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SCO Wants to License Europe
MacEnvy writes "It looks like SCO isn't letting up - they've decided to expand their war on Linux to other countries. According to Internet Week, the company will be offering its Intellectual Property License in the UK and other European countries starting February 1. Whether Europeans will buy the licenses has yet to be seen." Motley Fool has chipped in on SCO's chances.
...is the Motley Fool article. A lot of people on Wall Street pay attention to them, or pay attention to people who pay attention to them. And they've said, pretty unequivocally, that things are looking very bad for SCO. That's not going to do nice things to SCO's stock price.
Well, we'll see, of course. Past performance does not guarantee future results, et cetera...
Practially, SCO is f*cked in Europe. In Germany, they are not allowed to say anything about their "intellectual property" or their license. Should they try out anything similar in any other European country, they can expect to get f*cked the very same way they were f*cked in Germany. Oh, I love European legislation... it doesn't give fraudulent companes like SCO any chance.
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
A list of the transactions taken by SCO's top brass since December is very telling. Sell, sell, sell. 1/07/04 THOMAS P RAIMONDI Director 11,841 Proposed Sale (Form 144) estimated proceeds of $213,138.00 1/07/04 THOMAS P RAIMONDI Director 11,841 Open Market Sale proceeds of $210,189.59 1/07/04 THOMAS P RAIMONDI Director 11,841 Exercise of Stock Options at cost of $13,261.92 12/29/03 R DUFF THOMPSON Director 10,000 Proposed Sale (Form 144) estimated proceeds of $173,400.00 12/29/03 R DUFF THOMPSON Director 10,000 Open Market Sale proceeds of $174,860.00 12/10/03 LARRY GASPARRO Divisional Officer 25,000 Proposed Sale (Form 144) estimated proceeds of $371,500.00 12/10/03 LARRY GASPARRO Divisional Officer 6,640 Open Market Sale proceeds of $100,190.25 12/10/03 LARRY GASPARRO Divisional Officer 6,640 Exercise of Stock Options at cost of $7,436.80
They couldn't sell or advertise their IP-license in Germany, because before they can do so, they have to prove that there is SCO-code in linux.
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There is an article about that on heise.de: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-15.01.04-0
"We are not even allowed to talk about it" said an SCO-spokesman over IDG NewsService. Poor SCO
What cost is he referring to here: "less expensive than the idemnification scheme"? What's the deal?
Well, if the end user chooses not to take SCO's deal, SCO effectively loses out on $699 (or whatever). So from SCO's perspective, Novell or IBM indemnification programs are more expensive than SCO licensing.
I know, the logic is flawed. But remember who we're dealing with here.
I am not completely familiar with this, but I believe that there is a general agreement in place that the international community attempts to enforce other countries' copyright violations. I believe that this was part of the Berne Convention (http://www.wipo.int/clea/docs/en/wo/wo001en.htm), assuming that you consider code a literary or artistic work which, in many cases, code is considered due to outdated laws in need of revision.
What SCO is doing here, however, is reprehensible. A company with any integrity would first legally prove that they own a copyright and give the offending parties a chance to correct said mistake, not try to build a business model out of lawsuits. What is worse is that SCO is not only making a business model out of lawsuits, but they are profiting through soliciting licensing from people to whom they owe proof of infringement, but refure to give!
I suspect that the international community will laugh at SCO when they try to enforce an unproven (and unlikely) claim of copyright violation.
Its becoming even more apparent that this is just a product of sleazy business tactics.
But the short answer to your question is that, if SCO were to prove (which they have yet to do) their claims, the international community might likely try to uphold that. However, they do not have to except in good faith. If they really wanted to, they could simply look at Mr. McBride and say "Bite me." Mr. McBride is setting SCO up to be crushed. Its just unfortunate that they can make money (by bullying with threats of licensing fees and lawsuits) through pumping and dumping their stock.
