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Apple Introduces Logic Pro 6 and Logic Express
dark_lotus writes "Apple introduces Logic Pro 6 and Logic Express. This brings Apple's audio offerings (GarageBand, Logic Express, and Logic Pro)
to a similar setup with its three levels of video editors (iMovie,
Final Cut Express, and Final Cut Pro). Logic Pro boasts new innovative software instruments, including Sculpture, a new component-modeling based synthesizer, and UltraBeat, a deep and rich percussion synthesizer that provides multiple synthesis techniques for generating every type of electronic or acoustic drum sound imaginable. You can read the press releases for the Preview of Logic and the announcement of Logic Pro and Logic Express. Logic Pro is priced at US$999, while Logic Express is priced at US$299. Today is also the launch of iLife '04 which comes with GarageBand, the new iLife app for music creation."
I would have preferred to see Apple keep the Silver, Gold and Platinum pricing system for Logic - Gold was around $499 when I bought it, a decent compromise, especially when I didn't need the extra features (eg, 5.1 capability) that Platinum editions provided. However, this means I either spend $999 (which I can't really afford), or $299 for something that won't have the features I need.
I run the largest logic forums on the net...if you are interested in this product past the stuff you will no doubt be reading here, check out Sonikmatter.com.
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http://community.sonikmatter.com/cgi-bin/emagic
Lots of good information from the guys at Emagic as well as a few guys from Apple (not that many say who they are lest they are harrassed by the users there
Check it out when ya get a chance...
BTW -- these aren't new products by ANY means, just a repricing / consolidation of the apps, and a rebundling of Logic 6 Platnium w/all the plugins built in (for Logic Pro).
Clif
Sonikmatter: Mind + Music + Technology
I heard that eMagic/Apple previewed for a couple of people the next generation of Logic aka Logic 7. Sounds interesting indeed, but I can't find any information on what the presentation might have had. Anybody got any luck?
What's so bad about being lazy? What if there was a war and nobody showed up?
...mainly to get GarageBand. I'm a bass player and I want to use it for practice when a "real" band is not available. If that goes well, I will probably upgrade to Logic Express the same way I am upgrading to Final Cut Express 2. How do the hard core Logic users feel about Apple controlling Logic so far? Do you welcome your Apple overlords? ;)
With all these multimedia apps, it would be great to have one of these iLife enabled Macs next to my TV.
If I could hook it up to the TV and the stereo, I'd have streaming audio, a CD player, DVD player... thought I saw a radio receiver card somewhere. I could replace many apps with a single device.
But the footprint of the Macs are too big for this sort of application. Wonder if they're going to work on that next...
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
Now no more, I went to an apple shop today, there are logic audio screenshots everywhere on the flyers. Same thing at the applestore iirc. Apple must have given them serious money for exclusivity...
Which gives me one more reason to buy a powerbook. Aaaah it hurts, I want one noooow !
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Still 3000 euros to donate, please hurry !
It's also interesting to note that Apple lowered the price of Soundtrack to $199 (from $299). Though Soundtrack is marketed more as an accessory to Final Cut Pro, it still features all of the Apple Loop whatsits that work in GarageBand and have been wedged into the new Logic offerings. In this iLife/Express/Pro product matrix for audio and video, I wonder where this leaves Soundtrack.
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Cheese it! It's the FEDS!
Does anyone know if when Logic Pro is launched (March) if Apple will be offering discounted crossgrades from other products? I've looked around but can't find anything.
I presently use Cubase VST/32 on the PC, but am about to switch my studio setup to a G5.
I have money burning a hole in my bank account, however the G5's are rumoured to get a speed bump "on or after the 20th Jan" and so obviously I'm waiting a few days.
Also NAMM is on in the US at the moment which basically means its a bad time to buy anything audio related as if manufacturers are going to launch new products, it's now.
I was going to upgrade to CubaseSX2.0 as Steinberg are rather generously providing PC and Mac versions of their software at the moment on the same CD meaning that this is a great time to switch, however there is a long standing graphics bug (5 months and counting) with SX2.0 and Panther which I am not impressed with. Yes I can get around it by running Jaguar 10.2.8 on the G5, however it's going to come with Panther pre-installed.
If Apple do offer a nicely priced crossgrade, I will be giving serious thought to switching to Logic Pro.
has anyone noticed that they've digitally altered the main charecter so that she is WEARING AN IPOD!!!!
