Slashdot Mirror
KDE 3.2 Release Candidate 1 Debuts
danalien writes "Before a early Feb. release of the (stable) KDE 3.2, KDE has today announced the first 'Release Candidate', and hopefully the last pre-release, for its 'Open Source graphical desktop environment for Unix workstations'. Get it from download.kde.org, or use Konstruct if you don't feel like calling configure by yourself."
GNAA Interviews CowboyNeal
by GNAA staff
On January 17 2004, select members of the GNAA interviewed CowboyNeal on IRC channel #caoine at irc.caoine.org.
We will be right back after this commercial break!
According to Google Zeitgeist, there are about 80% of Internet Explorer 6 users. The only platform supporting Internet Explorer 6 is, of course, Microsoft Windows. These statistics are consistent with the earlier presented graphs of the operating systems used to access Google, with the Windows family consistently taking the top 3 ranks. Out of remaining 20%, the split is even between MSIE 5.5, MSIE 5.0, both Windows-only browsers. Netscape 5.x (including Mozilla) counts for only a measly 5% of browsers used to access Google. As you can see from the graph, this sample was calculated starting from March 2001 until September 2003.
According to Google Zeitgeist, there are about 80% of Internet Explorer 6 users. The only platform supporting Internet Explorer 6 is, of course, Microsoft Windows. These statistics are consistent with the earlier presented graphs of the operating systems used to access Google, with the Windows family consistently taking the top 3 ranks. Out of remaining 20%, the split is even between MSIE 5.5, MSIE 5.0, both Windows-only browsers. Netscape 5.x (including Mozilla) counts for only a measly 5% of browsers used to access Google. As you can see from the graph, this sample was calculated starting from March 2001 until September 2003.
And now we return to our scheduled broadcast...
The following are select portions of the chat transcript kept by official GNAA stenographer (and Ringmusculaturis II Leader), Captain B. Dick
---
GNAA Member AbdullaH introduces himself to CowboyNeal
[5:09:26] AbdullaH: Hello, Sir! My name is Abdullah Ihram Mohammad Bin Zular Krokar Tehroham Kumr, I am a TERRORIST. My father was on the first plane that crashed in the World Tarde Center. I get a boner every time CNN plays that tape. If you wish to help me in my quest for WORLD SLAVERY, please purchase a kalashnikov at your nearest kalashnikov store and HELP ME KILL ALL AMERICANS!
[5:09:29] CowboyNeal: if this is part of that jihad I keep hearing about, it's a pretty fucking lame part of it
---
CowboyNeal is questioned about his feelings towards civil rights; uses both the N, and K-words
[5:21:11] timecop: CowboyNeal: do you have something against niggers?
[5:21:24] CowboyNeal: nay, some of best friends are nigs
[5:23:47] CowboyNeal: like all my kike friends too?
---
GNAA Member timecop inquires about Slashdot moderation policies. CowboyNeal admits to cleaning peoples' shit up for a living.
[5:16:04] timecop: I have a problem with my slashdot account
[5:16:09] timecop: it has Karma: excellent
[5:16:10] timecop: but I post at -1
[5:16:12] timecop: WHAT THE FUCK?!
[5:16:19] CowboyNeal: yeah, sucks, don't it?
[5:16:26] CaptBDick: wow that can happen?
[5:16:41] timecop: CowboyNeal: mind to explain what the FUCK is going on?
[5:17:00] CowboyNeal: you got downmodded into oblivion at least once, and there's no second chances
[5:17:17] timecop: no, i got a better theory
[5:17:35] timecop: some nazis downmodded a bunch of my comments and set a flag to fuck all my posts
[5:17:41] timecop: because someone doesnt agree with my OPINIONS
[5:18:05] CowboyNeal: you are complaining to the janitor, not the vice principal
[5:23:08] CowboyNeal: I don't have any modpoints
---
CowboyNeal admits hatred for Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, and pretends
Fags.
I'm sorry, but isn't this the same issue people have been complaining about for years? I'm a computer scientist with 10 years of experience, and even I wouldn't know how to do this. Sure, I could figure it out, but it would take time. Even worse, my grandmother or my mother or my brother wouldn't even really have the first idea how to make this work. But Windows just works, they'll say, so why should I stop using it?
Anyway, if one wants to upgrade, shouldn't there be a button within KDE?:
"To install the new version of KDE, go to the Start Menu, click on "Upgrade" and you're done!"
