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Virtual Dummy To Try On Clothes

Roland Piquepaille writes "BBC News reports that Toshiba is working with a Japanese software company to create a 3-D fashion simulator that will allow virtual modelling and coordination of clothes, cosmetics and accessories in real time. This means that by as early as 2006, you will no longer have to contortion yourself in a minuscule fitting room. 'Video cameras snap the shopper, then clothes and accessories are selected and displayed immediately. The process of turning the images of the shopper into photo-realistic avatar -- or virtual representation -- happens in real-time.' This summary contains more details and references. It also contains images of a virtual model trying different clothes and accessories adapted to different backgrounds."

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  1. They just don't get it by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People don't try on cloths to see what the cloths look like. They can do that by just looking at them. People try cloths on to see how they fit - ie, how big their boobs/asses look.

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    1. Re:They just don't get it by Kobal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unlike males, most women actually care about coordinating their clothes, with themselves but also with their hair style and make up. So this tool looks great for picking clothes to try. Much better than a paper catalog, even if the pictures are beautiful (actually, even more so, pictures of obnoxiously slim models are frustrating.)
      As for trying them, you're talking about a ritual that can't be pushed aside. Fit, yes, but that's also the only way of getting the feel of the clothes.

    2. Re:They just don't get it by RevRa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. There is no way in hell that I'll ever trust a computer simulation or robot to tell me how clothes are either going to look on me or how they're going to fit.

      I can pick out something that'll coordinate and look great on a manequin, but it'll look like crap on me. I don't care if the manequin is my identical twin, it's still not the same.

      Years ago I was given a free program at a women's expo...something virtual makeover whatever. I could scan a photo of myself, and try all sorts of makeup on the photo. I played with it for about 15 minutes before I decided that there's no way they could simulate what the makeup was going to look like on MY skin, and un-installed the program.

      I'm pretty confident the dummy/model/whatever would turn out the same way. Interesting to try once or twice, but I'd never rely on it or use it for any "serious" clothing/accessory purchase.

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    3. Re:They just don't get it by grosa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People don't try on cloths to see what the cloths look like. They can do that by just looking at them. People try cloths on to see how they fit - ie, how big their boobs/asses look.

      ya, sure. but what about when you're shopping for your wife/gf and don't want to drag them along to see how clothes will fit her? wouldn't it be handy to just have a model of her body that you could take to a store with you?

      also, some people don't like trying on clothes that ten other sweaty people tried on before you.
      there's a reason most stores don't let you try on underwear.

    4. Re:They just don't get it by tommertron · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'd never rely on it or use it for any "serious" clothing/accessory purchase.

      I don't think this will ever replace trying clothes on. But imagine going to the store and quickly cycling through pants/shirts... you give good ratings to the ones you think look good on you, then collect just clothes that you gave a good rating to.

      This seems a really efficient way of shopping, actually. Even if it's not a perfect match, you still get a general impression of what doesn't look good on you. Then you don't have to waste your time trying those on. Way more efficient than trying on all those clothes, isn't it? And as a vain nerd, I can appreciate that kind of efficiency.
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    5. Re:They just don't get it by RevRa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But you don't understand. Women are not about efficiency. :-) Shopping is an experience that cannot and should not be "computerized".

      Now, if they had some sort of system where I could say, "Find me one just like this but in size 12." THAT would be nice. Greppable clothing racks would be neat, perhaps there's a non-evil use for RFID after all?

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    6. Re:They just don't get it by mark-t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's more to how something fits than how it looks -- how it actually _feels_ to be wearing is something else to consider. Clothing may look just fine but still be damn uncomfortable. So how will looking at yourself in a computer screen convey this information?

  2. Hmm... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is my coffee defective, or is this concept just underwhelming?

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  3. Commercial Biasing? by slifox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After these roll out, how long would it be until the software is modified to bias how you look?

    It could make you more "perfect," and you would buy that dress!

  4. Shops altering your body to sell more? by aralin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How long before large shopping chains will start to hack these programs to alter the shopper's virtual body to fit the clothes better, so they can make better sales?

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  5. That only solves some problems by dsplat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First of all, the same size is never the same size is never the same size. If you really want to know whether the clothes fit, you have to put them on. A second, related point is whether the clothes are comfortable. No matter how good they look, in the end you need to wear them.

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  6. Yeah right. by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see how you could buy clothing without trying it on.

    How many times have you run into clothes that are either mislabeled, or cut too small?

    I've learned the hard way that it's always better to spend the 10 minutes trying stuff on in the store, rather than spend an hour on a return trip.

    So I think this modelling scheme is useless. Unless of course that XL shirt is really an XL and not an L.

    Also, you need to experience how clothes feel. Do they look cool when you look in the mirror? Do they feel good on you? Does that sweater itch your arms? A model can't tell you this.

    I'm all for progress, but it has to be practical. Especially when it involves me spending money on something.

    wbs.

    You always need to try on clothes.

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  7. Marketing Improvements by allrong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long before the representations are secretly tweaked (displaywaist = size 6) so that the shopper will "look good" in the clothes? And I can see the tie-ins with advertisers, with avatars saying things like:

    "Hi shopper, this is what you look like now, but here's what you would look like (shrinks waist) if you go the XXX diet!".

    Just wait until the kids start hacking it!

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  8. People are just getting too lazy.... by ThomasFlip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because its really so hard to walk ten feet and try on new clothes. On another note when I try on clothes I like to see how they feel(ie too tight/loose), and I like to see what it looks like up close in a mirror, also what if the computer some how manipulated the clothes to make you look better than you really do look? Your probably just going to end up trying them on eventually anyways. And besides, is it really that difficult to visualize yourself with a shirt on ? I should hope not. This is a stupid idea and it will never work.

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  9. Re:Oh, great. by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what happens to these representations of people after they're done using the system? Does it remain there for others to laugh at (or do other, much less socially acceptable things with them)?

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  10. Nope by donutello · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I fully expect that most retailers would have a version of the software in which your big, fat butt doesn't look quite as big or fat in the clothes you're modeling. People want to buy clothes that make them look good and it is the job of the software to convince them that they look good in those clothes.

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  11. Beware the absent-minded response! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful


    > After these roll out, how long would it be until the software is modified to bias how you look?

    "Honey, do these pants make my ass look big?"

    "No darling, it's your ass that makes the pants look big."

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  12. You try clothes on for comfort, not just for size. by Trogre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'Video cameras snap the shopper, then clothes and accessories are selected and displayed immediately.

    And I suppose the virtual models tell you which bits chafe?

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  13. By this logic, catalog shopping is out, too by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, it's better than looking at a picture in a catalog, and people have been buying clothes that way for years.

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  14. Re:Lands End by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yes. Yes they have. The big selling point of the system in the article is that you don't pick from predifined body-types but rather have your own scanned into the system. Unless you're willing to strip for the scanner I don't think the scanned models would be much more accurate than the pre-defined ones currently in use.

  15. Image over substance by ozbird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't try on clothes to see how they look - I can see what hideously colours and styles they have just by looking at the rack. I try on clothes to find out how they feel - if it isn't comfortable, I ain't wearing it (even if my bum doesn't look fat...)