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TiVo Buys Super Secret Strangeberry

Raindeer writes "According to SEC-filings Tivo has bought a start up of Marimba-founder and Java-designer Arthur van Hoff. The name of the startup is Strangeberry Just because of their job-titles they must be building something cool Chief Hackberry, Chief Wiseberry, Chief Smartberry. The SEC-Filings show that it has something to do with delivering broadbandservices to televission. A Dutch web-log claims to have a picture of what they are building. Anybody got anymore ideas on what this could be?"

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  1. Are any of them named John Smallberries? by gaudior · · Score: 4, Funny

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    1. Re:Are any of them named John Smallberries? by squarefish · · Score: 4, Funny

      this is actually kind of funny. I believe he's talking about john small berries from The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. he was an actual charater along with john bigboote

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    2. Re:Are any of them named John Smallberries? by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bigboo-tay!

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  2. What it is: by wiredog · · Score: 5, Funny

    An oscillation overthruster

    1. Re:What it is: by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank you, John Smallberries, that's all I could think of when I read the article. :-)

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  3. Hackberry, Wiseberry, Smartberry ... by BabyDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sound like a bunch of dingleberries to me.

  4. Translation of the Dutch weblog post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kastjes onder de radar

    In een voormalige winkel in Palo Alto zit een start up waarvan de oprichters op een lauwe dinsdagmiddag naar Fry's Electronics zijn gereden om componenten te kopen waaruit ze deze vreemde kastjes hebben gebouwd. Ik denk dat binnen twee jaar iedereen met een DSL- of kabelaansluiting zo'n kastje in huis heeft. Meer mag ik er van de oprichters niet over zeggen, want die hebben de illusie dat ik er veel van snap en dus veel kan verklappen, een tragisch misverstand. Ze zijn heel bedreven in het 'onder de radar' blijven, maar intussen lopen bedrijven als Apple en Google de deur bij ze plat. Ik zie Philips of Shell niet zo snel audientie vragen bij een paar nerds uit Delft. Helaas.


    English translation
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    Boxes below radar

    In a former shop in Palo Alto there's a startup whose founders rode to Fry's Electronics on a tuesday afternoon to buy some components to build these weird cases. I think that within two years, everyone with DSL or Cable will have one in their home. I can't say more from the founders, because they think I understand it (a grave misunderstanding) and can this tell you guys about it. They are very skilled in staying 'below radar' but in the meantime, companies such as Apple and Google are knocking at their door. I can't see Philips or Shell asking for an audience with two nerds from Delft. Pity.

    1. Re:Translation of the Dutch weblog post by Eight+01 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It sounds like a wireless video decoder/sender so you can use your broadband connection as a pipe for video on demand.

      The hardware won't be what makes this successful or not, it will be the deals they can make with content providers. This is probably where Tivo could help.

      I don't have much hope for Strangeberry's success given the entertainment industry's history with new delivery technologies.

  5. just check archive by shlomo · · Score: 5, Informative

    look at archive.org (way back machine) at what they used to be before becoming vaporware :) click here

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    1. Re:just check archive by pldms · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Strangeberry were known for jRendezvous (a java zeroconf library). It's moved to SourceForge, for future reference.

      I think the series 2 tivo uses rendezvous, which is the only connection I can think of between the two companies.

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  6. It's a Scooter! by TheLoneCabbage · · Score: 5, Funny

    And it only has 1 wheel! It will revolutionize the... the... the... well it will revolutionize something!

  7. They're probably building... by I+Be+Hatin' · · Score: 5, Funny
    A time machine, so they can go back to 1999, when goofy job titles and goofily-named companies were acceptable.

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  8. If you can try to remember... by emo+boy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wasn't the strangeberry what all the Smurfs were after? I think that's what got them all drunk and lusting after Smurfette.

  9. My Guess by illuminatedwax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looking at the picture, it looks like they make:
    - Cable Modems
    - Router/Hubs
    - Breakout Audio/Video Box
    - Those artificial flowers that dance when they hear noises

    or some combination thereof.

    --Stephen

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    1. Re:My Guess by *weasel · · Score: 3

      The technology between your desk and couch

      sounds more likely a component layer for using your TV as a display medium for communicating with your home network/Broadband connection.

      with all the disparate standards between broadcast media sources (HDbroadcast, VHF,UHF,cable,digital cabel,satellite), broadband access (dsl,isdn,cable,etc), and home networks (ipx,tcp,mac - not to mention network file sharing protocols) a component layer makes perfect sense. Particularly if you're in the business of making a consumer set-top product that is aimed to work with anything.

      And a component layer of 'berries' doesn't sound too far outside the expertise of a designer responsible for layers of 'beans' now does it?

