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Return of the King Leads Oscar Nominations

PurdueGraphicsMan writes "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, the final chapter in Peter Jackson's directoral masterpeice is leading the 76 Annual Academy Awards with 11 nominations including Best Picture and Best Director. Next in line with 10 nominations including Best Picture and Best director is Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World. Here is a full list of the nominees in all categories."

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  1. Roger Ebert's Preliminary Picks by sielwolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can compare the actual nominations to Roger Ebert's predictions. He was pretty on point for Best Picture, Actor, and Supporting Actress. Its surprising to see the well liked but little seen roles getting nods. Alec Baldwin in The Cooler for one. Likewise it's interesting to see Keisha Castle-Hughes for her work in Whale Rider. Many were predicitng Charlize Theron would run away with her work in Monster but Castle-Hughes could pull an Anna Panquin upset. That role was powerful AND beloved. Something that might worka gainst Theron.

    Jude Law's nod is interesting since I don't remember anyone really talking about his performance (as compared to what Sean Penn, Bill Murray and Johnny Depp did this year). Ebert picked Russell Crowe's in Master and Commander which, likewise, didn't seem to have a big impact.

    Strangest one is that City of God got three nominations... although it had its NY/LA debut in December 2003 (Ebert made specific mention of it in his Top of 2004 to explain its absence). But here its getting nods for Cinematography, Direction and Writing. It probably only has a chance in Cinematography where RotK is (strangely) absent.

    RotK will probably run away with Makeup, Music(Song), Sound, Writing (Adapted), and Costume Design. Of course those are the second tier ones that end up as consolation prizes for a lot of folks. The interesting thing will see how it does in the big categories (which I guess Adapted Screenplay is one).

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    1. Re:Roger Ebert's Preliminary Picks by fireduck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      the fact that ROTK took the top 2 golden globes probably gives it momentum heading into the Oscars. Sure there's the history of SciFi/Fantasy never winning the big prizes, but this movie is unique among movies. Jackson directed three movies simultaneously, all of which have won critical, popular and financial praise. That achievement alone has to count for something to the voters. Combine that with seriously state of the art special effects, insane costume/prop department, more than adequate acting, and really this movie is the achievement of the past three years.

  2. Simple vs. Epic by addie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's very interesting to see that (IMHO) the two best movies to be nominated for best director are ROTK and Lost in Translation. One is a huge epic with a billion setpieces, thousands of extras, and a weaving storyline; this is an extreme challenge to direct. On the other hand, Lost in Translation features very few actors, very few locations, and some of the best low-key directing I've ever seen.

    I'm glad that the Oscars are nominating directors who are working from such completely different directions, but both achieving such brilliant results.

  3. yeah, great, nominations for the movie... by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What about nominations from the cast? ZERO.

    Granted it's probably because the characters are actually co-dependant and everyone was fantastic but still...

    I saw Lost in Translation at a pre-screening and while I thought it was "entertaining" I certainly don't believe Bill Murray was any better in that one than any other movie he has been in.

    Depp's character was fantastic and he really led the movie and he probably deserves the award out of the list IMHO.

    But why not at least NOMINATE an actor for best supporting from LOTR?

  4. But the New York Times... by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The NYT website front page, arbiter of all that is good and important, is touting the splendor and Oscar success of "Lost in Translation," so I can't imagine that any film could have done better than that one. You'd better check your facts.

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  5. Oscars are all that matters when judging movies... by gpinzone · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's why Titanic must be the greatest movie of all time. *cough*

  6. Best director? Hmmm... by Sebastopol · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Go see "City of God" and see if you still think Peter Jackson should get best director. I definitely think TRotK deserves an oscar for Adaptation and Art Direction, but City of God was really powerful, and it was mostly kid actors.

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  7. now WHAT in the HELL!! by gbd · · Score: 5, Funny

    hi all (george here)

    i have NO idea what the academy is SMOKING here!! god!! return of the king was about the WORST movie i saw all year!! for starters we got to the movie about ten minutes LATE because it took my god damn wife so LONG to shovel the snow out of the driveway and then when we FINALLY got there the idiot at the ticket booth did not accept the tickets i printed out from fan dango because he said that the effing NUMBER was INVALID!! god!!

    so then we get to the concession stand and this MORON puts too much butter on my popcorn which gives me gas, but that didn't matter because then my wife spilled the WHOLE god damn BAG as she was carrying it into the theater, also she spilled our sodas, god!! how can i sit for THREE HOURS without soda!! and then during the whole movie this slut in front of us was talking on her CELL PHONE about how her next door neighbor's shit zoo had just given birth to puppies, now what in the hell, PUPPIES, who effing cares!! turn off your god damn phone you hippy

    then there was this baby next to us that kept CRYING, now if you have a loud baby take some advice from me (george) and leave the god damn thing at HOME now do you got that!! have a little bit of courtesy for your fellow man now do you got that, all in all it was the worst moviegoing experience of the year and i cannot understand these nominations

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  8. Re:nominated for ...... by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 4, Funny
    most wooden delivery of lines.

    shurely the matrix reloaded wins that one hands down?

