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A Look Inside Virginia Tech's New Super Computer
Mr Bob "The original" bougert brings us "...a video of the Virginia Tech super computer centre. How many people think that super computer centres like this, with their reasonably cheap cost should be created in more places? This video of the infamous super computer should be interesting to some and pretty to look for others." It views like an ad for Apple, but Virginia Tech has scored quite an achievement with this milestone, and this should serve as a decent introduction for those unfamiliar with the project.
so we are going to post it anyway ?
Apple isnt a charity, shall we see what Microsoft are up to ?
iGrow tired of all these apple stories.
It views like an ad for Apple,
Gee, did the fact that it was hosted at apple.com clue you in?
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...what they could do now for the same cost using the new Xserve dual 2 Ghz G5.
Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5
512K L2 cache/processor
1GHz system bus/processor
512B DDR400 ECC SDRAM
80GB Serial ATA drive
Dual Gigabit Ethernet
All for only $3000. They could really built a small, inexpensive cluster with a couple thousand of those.
...And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." - Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
Virginia Tech put together a spectacular number 3 ranked supercomputer for a (comparative) pittance in a (comparative) heartbeat. They did it with Apple's latest/greatest. Is it surprising that Apple wants this story told? I'm just shocked that they aren't filling the airwaves with the story (at the very least on every news program that PHBs watch).
I was amazed at the cost/performance ratio that they were able to achieve with Big Mac. Over at Barefeats.com, they point out that a Dual 2ghz G5 is roughly 17% faster AND more expensive than a Dual 1.8 G5 - keeping the cost/performance ratio fairly equal. Taking this out to supercomputer levels, the #1 supercomputer is three and a half times faster than Big Mac but cost 60x as much money!!! Amazing.
The video states that the top two cost in the hundreds of millions to build...but never says how long ago. Dont get me wrong the Mac cluster is quite impressive and inexpensive but the price to power ratio has been changing quite rapidly just in the last few months! So if you rebuilt the top two today how would they rank pricewise?
The project leader, Dr. Srinidhi Varadarajan, will be speaking at a session entitled Building Virginia Tech's G5 Supercluster on Jan 28 at the upcoming O'Reilly Mac OS X conference.
He'll probably reveal some of the technical details, such as the version of Mac OS X used, at that session.
Also, according to a blog at O'Reilly:
Next year, all the little known details [about the cluster] will be revealed in a new book. By that time we'll know what the project means for supercomputing and for Apple.
Apple doesn't place a giant markup on its products. They put a lot of money into product and industrial design. Therefore, Apple computer's cost more.
Virginia Tech did not get a discount on those machines. They purchased 1100 Dual 2ghz G5s at full price and spent around 3.5 million dollars on those machines. And other 1.5 to 2 million was spent on networking hardware, software, racks, etc.
Furthermore. You don't have to buy individual licenses for OS X. OS X server comes with an unlimited client license and you can put it on as many computers as you please. Or, you can decide to use OS X (client), and every new Mac comes with that for free anyway. There are also no serial number or license activation annoyances involved with OS X.
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My guess is that a number of folks are planning on building them. Especially now that the 1U G5 Xserve is out. Here is the issue though: VTech wanted to publicize this as a means to attract attention to their programs and Apple wanted to publicize this for obvious reasons. However, if I were a company (or a private or government institution), I may not want to advertise the fact that I am building one of these superclusters. Think about it. This could be a serious stealth weapon (so to speak) for a number of industries that have historically spent huge amounts of money on supercomputing infrastructures.
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"Apple doesn't place a giant markup on its products. They put a lot of money into product and industrial design. Therefore, Apple computer's cost more."
Wrong. Anyone who has sold computers or has industry experience will probably let you in on a little secret: there is a tiny markup in computers. Period. Money is made in accessories and service plans.
And for (hopefully the last time)Macintoshes are not more expensive! This point has been made many many times on Slashdot. But to make it one more time (IANAMU [I am not a Mac User]):
$6,174.00
Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5
4GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 4x1GB
2x250GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
56k V.92 internal modem
SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
Apple Keyboard & Apple Mouse - U.S. English
Mac OS X - U.S. English
$6,634
Dell Precision Workstation 650
2 xIntel(R) Xeon(TM) Processor,3.06GHz,512K Cache
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional
Hyper-Threading feature preset to "ON."
Memory: 4GB,DDR266 SDRAM Memory,NECC
Keyboard: Entry Level, PS/2, No Hot Keys
Mouse: PS/2,Dell, 2 button w/no scroll
Monitor: No Monitor Option
Graphics Cards: nVidia, Quadro NVS 280, 64MB, dual monitor VGA capable
Speakers: Internal Chassis Speaker
Productivity Software: Dell Precision Workstation
4X DVD+RW/+R AND 16XDVD-ROM,DVD Decode/Sonic SE(for Professional Authoring) DRWDV4X
2x250GB SATA, 7200 RPM Hard Drive with DataBurst Cache(TM) SARC RAID
Floppy Drive: 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive
So what was that about macintoshes being more expensive?
(Note I had to reformat the Dell Quote so that it would look ok)