It could have been worse: they could have replaced the sledgehammer with a walkie-talkie.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Dimensions:
1.73 inches (4.4 cm) high by 17.6 inches (44.7 cm) wide by 28 inches (71.1 cm) deep
Weight:
33 pounds (15.1 kg); 37 pounds (16.6 kg) with three Apple Drive Modules
That is pretty deep by home appliance comparison.
Originally, Ridley Scott had Anya, a model and former discus thrower, hurling a bat but it looked really dorky so they changed it to a sledgehammer. Smart move. There's a Making of 1984 QT movie that shows the make-up and wardrobe stuff and rehearsals for all of those skinheads they hired. Interesting stuff. Especially the skinheads checking out Anya. Dream on buddy.
OSXAudio.com (check the forums) has many reports that current Plat and Gold customers will be able to upgrade for $199. And that includes EVERYTHING. Older version will have a higher upgrade price to get current. Seems like a very good deal, especially for Gold owners.
I'm sure it is not sophisticated enough for most musicians who are used to editing/composing with computer assistance, but for me, GB is just right. The interface is clean and understandable and the samples are of very good quality. I'm even impressed with the quality of the software guitar amplifiers.
Just when I thought I couldn't have any more fun with my PowerBook, GB proves me wrong. I like being wrong like this.
Laws affecting technology will always be bad until enough techies become lawyers.
I have been waiting with great anticipation for GarageBand to arrive and after a night of playing with the program, I can say that it does not disappoint. It's 3:30 a.m. and I've just finished up my first two songs.
Follow this link to listen to the mp3 files and to download their GarageBand source.
Michael.
Linux : Mac
- GarageBand: Basic, entry-level music production. Supports "Apple Loops", a format of sample loop data. Ships with buttloads of plugins - more than Logic do at the moment, quite frankly - and has what appears to be an incredible sample and synthesis engine. Looks like baby versions of the ones to be included in Logic, actually. - Soundtrack: Audio editor/compositor, and loop manager. Supports loop-based audio editing, playback, and scoring. Supports video-scoring, which makes it good for doing video work with; one of the reasons it's shipped with Final Cut Pro 4. It is designed to be exactly what the name says: A supporting role for soundtrack creation, where the music, or its pieces, are already composed and prepared. While it supports composing, composing isn't its primary feature - and on the whole, GarageBand or Logic will be a better choice. If you need MIDI, GarageBand or Logic are your only choice. Logic: Entry-level pro editing... Comes with a playback-only version of the sampler (so no sample editing) and all of the other things that Logic Audio has traditionally shipped with. Unclear as to what other new functionality will be provided. GarageBand eats into this product on the low-end, with its additional plugins and support for the amp, but Logic has a lot more high-end features that you'd use if you spent a lot of time producing music, while still offering all of the basic capabilities that GarageBand does (except the plugins - but one can successfully argue that this market isn't necessarily going to mind). - Logic Pro. Everything that was in Logic Audio Platinum. Along with every plugin you used to buy separately, for another $1000. Basically, everything EMagic ever produced, in one box, with everything that apple's produced alongside them for the new series. The Rolls Royce of systems, by a very, very, very long way. Hell, that reverb alone is pretty much worth it. -
-- A mind is a terrible thing.
Meanwhile, Apple isn't going broke, so why go after the blissfully ignorant 98% who use Windows? :)
-- A mind is a terrible thing.
You call a Q1 revenue of $256,000,000 on the iPod alone marginal? Idiot. A look at Apple's Q1 sales, by the numbers
Soundtrack loops are on 1 4Gig DVD - 4 Gigs of loops not 9
LiveType install is 8 Gigs 2 4 Gig DVDs - 8 Gigs of Loops not 16
Yawn...
This town needs a village!
When you pay them One Million Dollars .
>Instead of attacking the business sector, where the real money and real market share are
Can you say Xserve and Xserve Raid?
>they keep on hitting the Planet Groovy crowd and reaping marginal revenues
Mindshare is up.
>new minis in multiple gay colors. Fags and girls listen to music too, is that ok. What should everyone be doing, please tell us.
>These new products don't mean shit, and the 2% of the market who think they do, don't mean shit either.
So perhaps people who post on this site don't mean "shit" like you for example.
I got Soundtrack and LiveType's install sizes mixed up - and notice I said total install 16GB, not just the linstall for LT.
FCP splits it all up anyway, so it's just a guess.
People have been complaining about them.. Ours has hit the floor 3-4 times before the ethernet jack broke and we wised up and went wireless. We've had it over 1.5 years now and its been great..