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Expert Says Glass Is Major Threat to Birds

dlkf writes "According this AP article, 'Glass is ubiquitous and it's indiscriminate, killing the fit and the unfit... estimates (are) that collisions with glass kill up to 1 billion birds a year in the United States alone.' First wind turbines and now glass. What will they come up with next..."

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  1. Heh... by DiscoOnTheSide · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just like walls and other cars are a major threat to drivers, porn sites to computer geeks, and a job in the real world for all those heavily pierced freaks. I don't consider this THAT newsworthy... :) (Not Trolling, just burning some midnight karma. :))

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  2. What you can't see... by narratorDan · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...can't hurt you so relax Bob, and keep flying sou..[THUD!]

    "Look mommy a dead parrot!"

    NarratorDan

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    1. Re:What you can't see... by cujo_1111 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mr. Praline : 'Ello. I wish to register a complaint. (The owner has his back to the register and does not respond.) Mr. Praline : 'Ello, Miss?

      Owner : (turning around, very angry) What do you mean, "miss"?

      Mr. Praline : I'm sorry, I have a cold. (The owner nods, understanding.) I wish to make a complaint!

      Owner : (hurriedly) Sorry, we're closin' for lunch...!

      Mr. Praline : Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot, what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

      Owner : Oh yes, the, ah, the Norwegian Blue... What's, ah... W-what's wrong with it?

      Mr. Praline : I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's dead, that's what's wrong with it.

      Owner : No, no, 'e's ah... he's resting.

      Mr. Praline : Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

      Owner : No no, h-he's not dead, he's, he's restin'!

      Mr. Praline : Restin'?

      Owner : Y-yeah, restin.' Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, isn't it, eh? Beautiful plumage!

      Mr. Praline : The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead!

      Owner : Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!

      Mr. Praline : All right then, if he's resting, I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Polly! Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you wake up, Mr. Polly Parrot... (owner hits the cage)

      Owner : There, he moved!

      Mr. Praline : No, he didn't, that was you pushing the cage!

      Owner : I never!!

      Mr. Praline : Yes, you did!

      Owner : I never, never.... (He pulls the parrot out of the cage and screams into its ear.)

      Mr. Praline : 'ELLO POLLAAAAAAAY! POLL-EE! POLLY PARROT! WAKE UP! (He bangs its head against the store counter, horribly hard.) TESTIIIING! TESTIIIING! THIS IS YOUR NINE-O' CLOCK ALARM CALL! (He does it again, harder.) POLL-EEEEEEE!
      (He tosses it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor. Longish pause.) Now that's what I call a dead parrot.

      Owner : No, no.... No, he's stunned.

      Mr. Praline : STUNNED?

      Owner : Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.

      Mr. Praline : Look my lad, I've had just about enough of this. That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I bought it not half an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it being tired and shagged out after a long squawk.

      Owner : Well, he's... he's, ah... probably pining for the fjords. (Praline looks angrily back and forth, stuttering.)

      Mr. Praline : PININ' for the FJORDS? What kind of talk is that? Look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?

      Owner : The Norwegian Blue prefers kippin' on its back! Remarkable bird, isn't it, guv, eh? Lovely plumage!

      Mr. Praline : (coldly) Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. (pause)

      Owner : Well, of course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its little pecker, and VOOM!

      Mr. Praline : "VOOM?" (Praline puts the cage down and take the parrot into his hands.)

      Mr. Praline : Look matey, this parrot wouldn't "voom" if you put four thousand volts through it! It's bleedin' demised!

      Owner : It's not! I-It's pining!

      Mr. Praline : It's not pinin,' it's passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed him to the perch he would be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolical processes are of interest only to historians! It's hopped the twig! It's shuffled off this mortal coil! It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! This.... is an EX-PARROT! (pause)

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  3. Legislation is the answer by Catskul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ban Glass !
    The greedy Glass manufacturing Corperations are out to ruin our envrionment !.

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  4. Natural alarm clock by nocomment · · Score: 2, Funny

    I used to have a bird that crashed into my window every morning at 6:30 sharp. Then one day it stopped. I wondered if it moved but I guess it died.

