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MIDI Keyboard/Computer: Neko64

An anonymous reader gushes "Just got back from NAMM, and saw the coolest thing for music geeks - it's a MIDI keyboard with a dual Opterons and a 15 inch touchscreen. While other vendors crow about 5 inch screens (Now With Color!) these guys have a beautiful UI on a live performance instrument that is also awesome studio gear. 4 interchangable control surfaces, and battery backup to boot! If the power cord gets yanked out in the middle of a performance, there's plenty of time to bitch out the roadie and get it plugged in without missing a beat. These guys truly Get It."

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  1. Tough price point by (1337)+God · · Score: 2, Informative


    The only problem with this kind of high-end equipment is that traditional capitalistic methods cannot bring prices down through competition.

    The only North American dealer is http://www.coastrecording.com/. In Europe, your only choice is probably http://www.electricsound.com/.

    That being said however, I've read some great reviews of this keyboard, and it stacks up well against the Triton and Yamaha (potential competitors) in terms of features, quality, and price.

    Here's my goal for next year:
    1) Buy this thing
    2) Become a rockstar
    3) Get tons of ass
    4) ???
    5) Profit!

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  2. Mediastation open source alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some linux developers have developed a similar keyboard that is based on opensource software. I haven't compared specs in detail but I'm guessing the hardware is similar based on voice count.

    http://www.lionstracs.com/

    I'm totally linux-centric (unlike most slashdotters) so I wanted to make reference to those musicians who'd like to support *true* opensource development.

    -ry

  3. Re:Doom? by TechnoWeeniePas · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually you can...its just a standard PC built into the case...it runs XP behind their fancy front end.

  4. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by R3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    $8500 for the top of the line (Dual 2GHz Opteron, 2GB RAM)

    http://store.openlabs.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects.exe /E CommStoreFront.woa/6/wa/DSCDirectAction/descriptio n?part=neKo64762T&wosid=eq7K146htvRy2So6qmj1yq5N29 B&pageName=ECSFStoreHome&store=Openlabs&currentBat ch=0&sortBy=1

  5. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by xankar · · Score: 4, Informative
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  6. Re:The one thing missing on all those pages... by TechnoWeeniePas · · Score: 4, Informative

    It costs between $2245 and $8445 depending on the configuration you want.

    http://store.openlabs.com/

  7. Re:Does it run Linux?! by Hannes+Eriksson · · Score: 2, Informative

    The big deal is that you don't have to have a bunch of cables running across the stage to a computer to get real time audio effects processing done on your software instruments. You also don't have to have a separate computer. All the interface nicely collected at your fingertips.
    And yes, a dual opteron will get a significant load once you start to pile up your effects.
    And regarding the price: A computer is much cheaper than a large rack of effect modules.

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  8. Re:Does it run Linux?! by ndqc · · Score: 2, Informative

    last time i checked - winxp is not a real-time os. so keyboard with spaceship control panel and pc inside can't be with "...near-zero latency even under high processor loads". and while processor is highly loaded, latency is "low" but midi in/out starts to drop notes...

  9. Noise? by arrianus · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a dual Opteron, with 350 watt power supply. They claim "quiet cooling fans," but as a practical matter, dual Opteron in a small, enclosed space will not be that quiet. For a piece of audio equipment, wouldn't it make more sense to cut back a bit on the processing power, and go for completely silent? Or alternatively, one could physically seperate the noise from the source. I don't think this would matter much on-stage with mega amplifiers, but in a recording studio, or for quieter music in a smaller environment (for use at home, etc.), do you really want the humming of a fan? Personally, I'd take a 1GHz C3 chip, running fanless, on a MicroITX motherboard probably, one of the quieter hard drives, in an acoustice enclosure. If I really need the high-end speed, I'd blow the money on making the case into a large heat sink, and use heat pipes.

  10. What is 64-bit? by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    how could it be 64-bit computing

    Depends how you define bitness. PC data buses have been 64-bit ever since DIMMs first became popular as a RAM form factor. I'm guessing that some of the signal processing is done in IEEE double-precision floating-point, which is 64-bit. And no, pointer size isn't everything; even "16-bit" MS-DOS apps used pointers with 20 significant bits.

  11. Re:One minor problem.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    Good point on the synths with no fans front :-) There were actually a couple of synths with fans in the late 70s/early 80s if i recall. The Rhodes Chroma was one, i think? And i know some of the unstable analogs of the 70s can have fan retrofits to help keep the oscillators in tune. This is going back quite a ways, though.

    But yah, no fan is always better than a fan... but there are still a lot of musicians out there who see forking out for a fanless Apple to be a big (and unnecessary) expense. Again, that might be the difference between the kind of musicians we're around :-) I mostly know rock/punk guys and techno musicians.

  12. Re:OpenSynth NEKO 64(tm) as in 64-bit? *hum* by benzapp · · Score: 2, Informative

    The main issue with a synth is sample size.

    A high quality sample of just a grand piano can be 128 megs right there. That is a single note.

    Having a 64-bit processor means you can have several gigs of samples and not have to swap them to disk. They can all be in memory.

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  13. Re:Did you actually SEE it running? by iamthemoog · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apologies for linking to my own stuff, but check this out:

    http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid =1284

    Just editing the video for this too, so watch this space.

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  14. Get one of these. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1, Informative

    Get one of these, it is only $99. The article cites overkill. It reads like one of those fluff CNN articles "Own this new robot dog, only $1,000,000!".

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  15. Re:required /. joke by Schmucky+The+Cat · · Score: 2, Informative
    Yes, and Windows PAE support is degrees better than Linux PAE support. Which is why the previous two responses to this question are wrong. Windows isn't limited to 4GB "banks" as Linux is. The Windows PAE AWE APIs (I had to do that) also aren't performance killing hacks (which is what the Linux "bank" model is).

    PAE in Windows provides a set of APIs called AWE so PAE aware applications can use more than 4GB at a time. And of course the OS can put multiple applications in their own address space so standard 32-bit apps can all be fully memory resident even if they allocate an entire address space to themselves.

    PAE generally isn't available in the retail Win2000/XP Professional. But - it's a simple request for an OEM (like the keyboard manufacturer) to enable the kernel and memory management features found in the server products for the OS they ship.

  16. Re:Did you actually SEE it running? by torpor · · Score: 2, Informative

    I saw it at NAMM last year, the sliders didn't move and the knobs were glued on.

    Hopefully this year they'll have gotten the control surface working.

    Now, since I work for a prominent synthesizer manufacturer, I can't really comment on this system much more (though I would like t) except to repeat what I've already said about it, and that is that its a PC in a box ... you will still have to put up with plugin management issues, the PC crashing, Windows, etc.

    Its just that it'll all be in a nice plastic grey box. That is all.

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  17. Re:Did you actually HEAR it playing? by CBDSteve · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, but my point still stands -

    You have to lean over it to use it, pretty much guaranteeing you back- or neck-ache!

    If it's a PC in a nice grey box you want, get a Carillon (for a lot less than $8,000 I might add).