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"We are Linux. Resistance is measured in Ohms."
Yes, but I believe SUSE is/(are being) aquired by Novell and that group has already thrown their weight into the ring.
I kinda find the SCO thing funny as the more people they pester, the more end up joining the fight against them. Novell, IBM, OSDL has a lot of big names involved with it. They're doing quite well I think.
To me it is becoming apparent that the SCO fiasco against IBM and Linux is a diversion, which is covering up something even more insidious. SCO isn't even trying with respect to the court case and is focused mostly on making as much noise and involving as many parties as possible? Anyone have any guesses or insights as to what we might be missing?
Could it be as simple as ego? Is Bill Gates paying Daryl to replace him as the most hated man in high tech or, is this simply a scam to scare people away from using Linux? I just have a sinking feeling that the true enemy is about to sneak up behind us. Maybe I'm just paranoid but maybe, just maybe, I'm not paranoid enough.
So? Neither do I.
http://www.sco.com/company/jobs/
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I kid you not:
Software Engineer (05 Nov 2003)
Internal Audit (21 Nov 2003)
Director of Financial Reporting (08 Dec 2003)
Inside Sales Manager (09 Jan 2004)
Senior Software Engineer (13 Jan 2004)
Kinda tells a little story, doesn't it.
Scottish law probably states that whoever uses a name first gets ownership*. Likely the restaurant predated the fast-food chain's arrival in Scotland, which would give the chieftain the legal right to forbid the use by the chain. The same thing that happened with Budweiser in the Czech republic.
* I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on /.
And it's called the GPL.
.sig away, earning rent.
Speaking as an admin for some 130 linux boxes in The Netherlands I can assure SCO that they will be wasting their time. Mr. McBride can go and stick his license where the sun don't shine.
The second they start spewing their bullshit over here I will not be surprised when they get sued for slander (like in Germany), I know of several companies over here that are already preparing a combined legal strategy in case SCO starts getting uppity. There are a lot of large hosting providers and ISP's/ASP's around Amsterdam who rely heavily on Linux, there's no way they will allow SCO to intterrupt their business.
Actually, I can't wait for SCO to enter the justice system, dutch courts are very wary of corporate greed at the moment.
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Speaking of stock, 30+% of SCO stock is held by mutual funds and other institutional owners, so if you believe that SCO is going to lose this case, which seems likely, expect all the shareholders to take huge losses when this stock sinks. A look at the history of their stock shows it's way over-valued anyway. If you have annuities or mutual funds, you really need to find out if they have SCO in their portfolio cause you're going to get burned!
Capital Guardian Trust Company 1,177,800 8.51 $16,288,974 30-Sep-03
Integral Capital Management Vi, LLC 316,600 2.29 $4,378,578 30-Sep-03
Royce & Associates, Inc. 1,441,200 10.41 $19,931,796 30-Sep-03
Integral Capital Management V, LLC 246,730 1.78 $3,412,275 30-Sep-03
Empire Capital Partners LP 205,000 1.48 $1,961,849 30-Jun-03
Barclays Bank Plc 174,686 1.26 $2,415,907 30-Sep-03
Bjurman, Barry & Associates 160,000 1.16 $2,212,800 30-Sep-03
ING Investments, LLC 143,100 1.03 $1,979,073 30-Sep-03
Oberweis Asset Management Inc. 112,000 0.81 $1,548,960 30-Sep-03
Whitney Asset Management LLC 76,967 0.56 $1,064,453 30-Sep-03
More details HERE.
It's a scheme to make Daryl money through stock price manipulation. That's all. It makes perfect sense if understood from that perspective.
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How exactly does it do more for IBM by settling rather than winnning a court case that gains it respect? IBM already has money.
Legitimizing it's Linux rivals is something IBM will have to deal with anyway in the near future, with or without SCO. IBM will end up legitimizing them on it's own, with IBM's own success in Linux solutions, with or without SCO.
