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BSDVault Interviews Rick Collette of EkkoBSD
An anonymous reader writes "BSDVault has interviewed Rick Collette of the EkkoBSD project. Among other things they discuss project goals and roadmap for this new distro."
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Losing JKH from -core was to say the least, unsavory, yet you think FreeBSD is dependant on 1 or 2 members of the -core team? I mean... come on, seriously? If FreeBSD is "dead" because of a 'decline in market share' or due to losing a member or two of the core team, you're just sadly mistaken. To play devil's advocate: Let's assume you're correct, and we lose half our user base. What a pity! /*sarcasm*/ Regardless, we'll continue to hack away, we really don't care - and our success is NOT measured by how many use our "Product." If that were the case around the board, Linux might as well be refered to as "dead", since Microsoft reigns supreme, still.
.. I think I might know why *BSD trolling has seen a sharp increase in the last 6+ months or so, Hmm, gee..
I quote:
Seven of the top nine sites run on FreeBSD. The exceptions are Datapipe, which is doing a fine job of promoting the reliability of Windows 2003, and German hosting company komplex.net which runs on Linux.
Posted by mhp at 08:54 AM UTC on Jan 11, 2004 in Hosting, Performance.
Reference: news.netcraft.com
FreeBSD seems to have been whooping ass in the hosting field for a while now according to NetCraft surveys. (Long before this article's 6 month window as well.)
This NetCraft article proves nothing about say, Linux vs. FreeBSD or FreeBSD vs. Win2k3, to me it says, FreeBSD isn't dying off, and if it is, it sure is a pain riddled, horrifcally slow death. (if less people are running FreeBSD, good, less morons to have to help , I'm sick of being asked how to update the locate database after all these years..)
Before you put words in JKH's mouth: See JKH's resignation
Why did Apple hire JKH? Not because he looks good in a push-up bra, I can promise you that.
If JKH thinks FreeBSD is no longer viable code, why does Apple continue to develop a branch off FreeBSD, and why is Panther based from FreeBSD 5.x? OS X Panther(features column)
FreeBSD isn't a "clique" of elites, we didn't all install FreeBSD because it's "Cool". So many Linux zealots have called FreeBSD users out, saying we're trying to "fit in." Which is ironic, since many of them installed it because their buddies said, "Oh l00k, itz 31337 d00d."
I've run Linux since kernel 0.99, there was a time I prefered Linux(0.99 - 2.0.34) over any BSD, those days are long passed. However, I DO NOT look down my nose at Linux users, and I certainly don't troll any Linux "forums", yet why is this occuring vice versa? It's unfortunate, the Linux community is also very plagued by the '14 year old zit-faced kids who just installed RedHat, and want to "hax teh g1bs0n."' (I've taken enough abuse from the Linux crowd, talking about "Fat, unwashed, Star Trek watching *BSD nerds" to justify that last comment.) Which is one reason I don't ever want them crossing over to the FreeBSD crowd, thus if we have less 'market share', in that respect it's a VERY GOOD THING(tm).
Many of my sysadmin friends run purely Linux based networks(server-side), and when I ask why they don't even try a *BSD, the common answer I've received is, "It's too hard." Which in turn makes me chuckle to myself because they're really missing out on something great. I don't make fun of them and/or their networks, nor try to say they're running an antiquated or conviluted system. (To say FreeBSD is either of these, is to deny the facts.) To each his own, and if they choose to live in ignorance, MORE POWER TO THEM, it's their prerogative.
We were around in 1992, and we'll continue to be, regardless what the slashdot trolls attentively (or not so attentively..) splurge in digital form.
-mpf
P.S. I wonder how long Yahoo!(tm) will run a dead operating system (FreeBSD) across it's server pools?
( Next time don't post out of date,
BSD addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a BSD over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
I think you need to check your facts again. Did you just actually say "Cheaper"? Oh you make me laugh. (The "faster" and "stable" comments are even funnier.)
See NetCraft For proof of what is more stable.
Just because you're unable to comprehend how to utilize BSD, doesn't in any way lesser it's value, to anyone but you. All the same, if some Windows user tried to use Linux, and was completely lost, You'd just flame him and tell him to "get a clue" or "rtfm". The person who's too uneducated to utilize it, is the only one who's missing out.
There's more reasons than I can list, I've been running *BSD variants since 1993, and Linux (before any distributions existed) since 0.99. BSD is cleaner, the -core teams usually have brighter developers on them, FreeBSD ports are still number 1, the BSD layout is just far superior IMHO, (I usually tend to run slackware, which is the closest to BSD you can get in a Linux basically) my memory footprint is slightly over 3 MB on most of my servers, with a minimal set of services running, (obviously my mysql, apache, and such servers eat more due to the daemons tieing it up) and the list continues on.
Don't flame BSD because you can't figure it out.
Sounds like a personal problem.
-mpf