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United Linux Dead

DesScorp writes "ZDnet has a story about the impending demise of United Linux, with former general manager Paula Hunter stating that 'the legal entity still exists but I turned the lights out'. While a couple of reasons were given for UL's demise, most of the blame was firmly laid on the shoulders of SCO. As a member of group, their lawsuits killed off any real product development. SCO apparently refused to resign from UL, and Hunter said that 'As long as they remained a member, it remained impossible for us to begin new projects'. Which brings up the question, couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?"

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  1. SCO being a member of United Linux... by corebreech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is like Madonna running a mirror for suprnova.org, isn't it?

    Or to put it another way, why would SCO join an organization designed to standardize the way in which their IP rights are violated?

    Unless of course they have no IP claims to begin with. Which they don't. And we know that. And so did SCO, at one point in time.

    I don't understand why that fact alone doesn't throw this whole case out.

  2. Maybe by Cipster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    couldn't the other group members have kicked them out?"

    That would depend on the agreements they had signed. It might have just been easier for everyone else to pull out and just reform a different group at a later time.

  3. Re: United Linux is Dead by DoctorPepper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which only goes to prove the old adage:

    "One rotten apple spoils the entire bunch".

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    No matter where you go... there you are.
  4. Create a new distrobution by shuz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So UL died. Financial chaos insues. Just create another distro based on what you learned. I find that Linux distrobutions are successfull based on the research that was done to them. Debian has apt and has official packages controlled and standardized. Redhat pushes ease of use with a corporate twist. SuSE has european nations in its grasp and has a little of column A and a little of column B in it, a well balanced distro you might say. Slackware is the tried and true throw everything in and let the user sort it out "hackers" distro. Though its become a lot more friendly to use and is evolving nicely. United Linux wanted to take all the ideas and somehow work them into one. Thier goal was to make a standard set of packages what would work seamlessly together and be user friendly. They wanted to create a set of rules to follow when adding non-official packages and work on schemes to make packages work together and not break each other be accident. There goals have never been met by any distrobution to date. I still see hope for what they were trying to do. Just move on and do it under a different name. Rework management AKA reorganize and try again. The little distro the could so to speak. /rant off

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  5. Sometimes dying is a good thing. by dominion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been involved in a lot of activist and community projects, and the one thing I've learned is that sometimes it's not a bad thing that a project ends.

    The worst thing is to stay together when everybody in a bitchy mood and one person's causing trouble and the project really isn't going anywhere.

    Usually it's better to quietly end the project, say your farewells, take some time off, and then start new.

    Food for thought.

  6. Re:The replacement is already here by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Some of them have communicated with me privately. Their main request was "make us a path out of this mess and into getting the job done". I believe their attachment was more to Linux and the GNU System than to a commercial alliance created to market against Red Hat.

    Thanks

    Bruce

  7. Re:The replacement is already here by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful
    *cough* *c SHAMELESS PLUG!!! ough* *ahem* Err... excuse me.

    I get more done becuase of my chutzpah and sometimes, I admit, arrogance. You gotta get attention for ideas to get them done.

    UserLinux targets both desktop and server. Users employ servers too, just remotely.

    We can get Oracle on board. It might take some time, but we can get their customers to bring them there.

    Bruce

  8. Re:Lock-out? by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful
    apt-get install kde

    It'll work, I promise. And there will be people who want to support you.

    Bruce