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  5. not much can be done about this by bersl2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem, of course, is not the glass; it's this pesky desire of ours to have transparent artificial barriers as part of our dwellings---something which will not go away.

    Much of the time, my sympathies lie mostly with the animals; but in this case, they're kinda on their own. Survival of the fittest...

    May they all live long enough to have more sex than I do...

    (Which leads me to a deep thought: right now, at this very moment, millions (billions?) of creatures are having sex. None of them are me.)

    Goddamn I need sleep...

    1. Re:not much can be done about this by bhima · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here in Austria we have the shadows of predator birds on most glass stuff that the goverment puts up. Not on houses or buildings but on highway dividers and bus stops and things like that. I supose it helps, but I really don't know.

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    2. Re:not much can be done about this by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Funny
      Here in Austria we have the shadows of predator birds on most glass stuff that the goverment puts up.
      Oh what, the glass isn't enough? You trying to kill all the birds by giving them heart attacks too?! How cruel can you get?!
    3. Re:not much can be done about this by ajagci · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem, of course, is not the glass; it's this pesky desire of ours to have transparent artificial barriers as part of our dwellings---something which will not go away.

      You're right--it won't go away. Just like that pesky desire to pollute or to take over all arable land. However, desires can be curbed, and it is a mark of civilization that we do curb our desires and don't live out every one of them.

      In the case of glass, there are plenty of architectural ways in which we can have brightly lit dwellings with gorgeous views without creating traps for birds.

      Much of the time, my sympathies lie mostly with the animals; but in this case, they're kinda on their own. Survival of the fittest...

      Humans are fittest, for now, so, yes, we can kill off all other (large) animals. Trouble is, in the long run, that is not an adaptive strategy for us: we are dependent on a functioning environment. So, what you suggest, namely not worrying about the survival of animals, is, in the long run, maladaptive for us: it will bring about our own extinction.

    4. Re:not much can be done about this by cujo_1111 · · Score: 2, Funny

      May they all live long enough to have more sex than I do...

      That may not be really all that long you know... you are a nerd after all :)

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    5. Re:not much can be done about this by cujo_1111 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you have anything to stop the kangaroos too? :)

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    6. Re:not much can be done about this by ajagci · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article itself talked about some alternatives. In fact, that was the point of the article: it didn't say "no more glass", it said "let's make an effort to make glass more bird-safe". Other alternatives I have seen are silhouettes of predators, nets, screens, careful gardening, and various patterned reflective coatings on the outside.

      Of course, simply having vertical blinds, Venitian blinds, or sheer curtains on the inside will probably already reduce the problem: they look like a solid surface from the outside but stil give you a good view from the inside. Even bug screens probably make windows a little more visible and less reflective from the outside and cushion any collision.

      I suspect birds hitting windows is mostly a problem with modern office buildings, where there is lots of glass, plenty of energy-efficient (=mirror-like) outside coatings, no curtains, and no bug screens.

  6. In Other News... by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 3, Funny


    Eating a leading cause of Heart Disease, Wisconsin man discovers that a red cape will not let you fly, Running full force into a wall "really DOES hurt" according to Arkansas resident, and Kids say the cutest things!!
    yeesh.

    Sera

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  7. What of it by gnalre · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So do domestic cats. What of it.

    Call it evolution in action

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  8. Birds? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Funny
    What about people? Doesn't everybody here have at least one relative/friend who this has happened to?

    In any event, this doesn't affect me. My cats will take down anything within a 100-ft radius of the house, so my windows stay thud-free.

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  9. Birds and windows by moorhens · · Score: 5, Informative
    First, a billion birds sounds like an over-estimate, but even if it isn't it probably won't make any serious difference to any bird populations. Every year, most birds die, which is why they need to raise lots of young to keep going at all. Previous studies of birds vs windows, birds vs traffic, birds vs cats generally show that those that die are effectively part of the natural surplus rather than this being new deaths. Not much comfort for the individual bird, but hey.

    Secondly, most birds that conservationists (and yes, we are as scientific and geeky as the average /. er) are really worried about don't live in built-up areas so the impact with glass is likely to be less of a problem.

    Thirdly, window stickers (especially those shaped like a hawk) can sharply reduce the level of impacts especially against windows that look like a fly-through to somewhere else.