  9. Master and Commander by Speare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I gave high marks to Master and Commander for their coverage of the tiniest technical details of period naval warfare, and while I thought the foley work of the battle scenes was truly visceral, and while I enjoyed the basic setting and premise in which the characters found themselves, I was really let down by the movie.

    It's a thirty minute plot, at most. It can be summed up as "whups, I guess we fucked THAT up, but let's not let that happen again..." about five times in a row. That's it. We blundered, let's move on. Oops, again. Ouch, let's try to avoid that. And oops, we didn't think of that.

    It's like the premise behind Moby Dick. Have you read it? Incredible details, no plot. But a movie can't capture these details to a tenth of the degree that print can. You need story. You need arc. You need something to advance and change.

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  10. Irony is... by Cutriss · · Score: 4, Funny

    Irony is Disney getting nominated for Best Original Screenplay for Finding Nemo...

    And truthfully, while it was another exceptional movie for Pixar, I didn't find it all that entertaining. Give me Monsters Inc. or a Miyazaki movie any day.

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  11. No cinematography? by Patik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of all categories, I expected to seem them nominated (and win) in this one. The cinematography was easily the best I've seen in years. Without that ROTK wouldn't be nearly as good -- it added to the tone tremendously.

  12. Considering the competition, they have a shot by cryptochrome · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually the only other movie I saw on the list was Lost in Translation. The closer you look at the film itself the more flaws you see. The script is full of cliches (particularly when you think who the director is) but thankfully spends most of the time observing the characters being themselves - and Bill Murray put in what is without a doubt the finest and most honest performance in his career. He totally deserves best actor.

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  13. Top 10 ROTK Nominations by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    10. Biggest scifi/fantasy genre movie WITHOUT a character that looks like the Oscar statue (Bye, C-3PO!)
    9. Best performance by mountain beacons
    8. Biggest elephants
    7. Best Evil Lighthouse in any movie in all of 2003.
    6. The National Cherry Tomato Board would like to make sure that John Noble is nominated for best actor for his work as Denethor.
    5. "Most Costumed Geeks in Theatre since Star Trek 6"
    4. Best use of recycled pointed ears left over from collapsed "Star Trek" franchise.
    3 rings for the elven kings
    2. Best title ripped off from that of 3rd "Star Wars" film.
    1. Those cheesy green ghosts didn't get nominated for "Eddie Murphy Haunted Mansion". Let's nominate them for their ROTK cameo instead.

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  14. For all three by rm007 · · Score: 4, Informative
    There is an interesting article in the Guardian which discusses the RotK nominations in light of the lack of attention for the major Oscars for the first two. Here is a short excerpt:

    Undeniably the success of Jackson's epic has left Hollywood with a slight case of egg-on-face. This was a trilogy shot right outside the establishment orbit; filmed in Jackson's native New Zealand and funded by the independent New Line Cinema after original backers Miramax demanded that the entire story be condensed into a single two-hour movie.

    In the view of many experts, The Lord of the Rings was shaping up to be the biggest disaster in cinema history. Now it has gone down as one of its greatest triumphs. Evidence suggests that February 29 will be the date of Hollywood's official mea culpa. Assuming that Return of the King wins best picture (and you'd be a fool to bet against it), it will in effect be an award for all three films. The same goes for Jackson's probable nod as best director.

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  15. Note by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No anime in the best animated picture category. Nemo will win, allowing Disney another "me too" moment at the Oscars.

    Meanwhile, anime yawns and breaks the $4 billion mark.

    Disney's response? Brother Bear.

    That about wraps it up.

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  16. RotK vs. Lost in Translation by MuParadigm · · Score: 5, Insightful


    It's possible that RotK could win Best Film and Best Director. Best Director seem almost obvious, until you consider that no woman has ever won the Best Director award before. In fact, only two women have previously been nominated, Lina Wertmuller and Jane Campion.

    This raise the question of whether women in the Academy will vote for Coppola, to see a woman get the award for once and set a precedent. It's not as if Coppola doesn't deserve it either, she made a delightful and semi-profiund film on a 3 million dollar budget.

    Of course, Jackson's achievement with The Lord Of The Rings is amazing and probably the largest single project a director has ever taken on, so he deserves it too.

