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USAF Wants To Find Steganographic Content

Bud Higgins writes "The U.S. Air Force has posted a Small Business Technology Transfer Program (STTR) solicitation in which they seek proposals for the automated detection of steganographic content. They seek an application that should run both unobtrusively in the background and in a manual mode, and provide the user the capability to scan all email attachments, downloaded materials and accessed files with an appropriate steganalysis algorithm, reporting any abnormal results (i.e. the presence of steganography). I personally don't think that is feasible, but maybe a good programmer can prove me wrong. A link to the solicitation AF04-T008 can be found here. For those who are not familiar with the SBIR/STTR program, it provides up to $850k for 3 years of research." This sounds very similar to what Niels Provos did over a several-year period at University of Michigan's CITI and released under a free license. I hope the USAF doesn't spend too much of my money without considering extending that research.

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  1. Feasible? by jmv · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...reporting any abnormal results (i.e. the presence of steganography). I personally don't think that is feasible...

    I think it probably depends on where you hide the data. For instance, it's probably harder to hide data in the LSBs of an image than, e.g. a file that's supposed to be white noise ("Hey, my mic doesn't work, it only records noise. See for yourself"). Of course, the less data you encode, the harder it is to detect it.

    1. Re:Feasible? by RomulusNR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh, sure, the "this is supposed to be random noise" trick will work about as long as the average spam-filter-avoidance trick lasts.

      "The enemy is sending out an abnormally large amount of random noise data. Must just be having microphone trouble. Nothing to see here."

      Roger that.

      No +1, cause I've been drinking...

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    2. Re:Feasible? by eguaj · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why bother with cryptography/steganography/etc. when you can use slashdotography ?

      You simply post your message in clear form in the comments of a "highly trollistic" news, and your message will automatically become hidden and indetectable with all the noise surrounding it.

  2. Hrm by Cave+Dweller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those of you paranoid enough will probably chime in with something along the lines of "Yeah, but Echelon probably has something like this built-in already!". Anyway, isn't the point of steganography to hide information in such a way that you *cannot reliably* tell whether the information was there in the first place?

    I'm not sure what they're looking for here; perhaps a better steganography algorithm?

    1. Re:Hrm by johannesg · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They might be looking for an algorithm that establishes just how random the "random bits" of a file are. For example, you would expect the least significant bits in a jpeg to be more or less random - any degree of organisation there could be a hidden text or something else.

      I would expect such an argument to have specific knowledge of various file formats, since randomness in a jpeg is not quite the same as randomness in for example a .EXE file.

      I would further expect that my approach would be soundly defeated by first encrypting the information to be hidden, since encrypted data looks a lot more random than normal data anyway.

      Personally I doubt it can be done. You might be able to defeat specific steganographic algorithms, but the general case cannot be solved. It would be a bit like having a universal decryption algorithm...

    2. Re:Hrm by Ugmo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would further expect that my approach would be soundly defeated by first encrypting the information to be hidden, since encrypted data looks a lot more random than normal data anyway.

      It would still be somewhat valuable to know that encrypted messages were being sent even if you do not know what the content is. If you know bad guy #1 is posting some steg encoded pictures on his porn site and bad guy #2 visits it on a regular basis (along with 1000's of other non-bad guys) you could at least get a clue that something is up if bad guy#1 changes the frequency or number of his updates. In short, traffic analysis.

      If you cannot detect any kind of steg whatsoever, you can't even get this info.

    3. Re:Hrm by starm_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually this is not a good method. The least significant bit of text is not less random than images. It is often even more random.

      I have read a paper on this and they used the opposite method than what you propose. They assumed images have sections which are not very random. (most images contains some areas with uniform color) If the least significant byte of an image is very random compared to the other bytes it can indicate steganography.

      Of course you have to ajust the thresholds to account fo the differecence in randomness due to the different image compression algorithms.

      Also you get a lot of false positive if the image has been taken with a inexpensive digital cameras. These cameras will put some noise in the whole image which makes it look like there migh be a message in there.

      anyways this technique can filter out a bunch of images (something like 50%) that you can be pretty sure contains no steganogrphy. But the other 50% I don't know how you would find out.

      The task is very hard when the hidden text has been encripted prior to encoding in the image, so you can't look for patters inherent in text.

