.org will be bought by Fox News. CowboyNeal will become a Fox News Anchor.

    The world will collapse.

  5. Stuff to look out for in 2004. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    There is a lot of stuff coming out for Linux in 2004, here is a list of the most antisipated stuff. Distros
    • Mandrake 10
    • SuSE 10
    • Slackware 10
    • Fedora Core 2
    • Lindows 5
    • Gentoo 2004
    • Knoppix 4
    • Debian 3.1. Ooops, thats delayed until 2010 :)
    Desktops
    • Xfree86 4.4
    • Xouvert
    • KDE 3.2
    • Gnome 2.6
    • XFCE 4.1
    • More Boxes
    Applications
    • Mozilla 1.6
    • Mozilla bird collection
    • OpenOffice 1.2 or 2.0
    • Nvu
    • Evoloution 2
    • Gimp 2
    • KDevelop 3
    • Mplayer 1.0
    Look forward to these, I know I am waiting for Mandrake 10, I am currently trying out the new snapshot :).
  6. These are really old arguments by IANAAC · · Score: 4, Interesting
    When was the last you bought a PC with XP loaded? You most likely didn't get the actual XP media, but a ghost image to restore from to restore "factory defaults". The same thing can easily be done with any new Linux machine. If you are looking for polished installers, look at any distribution: SUSE, RedHat, Mandrake... they ALL have very polished installers.

    As far as hotkeys, why would you want to standardize them? I can define any key to do what I want currently with my distro (SUSE). Different people work in different ways. Why restrict them to what you think should be standard.

    Your "frequent tasks" comment doesn'r provide any examples, but you could look back to hotkeys to provide solutions.

  7. Re:Slackware is where it's at... by Gwala · · Score: 4, Interesting

    tar -zxvf is now automated by a tool called 'swaret', which is an apt-like utility, that downloads/decompresses the tarball, and then work's out dependencies, and download's anything you need. There is pkgtool for tarballs in the slackware format, however it doesnt dependency check.

    -Adam

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  8. Office monopoly will begin to crack by astrashe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think we're on the brink of the collapse of Microsoft's office suite monopoly. There's a lot less lock-in with office than there is with windows, so it's much easier for people to switch to open office.

    Microsoft's pricing and online activation system has already pretty much removed office from consumer pc's. People who used to take cds home from work are doing without, and it's only a matter of time until the word about open office gets out. I'm not claiming that open office is as good as microsoft office, but it's good enough, I think.

    I think that microsoft is making one of the biggest mistakes in its history in the way it prices office. The strategy seems to be aimed, as near as I can tell, at keeping corporate revenues high while allowing MS to cut prices for low end consumer machines.

    A corporate workstation with xp pro and office pro pays microsoft almost 3x what a consumer user with xp home and works pays. I don't think that reflects costs or utility to the customer.

    The most useful part of what people pay microsoft for comes from xp home -- it gives you the ability to run the huge library of windows software, access to the huge array of hardware device drivers, and core networking tools. What you get, for the buck, from jumping to xp pro or adding office on to the back, provides a lot less utility for each dollar spent.

    If you decide that the corporate market can bear substantially higher prices than the consumer market, and if you notice that the main differences between a corporate user and a home user is office, then loading up the costs on the office side makes sense. I think that's what they're doing, and I think it's a fundamentally unstable pricing scheme.

    So I predict that we're going to see corporate workstation users going with xp home and open office. A lot of computers that have been sold with $375 worth of microsoft software on them will now be sold with $94 worth of microsoft software on them.

    MS-Office still makes sense for a lot of people. If you run exchange server, and want to use outlook as a groupware client, it makes sense. Excel users who earn a lot are going to get the spreadsheet they know and want, no one's going to tell a $150k/year guy to learn a new spreadsheet. But those types of users don't add up to a monopoly.