    All I'm saying is don't be too surprised if there's an surprise upset, for Coppola, in these two categories. Coppola has a strong chance, especially since RotK may be considered a "boy" film by female members of the Academy.

    1. Re:RotK vs. Lost in Translation by shelleymonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even though this has been dubbed "the year of the female director," i don't think she'll get best director. Coppola will get Best Screenplay, and Best Director will either go to Peter Jackson or Clint Eastwood. As good as Lost in Translation is, its strength lies more in the script and in the performances.

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    2. Re:RotK vs. Lost in Translation by mooredav · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "It's possible that RotK could win Best Film and Best Director. Best Director seem almost obvious..."

      I think Peter Jackson's effort was a mixed bag of good and bad.

      Technically, it was a huge achievement. This is obvious if you look at the trilogy as a series of still images: Hobbits in the Shire. The Ents gathering in the forest. Armies of orcs marching. Shelob's lair. That's great fantasy.

      The battle scenes had a powerful setup, but when they actually got rolling, it was boring. It was well rendered, but the fights were blunt and obvious. Any decent martial arts film has more entertaining fights, with crazy footwork, interesting character interaction, etc.

      Jackson's work is like a huge industrial skyscraper. It's a big accomplishment, but it's not pretty like a cathedral.

      Lord of the Rings didn't develop relationships between characters properly. Where is the romance between Aragorn and his elf bride? Where is the friendship between Sam and Frodo? Jackson needed some better dialog to establish that friendship, and he did not deliver. Consequently, you see comments about those two hobbits being "gay". Jackson needed to give people a reason to believe that they were friends. Without that reason, they are just "gay".

      What Jackson did is standard movie fare: the characters give dramatic looks, but all they say is: "Sam!" or "Gandalf!"

      Contrast that to Lost in Translation or In America, two movies with dialog and human interaction that is actually worth remembering. They were emotional and enjoyable in ways that Peter Jackson was insensitive to.

  17. Attention RotK fans... by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... Annie Hall will win best picture. Get over it.

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  18. The Far Side of the World by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was disappointed that this movie had nothing to do with Gary Larson.

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  19. Cold Mountain by 3Suns · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's interesting that they basically ignored Cold Mountain... when it came out everyone was crying "Oscar bait!" I mean, if a decent Civil War epic love story, featuring a host of Academy Award winners and nominees, directed by the same man as a previous Best Picture, and released by Miramax can't even get nominated, what does that say about the Academy? Maybe they aren't so shallow after all...

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  20. Non-Traditional Split Expected by MissMarvel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the first 20 years of Oscar's history it was traditional for the Best Director and Best Picture Oscars to be awarded to the same film.

    Then in 1948, they split for the first time with the Best Director Oscar going to John Huston for "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" and Best Picture going to "Hamlet".

    Since 1948 the two Oscars have split only 11 more times in the 75 years of Oscar's history. The past 20 years have seen only 4 splits.

    This year I suspect there will again be a split with Peter Jackson being awarded the Best Director Oscar and "Lost in Translation" getting Best Picture. There's no way they will allow Jackson's achievement on his 3 fabulous LOTR movies to go unrecognized, but I think it's generally thought that "Lost in Translation" is the better film. So it would seem reasonable they'll split the awards in an effort to recognize both films.

    Only time will tell.

  21. Puhleaze. by gosand · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Agreed, I was incredibly disappointed to hear Sean Astin didn't get a nod for his performance as Sam. Easily the most moving performance I've seen in a long time, and he pulled it off perfectly.

    I don't get it. Really, I don't. I don't understand all the hubub around this movie. It was good. That's it. The acting wasn't all that great folks. Take off your fanboi glasses and look at it for what it really was.

    I have never read the books, nor should I to fully appreciate a movie - after all, movies are never as good as books. That being said, here are a few observations about ROTK that you probably haven't heard...

    The outcome was pre-determined. I knew what was going to happen, I could tell how it was going to end. It was predictable. Remember, I didn't know the story.

    The whole thing where you think that Gollum was killed, then he comes back right at the climax - cheesy.

    I found the Hobbits to be very annoying, especially Sam. They were just too corny for me.

    Battle scenes - ugh. Sure, they were fantastic, but bordered on cheesy. Oh no, we are about to be defeated AGAIN. Whee, here come some eagles to save us. It just got a little tired.

    I know a lot of people hold this story very dear and may take offense at my comments (I am sure I'll be modded appropriately), but I am looking at the MOVIE with no pre-conceptions. If anything, I watched the trilogy to see what all the hype was about. I still really don't know.

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