  3. SBIR/STTR program by Wavicle · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work for a company that is funded through a SBIR grant, so on behalf of the company I work for and to all tax paying Americans let me just say: Thank You!

    It really is an interesting government program. All the IP we generate with the money stays with us. However in the interest of equitable return to the taxpayer, we have decided to release all of our core software components GPL. (Okay, okay this also helps when it comes time for our semi-annual review, to show that we aren't just soaking the taxpayers.) We hope to turn a profit partially by our user interface components (non-core code that we are not releasing) and also through support.

    Trying to get one of these grants is highly competitive, but if you have a really good idea and don't want the vulture capitalists to "fund" you, this is a great program.

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  4. stego wrapped pgp by Macgyver7017 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe statistical analysis can determine if a given image or other medium is possibly hiding information. But if that information is encrypted, doesn't it look like random data without the key? Without knowing the key or even the cipher used to encrypt it... how can it be shown to actually be information? "That's just random noise/corruption in my images your honor... I dont know what your talking about"

    1. Re:stego wrapped pgp by Ronald+Dumsfeld · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Maybe statistical analysis can determine if a given image or other medium is possibly hiding information. But if that information is encrypted, doesn't it look like random data without the key? Without knowing the key or even the cipher used to encrypt it... how can it be shown to actually be information? "That's just random noise/corruption in my images your honor... I dont know what your talking about"

      Statistical analysis can indeed detect where hidden information is placed into an image, usually by noticing that the balance of the image is off. In fact, using encrypted data is more likely to stand out because images are not usually populated with statistically random data.

      Here's a piece on scanning Usenet for hidden images. As a broadcast medium you'd expect it to be most frequently used as you can anonymously post material and it is well-nigh impossible to locate the intended recipient.
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  5. Well I hope it's better than stegdetect then... by argan0n · · Score: 5, Informative

    As stegdetect (last time I checked) easily fails on files created with steghide

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  6. Wonder why Air Force by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The Air Force has always been at the fore front of technological thought within the military. I've been Air Force since 1984, and currently work in Information Management, although my first career field was Fire Fighting, I cross trained into IT in 1998. I work with many first class programmers and network guys, most of them classic "hackers". It does not surprise me they are looking at this.

    One thing that does surprise me is that they have allowed the Air Force guys to look at this at all, it seems much more like an Army or NSA thing.

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  7. Re:Oh yeah? by Soko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Take off the tinfoil hat, dude. Checking all pics on the net for steganographic info is virtually impossible - just too much info to sort through in a reasonable time frame.

    They likley want this to scan documents leaving thier internal network in an attempt to catch people who are sending out sensitive or secret info. To me this looks like the USAF is plugging a leak, not going on the hunt.

    Soko

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  8. I can tell you right now it's still far off. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    In "Unification" (Star Trek episode 108), the cloaked Klingon ship that delivers Picard and Spock into Romulan territory sends a coded message to Enterprise that is piggybacked on surrounding Romulan transmissions. If the Romulans were not able to discover this in their time, what makes the USAF think they'll be able to do it now?

  9. Interesting by arvindn · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Looks like detection of steganographic content might be a significantly easier problem than decoding it. The reason is that normal compressed images don't have redundancy -- i.e, the image file size is no larger than it needs to be for the quality (information content) that it has. But embedding a message introduces redundancy, by an amount proportional to the capacity of the stego system. This can be detected, the programmer only needs to have a good grasp of the image format, domain transformation techniques etc.

    But I had a this little idea. Suppose we "pollute" normal images with random data with say 1% redundancy. What I mean is, whenever you create an image you take some random data and steganographically embed it in the image. Write a gimp plugin or something so that the process is transparent and automatic. Your file only becomes 1% bigger, so its no big deal. Not everyone needs to do this, just sufficiently many people so that the vast majority of the positives of stego detection systems are going to be false positives. As long as the message is encrypted before embedding, it is provably impossible to tell a genuine stego image from a false positive, assuming that the underlying encryption isn't broken. So you get a secure stegosystem with 1% efficiency "for free".

    [dons tinfoil hat]

    We'd all better soon start doing something like this, given where governments are going.

    /me runs off to patent office

    1. Re:Interesting by saforrest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But embedding a message introduces redundancy, by an amount proportional to the capacity of the stego system.