    And finally, when you find a bird that hit a window, someone will say it's broken its neck. Not so. Birds' necks are much longer and more flexible than most people realise until they see a lolling corpse. The commonest cause of death against a window is brain haemorrage.

    1. Re:Birds and windows by xilmaril · · Score: 2, Interesting

      a story to relate.

      a few weeks ago, I was sitting on the computer (what else), when I heard a *thud* and the entire house shook. it was like an earthquake.

      the cause? a local bird (I don't know what they're called. think really big, really fat pheasant) had flown into one of the exterior walls. not a window, mind, a wall. It sat there for about 10 minutes, stunned (time enough for me to take pics of it demolishing a tomato vine), then it stood up, wandered around my yard for a while, and flew off.

      I know houses these days aren't built as solidly as possible, but it still must have been going at an incredible speed to do that.

    2. Re:Birds and windows by jackbird · · Score: 2, Informative
      Secondly, most birds that conservationists (and yes, we are as scientific and geeky as the average /. er) are really worried about don't live in built-up areas so the impact with glass is likely to be less of a problem.

      True, but they migrate through them. The major cities of the Eastern US are on a huge flyway, for example, which is one reason there's a National Wildlife Refuge inside the New York City limits.

  10. Re:and killing birds is bad... why? by ocelotbob · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dunno. I love birds. A little bbq sauce, an open flame, delicious.

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  11. Another reason not to use Windows! by Ron+Bennett · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..."smart" birds avoid running Windows ;)

    Ron

  12. But the impact patterns are BEAUTIFUL! by dpilot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My place of employment has glassed-in corridors between buildings, some of those corridors being multi-story. They have solved the bird problem by placing stick-on silhouettes of some sort of predatory bird, one on every other pane, or so. I haven't seen or heard of a collision, since.

    But back when they were happening, the birds left a beautiful dust pattern on the windows as they hit. It captured incredible levels of detail to the feathers, etc.

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  13. hard-headed Black Woodpecker by ballpoint · · Score: 2, Interesting
    A year ago I heard a big bang and found a dazzled rare (at least in my neck of the woods) Black Woodpecker on the ground. I managed to grab it before the cat did, held it in my hands for 5 minutes letting it come to its senses and let it fly away.

    The bird probably survived because woodpeckers should be well equipped to deal with head-shocking events.

    It's not often that you get to see these birds close up, not to mention hold them and quitely look at them. Quite an experience.

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  14. Neighbour's used to catch crows (ravens in .uk) by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This was twenty-odd years ago, in Paraburdoo. Cat would pretend to be dead, lying in the hot, hot sun until a crow got to the point of actually reaching out to have just a little... BLAM! rude shock. Same cat would regularly beat up and chase away quite large dogs. Never seemed to fight with ours, though.

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  15. Re:No kidding by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Informative
    That's my point. Encounters like that range from the embarrasing all the way up to 'scarred for life with impaired mobility'.

    Thankfully, a low-tech solution is available - just put a damn sticker on the glass on or about average eye level. Works every time.

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  16. Just do what my grandmother does by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    She used to have a real problem with the neighborhood birds picking on her cat and stealing its food. So she goes to one of those "Everything 99 Cents" sh8tholes and picks up a long cord of cheap bright yellow tinsel, the kind you'd spiral around a Christmas tree. She takes that tinsel and wraps it all over her porch railings- up and down around and around, so that it's everywhere. I don't know how much the neighbors' property values suffer but it sure keeps the birds away. It's almost as if they have taste. They don't want to be seen anywhere near that stuff.

  17. Poem by joebok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From Pale Fire by V. Nabokov:

    I was the shadow of the waxwing slain
    By the false azure in the windowpane;
    I was the smudge of ashen fluff--and I
    Lived on, flew on, in the reflected sky.
    And from the inside, too, I'd duplicate
    Myself, my lamp, an apple on a plate:
    Uncurtaining the night, I'd let dark glass
    Hang all the furniture above the grass,
    And how delightful when a fall of snow
    Covered my glimpse of lawn and reached up so
    As to make chair and bed exactly stand
    Upon that snow, out in that crystal land!


    Great book!