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A Terabyte In A Cigar Box

Anonymous Howard writes "LaCie has introduced a 1 Terabyte (capacity) disk for (get this) only $1,199.00!(USD) It is external and equipped with FireWire 800, FireWire 400, iLink/DV, Hi-Speed USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 to connect to both PC and Mac. Take a look here."

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  1. Not a 1TB *disk* by djrogers · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a 1TB array in a box (just look at the dimensions and weight if ya doubt it)... Not that it really matters - heck it's way cool..

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  2. Yes Linux Driver by gearheadsmp · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kernel 2.4 and up has USB 2.0 and Firewire support for Mass Storage Devices.

  3. Re:Missing bytes growing fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Technically:
    1000000000000 Bytes are:
    976562500 KiB
    953674 MiB
    931 GiB .909 TiB

  4. Re:Missing bytes growing fast by wwest4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    oh, you mean you want a 1 TiB array.

  5. Re:Slow interface = bottleneck by tvh2k · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ugh...correction. The drive's 1TB, not 1TiB. Thats like 90GB lost to marketing!

  6. Re:No, only 0.9094 TB by sciwhiz007 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know, I know, I'm nitpicking.

    1 TB (terabyte) = 10^12 bytes, NOT 2^40 bytes. 2^40 bytes is represented by a value known as a Tebibyte.

    Don't believe me? Check out http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html or google's cache at http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:lbDn9HCN0SAJ:p hysics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html+gibibyte+sit e:gov&hl=en&start=1&ie=UTF-8

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  7. It's LaCie... Good luck getting it to work by Silicon+Knight · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can't speak to the Mac compatability since I don't have any, but getting LaCie external drives to work on PCs is an exercise in frustration.

    My shop picked up one of their external firewire tape drives for backing up a win2k server. Spent a couple days trying to get it to work with any of several backup software packages. Called them and was told that it's only supported with one backup program on Win2k.

    Swapped it (they wouldn't refund our money) for an external firewire DVD burner. The DVD burner works most of the time but it's extremely slow and the system (we've tried it on several) occasionally decides it doesn't exist.

  8. Re:USB 1.1? by cybermace5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well you see, it actually has USB 1.1. But for your convenience, to copy one of these over a Hayes 300 baud modem would take: 300 baud == 30 cps == 30 bytes per second into 1e12 == 33333333333 seconds == 555555555 minutes == 9259259 hours == 385802 days == 1057 years == 1.057 millenia.

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  9. Re:Unprecedented by thebatlab · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not sure what your definition of "unprecedented" is but....http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=un precedented&r=67

    It has nothing to do with whether it was predicted to happen :S

  10. Available in what quantity? by jcc · · Score: 3, Informative

    We use LaCie external drives all the time to ship data (FedEX is faster that 100Mbs coast to coast).

    I recently tried to buy a couple of the 500GB "big disks" but they were out of stock everywhere, so had to settle for the 320GB version (2 160GB drives in a box). They must be connected with striping, because the I/O is a lot faster that single disks.

    4 drives may be even better, but don't count on them being available in quantity in February. That's when you can start to back order them.

  11. Re:Sorry.. by xmedar · · Score: 3, Informative

    More AD, as it's not Inexpensive, 4 x $169 (cheapest quote on pricewatch.com for 250GB drives) = $507 that leaves $692 for the interface electronics and profit, now if it had 5 drives arranged as a RAID 5 array that would be nearer the mark, right now you'd paying over the odds for this, even though it comes in a nice shiny box.

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  12. Re:Missing bytes growing fast by Espectr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The international system concluded in 1998 that mega,giga,kilo,tera,etc are base 10, therefore people that think that 1kb is 1024 bytes are wrong.

    So, there is no bytes lost to marketing. Learn to use MiB and other units properly

  13. Re:So many ports! by zachlipton · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I'm sure you intended this as a joke, it actually does come with a screwdriver I believe, just not a Philips-head. LaCie drives ship with a torx-headed screwdriver to attach the stand to the bottom of the disk (it can be removed for stacking). I'm pretty sure this is true of the BigDisk line as well (though I only own one of the smaller disks from them).

  14. Re:wow... - take a stats course by wfeick · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, but that's not the way the statistics work. The probability of a failure on a single drive is a cumulative distribution function. The longer the drive has been running, the higher the probability of a failure. Also, it's not linear. There are usually a few failures early in life, then relatively few for a long period of time, and then a bunch of failures again clustered around some point in time. It's kind of like a poisson distribution, but with a long head instead of a long tail. When the manufacturer reports MTBF, I suspect they're talking about where the mean point is on this curve (i.e. at what point in time have 50% of the drives failed). I don't work in the storage industry, so this is just an educated guess. Someone will probably correct me on this. Now, if you want to figure out the cumulative distribution function for a bunch of disks, you can't simply divide the MTBF by the number of disks. Instead, the probability of at least one drive failure is calculated as one minus the probability that none of the drives have failed. So, if there's a 10% chance that a single drive fails within the first year, the probability of at least one failure in a 4 drive box within that same year is 1 - .9^4 = .6.

  15. Nice box by majid · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had the opportunity to see one at MacWorld. They are very hefty and made of ultra-heavy gauge aluminum (feels more solid than the G5 case). Also very heavy.

    The aluminum case is not enough to dissipate the heat generated by the 4 drives, so they also have a fan, but it is a very quiet one (as much as one can jusdge such a thing in a trade show).

    The case is also available in a 2 drive 1/2 terabyte version for around $600.

  16. Re:Or, make one yourself. by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative
    Enclosure ~= $150

    That $150 enclosure supports ONLY 2 IDE drives, so you're going to need a more expensive enclosure to do the job.

    250 GB drives (YMMV) ~= 4x$170

    All well and good, but if you've got no case to put them in, no-dice.
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  17. lousy idea by ajagci · · Score: 3, Informative

    This has to be 3-4 drives in a box without replication or redundancy (since you can't swap anything). That means you just greatly increased your risk of losing a whole lot of data at once because if any one drive goes, all your data is gone.

    Get a real RAID drive or separate disks and you'll have more safety and more flexibility.