      Just more of the same intended functionality at the end: mp3s on your home audio system, digital photo slideshow on your TV, mpg viewing, perhaps even some measure of web surfing capability. although it'd be flawed for normal sets (webtv != good surfing), HDTV sets have plenty of resolution to surf adequately. The only difference in this endeavor being abstraction to make functionality expandable independent of compatibility - java for your media.

      it only makes sense that Tivo would want their hand in such technology, to enhance their existing offering and one-up Replay.

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  10. Strangeberry by paul248 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Strangeberry is... PEOPLE!!!

  11. Java Rendezvous Development? by WebTurtle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From what I can gather from Google, it seems one of their projects was a set of Java libraries designed to work with Apple's Rendezvous service. Here is a link: http://chrisheller.org/blog/archives/000048.html

    But, I think this was only a side project... since it seems that development is now moved to Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jmdns/

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  12. Someone out there must have some info... by Isca · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Who can find out what patents they have filed? That's usually a start on what this is.

    It looks like a wireless reciever with something that may hook directly into your home ethernet, pulling media off of your home computers or the net. Maybe a media-centric version of WebTV?

    There's lots of people working on these devices, maybe this company has created a nice interface for it? Maybe Tivo wants to purchase a company who has designed a device like this so that you can watch a tivo's playback on another TV without having to have an extra Tivo in the other room?

    Hopefully this will be a killer app that will finally cause them to get bought out by a company with more clout, and get the Tivo system liscensed into more devices, making it cheaper and more affordable for me to get multiple tivo's :)

    1. Re:Someone out there must have some info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting


      No patents filed under strangeberry, but the latest Tivo patents are interesting.

  13. Computer & TV by Alcoyotl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to work for a company whose aim was to build interactive television tools. Apart from the standard webmail/chat/TV guide apps, one really cool feature would have been to add information to TV shows.

    Let's say you're watching some show, and see some really nice toy, or outfit, or you're in front of your favorite sports/team match, and want to have some player' stats, you click on the item/player and some web page with the desired info is shown to you

    Information on demand for the user and a not so obstrusive yet effective ads/marketing scheme for the companies. this could have become the future of television, as more and more people are looking for real interactivity, and coupling TV for content and the web as a large databank would really reconcile me with TV.

    At least that was the idea... What makes me think of it is the home network/broadband/experience words in the announcement.

  14. Seinfeld flashback by savagedome · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just because of their job-titles they must be building something cool Chief Hackberry, Chief Wiseberry, Chief Smartberry

    JERRY: They sell them by the side of the road. Blueberry, Blackberry ....
    GEORGE: Blackberry, Boysenberry ...
    JERRY: Boysenberry, Huckleberry ...
    GEORGE: Huckleberry, Raspberry...
    JERRY: Raspberry, Strawberry ...
    GEORGE: Strawberry, Cranberry ...
    JERRY: Peach.

  15. Re:Dutch, you say? by dutch_admin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you make it look like the only thing Dutchies do, is smoke pot all day
    well... we do, how else do you expect us to invent something called 'strangeberry'

  16. Re:fp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    interesting, Strangeberry created a java implementation of zeroconf, perhaps Tivo are looking at implementing a zeroconf network to share downloaded data with other machines on the network?

  17. What's in a name? by volpe · · Score: 5, Funny


    The name of the startup is Strangeberry Just because of their job-titles they must be building something cool Chief Hackberry, Chief Wiseberry, Chief Smartberry


    "With a name like Smuckers, it's got to be good".

    Why does logic fly out the window whenever some kind of berry or other small fruit is involved?

  18. Jobs by Quixote · · Score: 5, Informative
    Here's what they had on their jobs page last year:

    Jobs
    Join a world class team. Build potent software. Strangeberry Inc. is looking for smart, independent people who thrive at startups. Here are some of our openings:

    GRAPHIC / USER INTERFACE DESIGNER
    Graphic designer with experience building interface for consumer digital media applications. Must be creative and a good communicator. Qualified candidates have 3-4 years experience with interactive design and typographic skills. Knowledge of Photoshop and Illustrator required. DVD / Game UI experience a plus.

    APPLICATION ENGINEER
    Developer with experience creating user interfaces. Must be comfortable with C/C++, Java, Windows and Unix. No VB, please. Qualified candidates have 4-5 years experience building applications.

    KERNEL ENGINEER
    Linux kernel developer with experience writing device drivers under x86. Qualified candidates have 2-3 years experience working on the kernel. Knowledge of framebuffer internals a plus. Codec experience smiled upon.

    1. Re:Jobs by DjMd · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot

      Berry Picker
      Berry picker with significant experience with berry picking. Must be able to pick wide variety of berry (including non-standard berry formats; goose, huckle, smart, wise, hack). Experience with mushrooms and shines also considered.