      I don't think you mean 'redundancy' here, since the added data is obviously not redundant. It can't be, since it has to encode the steganographic message.

      I think you mean 'apparent redundancy', i.e. the container file would appear to be redundant to someone who doesn't know there's a secret message since it's larger than it needs to be.

      However, this problem can be avoided if the encoder simply chooses a steganographic method which does not increase container size. As a trivial example of this idea, consider

      this stegangraphic tool I wrote which is based on permuting HTML tag attributes.

      Clearly, tag attributes must have some fixed order when written into a file. My program simply permutes them in a specific way within the file, thus encoding content without increasing container size.

      The general idea is to make use of the existing redundancy of the container to encode data. The one caveat here is that the amount of container redundancy is bounded above by the size of the container, so there is a fixed maximum amount of data that can be encoded.

    2. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, if the plugin uses a good enough random source then it's not possible to distinguish the results from good steganography. That's kind of the point. The problem that the original poster is trying to solve is that good steganography is too good at looking like completely random data, and there's not that much completely random data when real-world codecs and image formats are involved...

  10. Perfect Programming is not needed for it to work by leoaugust · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I personally don't think that is feasible, but maybe a good programmer can prove me wrong.

    The "solution" can be implemented with the current laws and regulations, and I think the programmer is only a small part to make this system work. A lot of enforcement authorities have to come together and the current evidence suggests that they will come together. Of course, it is a moot point that by the time they figure this out, people would have learned to hide data in other creative ways - the eternal cat-and-rat game ...

    Consider this

    the automated detection of steganographic content.

    If Adobe (and others) could be forced to include in their code methods to detect currencies Slashdot | Photoshop CS Adds Banknote Image Detection, Blocking? and not disclose it till they were caught by some vigilant users, what makes us so smug that other major companies with "closed" software are not already in-bed-with-the-feds ? So, it is conceivable that the automatic detection may be going on and we wouldn't be any wiser.

    They seek an application that should run both unobtrusively in the background and in a manual mode,

    See the Adobe example of how such "spyware" can be forced to run "unobtrusively."

    and provide the user the capability to scan all email attachments, downloaded materials and accessed files with an appropriate steganalysis algorithm,

    Major Email providers like Yahoo and Hotmail already provide automatic scanning for virus, AOL is including automatic scanning for spyware, MicroTrend (?) already has Online Virus Scanning of your Hard Drive (!), and so under the threat of the Patriot Act (and it's ilk) many of these companies can be forced to scan everything that goes in and out of their systems.

    reporting any abnormal results (i.e. the presence of steganography).

    This is the key. Now the threshold for "abnormal" has been reduced so much (almanac carriers as potential terrorists, CAPPS passenger detection based on names and 15 flights were cancelled last month based on this, anti-war protestors as possible terrorists and hence being tailed by the Feds etc.) that the problem of false alarms no longer dogs the current administration and law enforcement agencies.

    This is the crux. When the error threshold is reduced so much that the high rates of error are no longer problematic, then any solution (whether efficient or not) can be implemented. Who cares whether it works well or not. Till now the false alarms were the things that stopped such 1984-ish like scenarios from unfolding. Once you accept high errors, and accept even high collatoral damage as the price of doing "business," you can have a solution to almost anything implemented - whether it deserves to be implemented or not is a whole different issue. But who cares? You got nothing to hide - Right?

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  11. Finally... by FooGoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    A use for the code I wrote to sort porn based on image content. I can see it now. Project JISM: Joint Image Statistical Modeling. Any my mom said my chronic masterbation wouldn't get me anywhere.

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    1. Re:Finally... by Tokerat · · Score: 3, Funny

      by FooGoo (98336) on 05:13 AM EST -- Sunday January 11 2004

      A use for the code I wrote to sort porn based on image content. I can see it now. Project JISM: Joint Image Statistical Modeling. Any my mom said my chronic masterbation wouldn't get me anywhere.
      Up all night doing research, I see? ;-)
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  12. Strong crypto should look not unlike random noise by Nonesuch · · Score: 4, Informative
    Maybe statistical analysis can determine if a given image or other medium is possibly hiding information. But if that information is encrypted, doesn't it look like random data without the key?
    Yes. One quick-and-dirty test of the strength of a cryptographic algorithm or hash function is that the output appears random, and a small change in the input results in a large change in the output.

