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UserLinux Will Support KDE

kollum writes "Bruce Perens has revealed that UserLinux will now support KDE commercially. It seems there is a demand for a KDE plan afterall."

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  1. Re:Nothing new here by StormReaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "So really, nothing has changed."

    Something has changed. This customer will not have to go out of his way to get Qt/KDE onto his systems, as Perens LLC will make sure that they are preloaded.

    We all should be painfully aware of the power of preloads vs. the weakness of non-preloads. All desktop systems should be have both GNOME and KDE preloaded and ready, as neither desktop has a lock on desirable applications, and both desktops have higly useful applications.

    The only predictable result of not doing so is a large segment of somewhat pissed users who will claim that Linux is hard because it makes users work too hard to get the basic libraries in place for the applications they want to run.

  2. Re:Perens LLC, not UserLinux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > KDE is at least as good as Gnome

    KDE is technically not AS GOOD as GNOME, no it's far supperior over GNOME in many ways. Something usually developers can talk about since they offer the technical skills to do so.

    The normal people usually bash about what they prefer to use rather than giving good constructive feedback.

    > So why are only a select few distro's using it as the default WM?

    First of all, neither KDE nor GNOME are Window Managers, they are Desktop Environments. A complete different thing but important word to say. People usually talk about GNOME and KDE but don't even know the difference about WM's and DE's and thus it makes me wonder why they talk at all.

    Actually KDE is being used in a wide range of distributions and the amount of distros using KDE as default Desktop Environment is far higher than you want to make us believe here.

    Please first learn the difference between WM and DE and then come back talking and judging about KDE.

  3. kettle calling pot black by iksrazal_br · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'm confused. Perens prefers not to include KDE because they have a lgpl strategy to make money, yet userlinux will charge money to include it. WTF?

    Ignore KDE and I ignore userlinux, its that simple.

  4. Re:Perens LLC, not UserLinux by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, there's SUSE, Mandrake, Lindows, Xandros, Lycoris, Conectiva and several others that use KDE as their default. Distros that use GNOME as default are Red Hat/Fedora and UserLinux (are there others?). Rest are desktop-agnostic.

    So it would seem that there are more distros useing KDE as default than there are distros using GNOME as default.

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  5. Re:Reality 1. Bruce 0. by Pentagram · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So he's listened to his critics, considered the arguments, changed his mind to come around to your point of view and you're flaming him anyway? That's not exactly the best way to gain future converts.

  6. Can't believe the outrage by GauteL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are several KDE-only distributions around (Xandros, Lycoris, Lindows), yet no GNOMErs seem to care all that much.

    The minute someone tries to create a GNOME-only desktop system, like UserLinux, a flock of people (slashbots) go mental about it. What is the point? There is plenty of room for an integrated GNOME-only desktop.

    Choice is good people say, but including both desktop-systems make integration issues a lot more difficult, and resources could be better spent elsewhere.

    Plus if choice is good, then having the choice of a GNOME-only desktop is good. Include KDElibs and Qt, and people can still run their KDE-apps.

  7. I don't see any change in his position. by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His COMPANY is willing to provide KDE on UL for a PAYING CUSTOMER.

    He is NOT saying that KDE will be included with UL.

    He never said that KDE could NOT support a "cottege industry". What he had said was that he wanted to give anyone setting up a "cottege industry" the option to do so without having to pay any license fees to anyone.

    He never said that QT wasn't free. He said that, in this instance, he wanted the LGPL instead of the GPL. Again, this is for his "cottege industry".

    He has still NOT changed his choice to limit the software included in UL. He still isn't including KDE, but his company will add it on FOR A PRICE.

    Hey, if you don't like UL, then don't use it. If it was based on poor choices, then it will fail.

    For my part, seeing that Bruce ALREADY has a PAYING CUSTOMER lined up for his company, it seems he has made the correct choice. Bruce will have credibility amongst the people who use UL. I'm sure he doesn't lose any sleep over what other people think.