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  19. A guess: DSL router for multimedia by fvdveen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My guess, the whole business is about connecting the television to Intranet-based multimedia. What iTunes is to MP3, this system could become for movies, etc. I expect this to both schedule and maintain downloads of multimedia material, in particular from Intranet-based video channels. Mind you that Quicktime already partly implements video channels, so the step to paid video channels, and hooking them up to your television is not so far away. Given illegal copying of movies, the movie business is very much following the same fate as the music business. Pushed some further: DSL router to capture video data, stream it to a detachable, iPOD like video viewer. But then please: also put PDA and cell-phone features into it: away with cable salad and connector mess.

  20. It is a TLAN system by sadomikeyism · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A Television Local Area Network, so you can view Tivo'd shows/movies anywhere in the house without having to have multiple Tivo machines (or cable boxes). About time someone recognised that TV is nothing but push media that can go across a network just like anything else.

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  21. I think they're doing everything right. by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually a company with a minimal number of employees, buying what is now cheap office space, and keeping themselves under the radar sounds pretty coherent to me. It's the start-ups that have hundreds of employees with millions of VC and they go blow it on stupid unessentials that you should worry about. Frankly, Dean Kamen couldn't keep his mouth shut. He was constantly bragging about "it". Of course, it all turned out to be a bunch of garbage.

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  22. Well... by nuggetman · · Score: 5, Informative

    First, the image is much larger than in the page.

    Anyway... here's my thoughts.

    The far left has RCA, SVIDEO, and Ethnernet. Maybe some way to output data over a network to RCA-based stereo systems, something like a PRISMIQ.

    The middle device looks to be the same, except it has DV and optical in addition to RCA and SVIDEO. It could be another PRISMIQ-esque device, or it could also be something designed to go the other way too.

    We can't see the back of the last unit, but I'm gonna guess it's something w/ wireless similar to the first two.

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  23. Love a riddle. Here is a possible answer by rcastro0 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Googling around, it seems Strangeberry's claim to fame is their release of an LPGLed implementation of Rendezvous (Zeroconf), an alternative to MS-Backed UPnP (Universal Plug and Play). How important is it ?

    Apple's Safari browser was one of the first to make use of the Rendezvous technology and, from what I gather, the most interesting thing it does is to enable local servers transparently (e.g. you can bookmark them, and you can make any computer around serve files). Open source browser Camino is also taking this route.

    Tivo has expressed what Rendevous has to do with their plans:
    TiVo
    "TiVo's upcoming premium service package will use Rendezvous technology to automatically discover Macintosh computers within the home network and determine which services they provide, allowing customers to listen to their shared music or view their shared photos on their TV," said Jim Barton, Co-founder and CTO for TiVo. "We are excited about working with Apple on other ways Rendezvous can help TiVo Series2 DVRs connect to a Mac to deliver future services."
    (see this page)
    This is just a collection of web-based info gotten through google. I may be seeing it all wrong, but the picture seems to make some sense to me. They are acquiring a company that brings something which Tivo intends to be a core offering of their system.
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  24. from the rather good itvt.com (on Tivo) by fiddlesticks · · Score: 4, Informative
    TiVo Announces New Products, Services & Licensing Deals at CES