I wonder if this will truly be the year of the Linux desktop if things are still this "geeky."
Seems to me that one way to spread adoption would be to come up with a version of KDE that could run in place of the Windows UI but still give you the core Windows code. Meaning you can move your users that much closer to an MS free existence without losing much compatibility.
Yes! We could move away from the evil empire of Microsoft into a golden age, united under the peaceful and benevolent reign of Trolltech! We really need an anthem.
"...and the sheer volume of quality code is simply amazing."
Uhmmm, quality you say? the article said KDE, not Gnome, now if you said "pure crap" then i would believe you knew something about KDE (gayDE)
And im only posting anon because the facist bastards that like to mark troll and flame bait just because they are morons
Who cares. KDE is dying. GNOME is the better desktop. Even freedesktop.org thinks so. So this is a big FUCK YOU to all KDE-backers. KDE can go to hell. GNOME 4-evah!
I'm a linux noobie, so could you experienced users explain the differences between KDE and GNOME? Other than minor differences in appearance, they seem pretty similar.
Anything important for X11/vtwm users?
There's an understatement for you.
Gnome, KDE and Qt are getting more and more closely integrated on the "Linux Desktop".
Is it possible that TrollTech is just waiting for these environments to get entrenched in corporations like IBM and Oracle before dropping the legal hammer on them?
I always get called a troll when I ask this, am always told that, even at multiple X the price of MS Win2K pro and Visual Studio, Qt is a much better deal.
I don't think I'm being a troll, I think Trolltech's licensing is ambiguous at best, and a total legal nightmare at worst, just waiting to pop out and bite Linux in the ass. Not to mention that TrollTech would have a much better legal foundation than SCO, and no I don't think the price is all that great of a deal.
So it begs the question...what would be "fair" from my point of view? First off, unless something changes, a huge warning should pop up on any desktop having the Qt libraries installed. It should clearly state that commercial use of the distribution, because it has TrollTech products installed, should be reviewed carefully by a legal team. Then it should require an "Ok" response before the first boot.
This may sound harsh, but TrollTech is using a mass of truly free software to further their economic goals. Think about that--millions of lines of code, given freely by developers all over the world, and TrollTech doesn't just run on it, it's not a product you buy at BestBuy or download after punching in a credit card number--it's installed by default, lib and includes, on a "Free Software Distribution", with no warning to the installer/user whatsoever. This is WRONG!
So back to "what would be fair". Way #1 : Sell the stuff separate, at a low price for all platforms. $49 a CD (or something) would be better than $1550 per developer, per year, per platform.
If trolltech wants to continue distributing Qt Designer with free software, then either post the legal warning every thirty days or so, or else free the stuff. Sell a pro version, give away the lesser version.
Do something different than continuing to hide this legally ambiguous bit of fluff in the midst of millions of lines of truly free software.
Konq to Moz? Not a fair comparison. Moz is a beast. Maybe FireBird without the FileManager and the 101 other things and you're half-way there...
GiMP is beyond anything and everything, no challenge.
AbiWord sucks. It has sucked since the very first version I tried some 4 years ago and has consistently kept doing so. OpenOffice had better not be Gnomified-uglyfied. It's ugly enough. KOffice, the world has no need for IMO.
Gaim is very good. And ugly as hell. Ever tried Kopete? Does the same things. Looks better too.
/. Where the truth
Yeah, and great software it is. It only crashes every 30 seconds, and all the icons are inconsistient (some from crystal theme [ripped from OSX and XP], some from the old theme, some from GNOME, etc). UI guidelines? Fuck them. If it's shiny, it's good!
And what's all this "K" business. It's not kute anymore. Cut it out.
My other car is first.
KDE: The K stands for Krap.
Well it sure did take long enough. Remember when KDE used to be known for its speed of development?
- 2.0: 10/23/2000
- 2.1: 2/26/2001 (4 months, 3 days)
- 2.2: 8/15/2001 (5 months, 19 days)
- 3.0: 4/3/2002 (7 months, 19 days)
- 3.1: 1/28/2003 (9 months, 25 days)
- 3.2RC: 1/19/2004 (11 months, 22 days and counting)
At this rate, we won't see KDE 3.3/4.0 (whichever the next version ends up being) until April 2005!
GPL = Gay Public License
LGPL = Less Gay Public License
any questions?
KDE is still gay.
There you go.