    If the steg'd data has obvious headers and block formatting, a weak algorithm could leave enough of a pattern in the output file to be detectable. And of course some applications of stego are used to embed cleartext data...

    Without knowing the key or even the cipher used to encrypt it... how can it be shown to actually be information? "That's just random noise/corruption in my images your honor... I dont know what your talking about"
    Proponents of stego sometimes suggest it's use in environments where even the suspicion of crypto is enough to risk persecution and/or prosecution.

    The other "trick" to detecting stego is that "normal" JPG/BMP/WAV/MP3/AVI/MPEG files tend to not actually show a high degree of random noise -- the seemingly random data in the LSB tends to have a pattern imposed by the encoder used and the input device.

    I'd guess that this problem is more of an issue on highly-processed information from clean sources. You wouldn't expect random noise on an MP3 file ripped off the latest pop album release, but it wouldn't be out of place on a .SHN "bootleg" recording of a TMBG live concert from a handheld DAT recorder...

  13. The end user doesn't need protection... by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... from stenographic content. Either he knows it's there (so he won't report it, surely) or he doesn't know (so he does not extract the potentially dangerous content). A scan for steganographic content should be performed by ISPs or by something like carnivore.

    Anyway the USAF initiative is more clever than it seems, because vital steganographic content (terrorist plans and so) must be hidden in "popular" files, to make it hard for the good guys to find out the intended audience of the message. So a user level scan might be somewhat helpful.

    It will also give a good excuse to people caught surfing for porn ("I am just helping out the USAF, dear!").

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  14. steganography vs. compression by graf0z · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The basic problem with steganography is that it hides content in noise but compression reduces noise.

    It is easy to 'steganohide' content in uncompressed noisy files like tiff or wav. But that content gets destroyed by lossfull compression which is mainly used by multimedia formats (jpeg, mpeg, divx, mpg3, ...). If not, it's called a watermark, but (un)fortunately nobody found a watermark algorithm yet which is robust against lossfull codecs and adding some more noise.

    So You have to steganohide Your content after compressing. But compressed files have much less noise, and that noise is not random noise but has statistical quirks. If You just hide Your content as white noise and add it to the file - thats detectable, because it changes the statistical behaviour of the file!

    Instead You have to write an specific steganografic algorithm for each lossfull compression format You want to hide content in! It has to respect the 'format noise character'. That's what Niels Provos did for pnm and jpeg with outguess.

    /graf0z.

    1. Re:steganography vs. compression by graf0z · · Score: 4, Informative
      [...]compressed files have much less noise[...]

      To be precise: they have much more noise, but You can only use a fraction of that noise for steganography. Otherwise You would destroy or significantly alter the original content of the compressed file.

      /graf0z.

  15. Here's an ineresting little by freidog · · Score: 5, Informative

    paper (pdf) on detection of steganographic messages based on simple statistical analisys of the image. It seems to work well against 2 of the 3 major steganographic endodings they tried.

  16. Patterns In The Static by shadowcabbit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For any such system to work, it would have to basically be the greatest code-cracking machine on the face of the planet. More than that, though, would be the implications of false-positives. Let's say I send a photoshopped picture of, oh, I don't know, Natalie Portman to a buddy who works for the Air Force. The system, working under the operating parameters it's set to work with, picks up on a specific pattern of bits in the picture and determines that it's a coded message. The coded message is decoded to, inexplicably, reveal GPS coordinates, a date/timestamp, and the phrase "Free XXXXXX" (or some equally suspect verbiage). What would YOU think the "message" meant?

    Given enough processing power, even /dev/rand can produce terrorist messages. It's the million-monkey problem, except with thermonuclear weapons.

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  17. US Gov sponsored DRM by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Imagine if seganographic checking software was to be mandatory on all computers containing DRM. And, removing it would be a felon. Remember boys and girls, owning a computer is a privilege, not a "right".