    DVR vendor/service provider, TiVo, generated a fair amount of news at the recent Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas:
    • TiVo's technology-licensing business seems to be becoming an increasingly important element of the company's overall strategy. It announced that Korean consumer-electronics manufacturer, Humax, which is seeking to establish a foothold for itself in the US, will later this year unveil 2 TiVo- powered DVD recorders for the US market (the devices, which will offer home-networking capabilities, progressive scan output, and DV input, are scheduled to be available in retail by the fall), as well as 2 new TiVo Series2 DVR's, featuring 80 hours and 250 hours of storage respectively (these are scheduled to be available in retail at the beginning of the 2nd quarter). TiVo also revealed that it has extended its existing licensing agreement with Toshiba, which plans to launch a number of new TiVo- powered devices later this year, including a DVD recorder that is expected to be available in the fall: last year, Toshiba introduced a TiVo-powered product, the SD-H400, which combines a DVD player with a DVR, and which offers around 80 hours of storage. (Note: Pioneer also has a licensing agreement in place with TiVo, and last year introduced 2 DVD recorder/VCR hybrid products, the DVR-810H and the Elite DVR-57H.) In addition, TiVo said that Hughes, Philips, RCA and Samsung will this year all offer products which combine satellite receivers with TiVo-powered DVR's, and which are designed to support the "DirecTV with TiVo" service offered by satellite-TV provider, DirecTV. (Note: the "DirecTV with TiVo" service is becoming increasingly important to TiVo's bottom line: in its most recent fiscal quarter, TiVo added 150,000 net new subscriptions through DirecTV--representing growth of nearly 100% over the previous quarter and nearly 10 times the number of DirecTV with TiVo subscriptions added during the year-ago quarter--compared to only 59,000 net new stand-alone TiVo service subscriptions.)
    • It showcased a new product of its own that is targeted at "DirecTV with TiVo" customers, and that combines an HD satellite receiver with an HDTV DVR. The new product, which is called simply the "DirecTV HD DVR," will be commercially available during the current quarter. It features 4 tuners, and can automatically detect whether an incoming signal is satellite- based or off-air, and then engage the appropriate tuner for recording.
    • It said that it plans to launch a mobile version of its service next fall, dubbed "TiVoToGo." Among other things, the new service will allow TiVo subscribers who have purchased the company's "Home Media Option" (note: the TiVo Home Media Option, which was unveiled at the 2003 Consumer Electronics Show, is designed to transform the company's Series2 box into an "entertainment center." Among other things, it allows consumers to
      1. use their TiVo remote control to stream video, music and photos stored on their PC directly to their TV,
      2. schedule recordings on their DVR remotely via the Internet, and
      3. access a library of digital content which TiVo is able to offer its subscribers through various partnerships) to transfer programs stored on their DVR's hard drive to any PC or laptop: if their computer is equipped with a DVD burner, they will then also be able to transfer those programs to DVD.
    • According to TiVo, TiVoToGo will be made possible by a "TiVo Content Security Key" (a small piece of hardware which viewers must plug into their PC whenever they are watching or recording TiVo content) and by TiVo-enabled versions of the MyDVD and CinePlayer applications from DVD-creation-software specialist, Sonic Solutions: the Sonic Solutions apps, which will be installed on the customer's computer, are designed not only to allow recorded programs to be played back on a computer or burned to a D
  25. Is that leesbaar for anyone? by l0wland · · Score: 4, Funny

    I geloof dat I like those translators you have gebruikt. Grote chance that no hond er one reet van understands. :-)

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  26. Re:Take a crack at this link by Dutch_Cap · · Score: 5, Informative
    Let me give you a proper translation:

    After Marimba went public [(got listen on the stock exchange)], Dutch ubertechnician Arthur van Hoff (center) scores again: he and his four collegues sold their ultra-secret start-up strangeberry, located in a small shop in Palo Alto, to Tivo. The transaction took place on the 12th of januari but Tivo only went public with the news yesterday.

    Founded in 2002, Straneberry was still pre-revenue, as they like to call companies who are still developing their technology. The gentlemen are working on a product related to the field of the posting below. After working together at Sun and Marimba, a bond had grown between the two which created a great atmosphere between them. Though occasionally it was hard to not tell friends everything about the activities of Strangeberry. The HIQ in Enschede and the university of Strathclyde are rightfully proud of van Hoff. It's a shame he makes his accomplishments in Silicon Valley, though, and can't pass on his experience in the Netherlands.

  27. Re:Not *again*! by mydigitalself · · Score: 3, Informative

    Marimba is an platform indepedant software deployment and management tool.

    Think of it this way: Novell have a product called ZenWorks, which sits on top of Novell Directory. Now say Mr I.T. Guy wants to deploy Napster to his 3,000 users. He could go to each of their machines and install it (sure!), he could edit the global shared login script to deploy it (messy, I'll explain in a bit) or he can use a software deployment tool.

    Lets go back the the batch script thing. Great idea, but what if someone logs in again a few minutes later - they try to get the software pushed across to them again. Or what if he only wants to deploy it to people within a certain department - or people who have existing software dependancies, or etc...

    Novell's ZenWorks allows you to create a "deployment package", which is essentially a wrapper around MSI to call all sorts of clever silent switches so the user gets a seamless experience. The package then has deployment rules, which can be based on LDAP (so organisational structure), dependancies, time of day, etc.. etc.. it also has licensing reporting capabilities built in so you can tell how many licenses of every single software package you can have installed. In truth, its got hundreds of features that you or I may go "who the fsck cares"...

    Marimba is pretty much the same thing - although its "open", yeah whatever that means! It also allows application deployment and management across server architectures as well as desktop deployment.

    So, no bullshit I'm affraid. These sorts of tools are very useful to either large and/or decentralised IT departments. Other players in this space include:
    * Tarantella
    * Microsoft SMS (now outdated)
    * Microsoft Active Directory Roll-out
    * WinInstall

    I think Tivoli from IBM may also do some of this as well.

    There you go. Whore the Karma!