    If the office monopoly begins to crack, it will be a really big deal. It will be a decline in a core microsoft business, and will suggest that perhaps the best days are behind them. And it will be the result of an open source project.

    Windows to linux is a very wrenching change, in a million little ways. But MS-Office to Open Office is a lot more doable.

    I think that's where MS's empire will first start to crack.

    1. Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack by astrashe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a paid for version of office on my home windows computer. I like it.

      But I see a lot of people in this situation. They go to wal-mart, and they buy a HP machine for $500. They're not comptuer people, they just want to go online, hit the web, send email, and type up some stuff from time to time.

      Because they buy at wal-mart, they don't get a crack at the $234 OEM price on office professional. Something comes up, and they decide that they'd like to have office -- someone sends them a powerpoint file, or whatever. And they find out that office is $450. They're just not going to spend that.

      In the old days, they would just bring the office cds home from work. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it is what happened. But now they can't.

      My point was that if people start running open office at home, there's going to be a userbase of people who run it. If a pointy headed boss runs open office at home, and says, "this is good enough," maybe he'll figure it's good enough for the people he manages.

    2. Re:Office monopoly will begin to crack by robertjw · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think Open Office is good enough to compete with MS-Office, but most importantly it reads and writes MS-Office (word, excel) files very nicely.

      Converting to Open Office will not only crack the Office suite monopoly, but it will give the Linux desktop a foothold in the corporate world. Many office users primarily require MS-Office to do their jobs. If corporate IT can move these users to Linux and using Open Office they will.

  9. Perhaps... by Oen_Seneg · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Steve Ballmer gets drunk and decides to open source all of Microsoft's products.

  10. Re:Slackware is almost where it's at... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
    When I tried fedora I was pleasantly surprised. Nobody came to my door to rape my cat and beat my wife or anything.

    Are you sure you installed it correctly?

  11. "And The Future?" by PJ of Groklaw by PSaltyDS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Our brainy heroine and penguin loving paralegal babe, PJ at Groklaw, posted an article covering some New Year's trend spotting. Some of the goodies:

    1. Invester's Business Daily makes up its Top 10 Tech Stories of the year without mentioning Microsoft in any context.

    2. A speculation comes from Chris Gulker in an IT Managers Journal article that Microsoft will introduce an MSLinux when Longhorn turns out to be unsellable. (Good thing or bad thing? I think good, if it happened.)

    3. The example of Smart Displays, where per-user licensing inhibits even Microsoft's innovation, as cited in a Register article:

    "The final nail in its coffin was Microsoft's absurd decision to kow-tow to the tin god of its licensing agreements. If you took your smart display downstairs, nobody in the den with the computer could use it. Single user licence, repeated Microsoft marketing droids. 'We can't compromise our standard licensing policy."

    4. From the counter example of what can be, in the MagicBike project of the Parsons School of Design, PJ muses: "The idea is, when everyone gets to play, innovation is the result. Innovation doesn't come from money or walled-in projects, although money can help implement ideas. Innovation comes from people, and as George Bernard Shaw once pointed out, talent can show up simply anywhere, where you least expect it. The lower the barrier to entry, the more likely you are to get wonderful ideas. It's one reason I keep it possible to leave anonymous comments on Groklaw, despite the down side to that."

    5. Vince Cerf's vision of the ubiquitous net is cited, reaching even to other planets.

    PJ concludes: "Yes, [Microsoft] must adapt in order to be part of the future. I think it's a given that no one wants a wireless product that can only legally connect to one PC predetermined during setup. Not after somebody sent the mayor an email from a bike in Union Square station in NYC. Or even read about it. Once you have the concept and you see what is possible, you know what you know, and Brand X doesn't work for you after that. Like the song says, there's nothing like the real thing."

    I know most of these points have been previously featured on /., but I like the compilation of them as a converging threat to Microsoft's paradigms that may cause significant rethinking in 2004.

    Besides, I think I have a crush on PJ... :-)

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