    Think it can't happen? Think again, we have the Patriot Act as the front runner for this kinda shit. Seriously, I'm voting Libertarian this election. I'm tired of the same old Demo/Repub bull shit!! Arrtrrggghhhhhhaaaa

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  18. Re:how stegged is stegged? by theLOUDroom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is trivial to write a program to discover content that has been stegged. A jpeg with hidden content would be quite easy to find if the areas with content where significantly different from those without. The problem comes when the data is similar to the carrier.

    It's only trivial if they we using the most basic method possible and you had some idea what the data you were looking for was like.

    If just I straight-up encode a bunch of dictionary words into the LSB's in a black and white bitmap, then you could easily find them.
    If distort the image using a fractal pattern as my method of encoding and the original data source is compressed and encrypted as part of the operation, it's not trivial anymore, is it?

    .....damn, fractal-based stenography I wonder if anybody's using it?

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  19. Rubbish by dmiller · · Score: 5, Informative
    It is trivial to write a program to discover content that has been stegged. A jpeg with hidden content would be quite easy to find if the areas with content where significantly different from those without.

    The point of steganography is to hide information so that its presence cannot be detected. This means hiding information below the noise floor of the media. Information hidden in this way cannot be practically detected, assuming the stego is halfway decent, and the message to be hidden appears random (easily accomplished by encrypting it first).

    Sure, *if* you had access to the unaltered original, then you could detect that it had been altered, but any competent steganographer would encrypt the hidden information first.

    It would be possible with time and processing power to dicover what bits where stegged if you used /dev/urandom to get the data.

    This sentence demonstrates that you don't understand either /dev/urandom or steganography.

    Knowing your processor type and kernel implientation the powers that be could find patterns in the data and look for those (or absence of those) in your message. But if the randomness is of a natural type then the difficulty increases by a massive amount.

    More mis-informed rubbish - kernel implementation and processor type have little to do with the algorithms underlying the /dev/urandom implementation. Furthermore, /dev/urandom is based on "natural type" entropy (i.e randomness derived from unpredicable physical processes).

    So if you have to hide something from the feds then become a scientist and collect lots of data from nature. It should have an element of randomness that allows you to steg your secrets in the data.

    or, you could go and take a regular photo. Plenty of real, nature-derived randomess there.

  20. In general it's feasable though by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In audio that is. SAy you decide to start hiding stuff in live performance music, as in fan recorded data. Much of that is distributed in 24-bit format since we are talking about hardcore people here. Well, this is good already, seeing as you aren't going to find 24-bit converters that really get 24-bits of SNR. So you have plenty of inherant noise to begin with. Add to that the noise of a concert and you've plenty to mask the signal with.

  21. Of course this is feasable! by jetmarc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > I personally don't think that is feasible

    Of course this is feasable! At least with todays steganography software.

    What the software does, is to overwrite appearently insignificant portions of the "container" data (the audio/picture/text/whatever file that transports the smaller hidden file). The steganographers say (rightfully) that, by encrypting the hidden data with a strong-enough algorithm, it is indistinguishable from random data. Ie, no one (without the key used for encryption) would be able to tell if it's encrypted data, or perfectly random data.

    However, the programmers of steganographic software now go one step further and say (wrongly!) that images and audio files carry random noise in their least significant bits (LSB). Certainly, the lowest of those 16 bits of CD quality audio does not carry much data. And granted, 16 bits give 96dB of dynamic range while analog master tapes (studio quality) only have about 80dB, and microphone technology hardly touches 96dB. The LSB of an audio wave file definately is noisy, no doubt about that.

    But (big "BUT"), it is far from being perfectly random. In the LSB you might find 50Hz/60Hz hiss from the buildings electric cabeling. You might find characteristic noise that's typical for your brand of microphone, or even a kind of "noise fingerprint" that could be used to distinguish your microphone from others of the same brand (much like crime investigators can distinguish typewriters by analyzing the blackmail letter). Actually, an experiment showed that when cutting all but the LSB of a music wave file, the tune remains still recognizable!

    What the stego programmers do is to replace that LSB (or even 4 least significant bits) with perfectly (pseudo) random data. That's a difference! I can just cut all but the LSB and check if it statistically matches perfect random data (whitenoise) or if "some of" the music tune is "somehow" in there (eg by correlation, a DSP technique).

    The same applies for pictures. If the pictures were scanned, the lower bits will contain artefacts characteristic to the particular scanner used. Digital photos exhibit "signatures" of the CCD/CMOS chip used in the digicam. Etc.

