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FVWM Developers Announce New Logo
taviso writes "In celebration of 'multiple virtual desktop window manager for the X Window system' FVWM's tenth birthday last year, the developers announced a contest to design a new logo for the project. The votes are in, and the winner has been announced. For some time the meaning of the "f" was lost, and 'feline' was one of many suggestions in the FAQ. The original meaning is described in a history of FVWM. FVWM is a remarkable piece of software - if you havnt seen some of the things you can do with it check out some of these screenshots."
Well FWIW, I've used a number of window managers in my relatively long UNIX history. I still remember TWM and MOTIF, and I had a WM-less desktop when it was all the rage at MIT. I've used pretty much all versions of GNOME and KDE, though neither for very long. I have used blackbox and its derivates, openbox, pekwm, pwm, vtwm, metacity, an obscure scheme based wm whose name I don't remember, alloywm, aewm(++), kwin, window maker, afterstep, evilwm, and a host of others whose name escapes me because they weren't worth remembering.
I tell you, nothing compares to the power of FVWM.
It lets you define multiple workspaces, all of which can have several virtual desktops where you can freely scroll around. Workspaces and desktops are created dinamically as you request them and deleted when you no longer need them, it is completely configurable to a point where you can open a console and talk directly to the window manager, changing the settings and interacting with the WM on-the-fly. It allows any focus model you could possibly imagine, it lets you load modules likes pagers, launchbars, and so on.
And that is only the beginning.
So basically, there are window managers (like.. fluxbox, which is impossibly popular among the crowd who only tried the KDE WM and fluxbox and decided fluxbox is the best thing that ever existed), and there are Window Managers.
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - horror/fiction writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details yet. I'm sure we'll all miss him, even if you weren't a fan of his work there's no denying his contribution to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
The logo is cute, but is the feline theme good? It gives the impression of an aristocratic, fat, and unresponsive yet highly demanding WM.
I might switch from blackbox for a while and try out fvwm. Hopefully its easy to make it look nice like those screenshots. I hate it when you see nice screenshots only to later realize its nearly impossible to make a wm look like that.
I just designed some new logos for Gnome and KDE. I used a Giraffe for Gnome (Gnu was already in use), and a Kangaroo for KDE. I'm not sure if they will hold logo contests, but I'm ready for it!
I thought it was cool how no-one really knows what the F stood for anymore, and to make it stand for "Feline" just because some of the developers have cats? That's just daft.
If you can't get hold of whoever came up with the original name to ask them what it was you shouldn't make it up in their absence. They created and named the project and you should respect that.
By the way, FVWM's a good and very configurable wm. However, as a result of being so configurable it's codebase has to support loads of options and is big as a result. Personally I prefer the smaller window managers such as aewm and it's derivatives.
Fuck, slashdot really sucks.
WHY are there so many window managers? Checking the Window managers section on Gentoo Packages site there are 44! A search for Window Managers on fresh meat brings over 400! yes, 400 window managers.
What is wrong with the standard K window manager on KDE? What is wrong with the Standard Sawfish Window manager with Gnome! This is the problem. The X11 designers should of FORCED an intergrated Window manager, like Windows and Mac OS did. Hopefully the KDE and GNOME guys can create a unified Window manager for Xouvert and seal off all these useless window managers for good!
Twm is shit, FVWM is too old, BlackBox is too weird, Ratpoison is too hard, evilwm is just stupid. The Debian and Gentoo guys should enforce a one window manager policy. You can whine about "choice", but Id rather have one fucntional flawless Window manager than 400 buggy ones that do things differently.
The average user should never hear the word Window Mangager, and the KDE and Gnome guys are working hard to make their intregrated Window managers a seamless part of the system. In KDE 3.2 beta, the login screen has moved the Session type (their terminology for Window manager) into a sub menu so the average user will not see it.
Conclusion, all Window managers should die in favour of Desktop environments. Don't talk to me about 'bloat', when you only have kdelibs and kdebase rpms installed, it takes only 50Mb, which even on a 5 year old hard disk is about just 1% of the disk. Even a full install of KDE takes only a few hundred MB.
Yes, -1,flamebait, but my opinion is shared by most.
That was a while a go. Back in 94 The F stoof for Feeble.
...FVWM's been around for far longer than either KDE or GNOME.
... of an Onion headline from a couple of years ago:
"New corporate logo changes everything"
That's ok, Jesus likes me anyway.
I've been working with fvwm for a while, and enjoy fixing up .fvwm2rc's for my machines. Here is a page of mine with several for you to try, and here is a link to the one that I am using now, with SuSE Linux, to make this post. As you can see, I love working with FVWM.
I recognize that fvwm is a hugely powerful and highly configurable window manager.
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However, I would like to mention sawfish (running along side a gnome-panel, if you like) because it too operates on roughly the same level of flexibility and programability.
For details of some of the advanced things you can do, please see this link http://world-net.net/home/mangeng/faster_hacker/s