If I had to guess, IBM will end up squeezing SCO so hard that SCO will voluntarily give IBM money to stop the pain. IBM won't settle, SCO will just lose stock value and quit in a war of attrition.
At very most, SCO is trying to stave off a takeover, by increasing its stock value artificially...perhaps they have a way out that we'll not know about until 20 years from now.
Go read the offending code, sign the NDA...IBM won't settle.
Dude, don't talk smack if you can't back it up.
You mention French and German women, but completely forget beautiful Swedish ones, and of course the fat assed toothless trailer trash you export via Springer, etc.
Regardless of the fact you can get them in the US, I'd rate the cuisines of the rest of the world way above those of the US. You evidently have no idea where pizza started, and burgers were brought over by German immigrants on the way to the colonies. Besides, I'd rather get some Mexican takeout.. oops! That comes from those poor buggers you have pick fruit for $1.50 an hour because you're too fat from your burgers, pizza and that you never walk anywhere (big cities with mass transit excepted).
If you think the skyscrapers, endless bland strip malls and smog of LA or New York even touch the thousands of years of European architecture they take inspiration from then you're utterly ignorant.
You confuse the dominant export of your culture through movies with interest level. The last movie I watched from there was The Last Samurai, which if I do remember focused on Japanese culture. I concede that it did also show the ugly side of American capitalism. Maybe that's the US culture you talked of.
Education in Europe is actually worth something. Even specific degrees in the US seem to have the student take classes in a dozen completely unrelated things whereas in the UK for example, if you go and take a computer science degree, all modules are specifically orientated to computing. Yes, I'd say that guy was right! A batchelor or masters degree elsewhere is worth more than a US one, and you don't end up still paying the associated school loans off 10 years later either.
You ought to remember where your nation came from, why it takes from everywhere else, and why y'all go e-mailing looking for relatives so much. Everything you have comes from elsewhere. America is all about quantity of living. Go to Europe if you want quality of living.
Now, perhaps you should STFU, asshole.
1. It could be Microsoft. I don't think Bill G and Darl actually planned the whole thing myself, but some people have mentioned it, so let's grant the possibility. If so, MS isn't up to a lot, they tried something, it is in the process of failure, they don't have a way to turn that around, so they are either regrouping or starting something else unrelated. IF MS has an evil plan, I hope they have enough sense to pick somebody totally unconnected to SCO for the next attempt, cause anything less is unworthy.
I have a friend who works at Microsoft. I took him to lunch the other day and mentioned this SCO/Miscrsoft connection. First I asked if he was even aware of what was going on. "Oh, yes." he said. Then I went as far as to suggest That Microsoft was the ghost partner in all this. He responded with "Well that's what everybody in this office thinks." Then he just looked at me, intently, as if to say... I waiting... read deeper. I've given you an insiders answer but can't say any more.
All I could do is say "Wow, okay..."
No proof of high level talks; no smoking gun. But I knew then that SCO smelled Microsoft money and fell for it as so many other companies have. How many countless companies have smelled M$ money, gone for it, only to find it cost them their life. Not unlike selling out to the Devil for short term gains. Microsoft wins. Not only through SCO can they attack Linux, they sink the preceved owners of UNIX in the process. This is *so* Microsofts style. With Darly not being too bright, kind of like a president I know, the job to sucker him in wasn't too tough I suspect.
As has been said other places, the people who are giving thier code away BELIEVE in what they are doing.
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They also have the option (as we all do) to invest in companies who are profiting from thier work. I'm pretty sure that IBM and Intel both issue dividends. It might not be rolling in dough, but its a nice thing to go to the mailbox and find $
The Western Front Let's see: In 1914 the German 1st Army went straight for Paris, chasing the British Expedition Force in front of them. The newly formed French 6th Army countered and send them back. It wasn't until much later in the war that the Americans came in, and the Germans were nowhere near Paris at that time.
Lars T.
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