    The steganographers know this, while the programmers of stegano software deliberately ignores it. It's a solvable problem, but infinitely difficult. If you know what the stegano-detection software is looking for, you can easily avoid it. Just encrypt your hidden data to "perfect random" and then transform it (by adding data, thus loosing efficiency) to exhibit almost the same "fingerprint" signature as the data you are going to overwrite. In case of an audio wave file, impress a bit of the tune on your data.

    But obviously, you can't reach perfection, because a 100% match means that you overwrite the original data with a 100% copy of it (-> you have stored 0 bytes of hidden data). Or you know how the detector works, what tresholds it uses to bin the file as "steganographic", and stay a little below the treshold. But that puts you on the risky side.. Will they change the tresholds? Will they check for other characteristics as well, something that you didn't address in your steganographic software?

    That's why the steganographic programmers (not researchers!) ignore this problem. It has no practical solution. It's so much easier to just ignore it, and offer you the choice between 4 and 8 bits of hidden data per 16 bits of wave data (like eg "Scramdisk" does, a recommendable harddisk encryption software). This is better than nothing, but it is far from "not feasable" to detect!

    Marc

  22. I don't think this can possibly work. by dirt_puppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As others stated, (as always in cryptography) if the stegging user isn't stupid (means he would encode before steg), the data to be stegged would be as random as the data that you steg it in. There is no possibility to tell one set of random data from another set of random data. I think they do it for discovering stupid spys.

    1. Re:I don't think this can possibly work. by JKR · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The problem is that emailing streams of random data around looks pretty suspicious. You want to hide random-looking data in a NON-random stream (that has a legitimate purpose, e.g. an image file). THAT's why you can detect it.

      Even random data has to fit in. For example, it used to be the case that the A/D stage of some cheap sound cards was so noisy that the recording from line-in gave you a 16 bit audio sample stream with the bottom 4 bits effectively random(like dithering but much much worse.) However, the noise (while random in nature) was shaped in a particular way, so if you just hide your encrypted secrets in those 4 bits it would be obvious that the "noise" wasn't appropriate.

      Jon.

  23. Re:Oh yeah? by SlashdotLemming · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They likley want this to scan documents leaving thier internal network in an attempt to catch people who are sending out sensitive or secret info. To me this looks like the USAF is plugging a leak, not going on the hunt.

    That's exactly one of the reasons for the technology. The DoD has an obligation to protect sensitive information. There are a crazy number of hoops that need to be gone through to get unclassified info off of a classified system. They can't have people encoding stuff in pictures of Barney then walking away with it.

    I know the usual paranoids are up in arms about the AF doing this, but the same people would flood "The DoD is so stupid" if it were found out that people were abusing the technology to transport classified info.

  24. Establishing innocence on false positives--how? by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In these days when the FBI thinks possession of an almanac makes you suspicious...what happens to you if some half-baked experimental steganography-detection program looks at billions of .jpgs, gets to an image you've included in an eBay auction descriptions, and detects some not-quite-decodable signal just above the noise that it interprets "there's definitely something hidden in that image, even though we can't tell what?"

    How do you prove that you're innocent?

    How do you prove that your image does NOT contain steganography?

    Worse yet, suppose you are using steganography--say, a watermark to prevent people from stealing your image. Will the FBI believe what you tell them is the decoded content?

    I mean, a few decades ago some nutcase analyzed Shakespeare's First Folio and decided that it was printed in a mixture of two slightly different fonts that constituted a binary code with a message proving that it had been written by Sir Francis Bacon. (No kidding). That proves that it's easy for someone who's looking for steganography to find it, whether it's there or not.

  25. Not quite that easy by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with the LSBs of an image is that they aren't quite random. Unless the image is raytraced or otherwise artificially produced, there's a fair amount of order there. Even a raytraced image might not be quite random.

    The same holds with audio. For instance, crypted data is white noise, but concert noise is "pink noise" which has a characteristic spectrum. The noise produced by converters is closer to white, but it isn't quite either. People like Neils Provos have been studying this for a while, trying to find out which bits they can change without altering the statistics of the image or audio, but with limited success. As of last year (don't know how it is this year), all published steganography schemes at least a few months old had been broken.

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