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KDE 3.2.0 Released
Quique writes "KDE 3.2 has just been released. The official announcement is available at the KDE site and the source tarballs are being replicated to the mirrors. There are already binary packages for a few distributions. Besides the usual bugfixes and new features, this release has been highly optimized and runs way faster than previous versions. This is a good opportunity for Windows users to migrate to a free desktop."
I've been using the "unoficial" .deb's for a while now, and I gotta say that it really is a major release. Many bug fixes, faster than ever, I haven't seen kde running so smooth since kde1... Now since I had been using it on a teste machine, now all I have to do is wait for it to come in to debian sid to have it on all my desktops!
Great job by a great team.
Gentoo already has this, but it's masked.
/usr/portage/kde-base/kdebase, and there is an ebuild for it:
Go to
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7922 Jan 18 23:35 kdebase-3.0.5b.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3971 Jan 13 12:40 kdebase-3.1.4.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3630 Jan 29 08:42 kdebase-3.1.5.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3084 Feb 2 07:26 kdebase-3.2.0.ebuild
You'll have to unmask it, so see The Masked Packages FAQ at Gentoo.org.
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slackware packages are already available at:. 2/contrib/Slackware/9.1/
http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/3
# ssh -l neo the_matrix; killall -9 agent_smith
that work on integrating kde with OO.o is moving forward. This isn't just a look-n-feel thing, mind you, its much deeper than that. Details in the link.
Yes, unmasking is easy, but the files aren't there yet:
...done! /s -1.2.0.tar.bzs -1.2.0.tar.bz2l ving ftp.easynet.nl... 195.86.128.57
emerge -u kde
Calculating dependencies
>>> emerge (1 of 17) kde-base/arts-1.2.0 to
>>> Downloading http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/distfiles/art
2
--14:28:58-- http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/distfiles/art
=> `/usr/portage/distfiles/arts-1.2.0.tar.bz2'
Reso
Connecting to ftp.easynet.nl[195.86.128.57]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
14:28:58 ERROR 404: Not Found.
Sit back and watch it try all the mirrors it knows. Noone has them. Yet.
Try the debian kde wiki for info on where to get the packages.
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE
It should be going into sid fairly soon. There have been lots of CVS commits on the 3.2 branch and the matainers have made nosies about having a version ready for sid on time for the relese of 3.2.0
466mhz Celeron, 256mb ram, 2.4.x kernel, KDE 3.14 built from source, a lot of things installed to make KDE prettier but not necessarily faster, and a ton of stuff loading during boot. Total time to go from off to mucking around in KDE - ~35 seconds. Total time to go from bash prompt to clicking on pretty icons and stuff - ~10 seconds.
Time it took to go from off to clicking on pretty icons in Win2K on the same machine: Well over a minute, possibly two. Can even play movies with mplayer without a skip that would be unwatchable in Windows.
More than fast enough for me.
ftp://ibiblio.org (28 hours)
ftp://kde.us.themoes.org (11 hours)
http://mirrors.isc.org (14 hours)
http://ibiblio.org (28 hours)
http://mirrors.midco.net (8 hours)
http://ftp.us.kde.org (10 hours)
ftp://kde.pandmservices.com (11 hours)
http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu (11 hours)
ftp://ftp.rutgers.edu (9 hours)
ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu (24 hours)
http://ftp.rutgers.edu (9 hours)
http://kde.oregonstate.edu (24 hours)
http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu (13 hours)
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu (11 hours)
ftp://mirror.xmission.com (29 hours)
ftp://ftp.us.kde.org (10 hours)
ftp://mirrors.midco.net (8 hours)
You want binary packages? You get them from a distributor. That's what distributors do. They take .tar.gz packages; they compile them, setting options in a way they consider sane; they package them up in a binary package; and they offer it for download.
.rpm packages. But you'd do as well to just download the source tarballs and compile them yourself, taking notes as you go along. Distributors will take your requests much more seriously if you can show you've tried something. In my experience, source .tar.gz files are the way to install software; more reliable and more configurable. You could even -- shock, horror -- create your own binary package from the source you downloaded and compiled!
KDE just provide source packages, which will compile -- with perhaps a little tweaking -- on any setup which is computationally complete enough. Out of the goodness of their own hearts, they link to binary packages that other people have created; but the job of making it easy for non-programmers to install software falls to distributors. Think of it this way: the KDE developers are like farmers, growing basic food ingredients. Meat, milk, eggs, veg, grains. You can get really fresh ingredients from a farm, but you still have to prepare them before you can eat them. And that takes hard work. The distributors - Debian, Red Hat / Fedora, SUSE and so forth - are like chefs, taking those ingredients and preparing them in a ready-to-eat form. Sometimes that limits your options as a consumer; but nobody is stopping you buying fresh ingredients and preparing and cooking them your own way.
If you really can't spell make you could just keep pestering your distributor to provide you with
Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
works out of the box (possibly given a visit to Windows Update),
:)
If we consider pre installed machines, so does Linux. If you don't - well, I had a lot easier time installing Knoppix than I had installing Windows XP.
autodetects all your hardware (some Linux distros do this yes, but not nearly as well),
A (the only) valid point.
does NOT get you rooted because the security is there if you know how to use it (and not use IE/Outlook),
What you're saying is "If I do all the right things, and keep patching all the time, it's fairly secure.". Please name a modern OS this isn't true for.
does play all the latest games and software which I need (the alternatives suck, try comparing Photoshop with GIMP),
Silly comparison. Adobe costs $650. GIMP is free. For most people $650 is a bit too much to cough up. So yes - most (far from all) software is available. Paying for all the software I need however, would consume most of my income.
does have free and competent technical support available which does not have "STFU NOOB" in its vocabulary,
Again, a silly and very subjective statement. I've found technical linux support extremely helpful and accessible. I don't know where you look, or how you behave, to be treated like that - but I can assure you that similar places can be found when looking for Windows help.
does not require me to devote a significant amount of my free time just to get it installed and working semi-well.
Well, this is pretty much reiterating your first point (sure looks better with a longer list though). But please, tell me how much amount of your free time is consumed by inserting a boot CD and then asking it to install the working system to HD. Granted, if you're on the net Knoppix does ask for some IP config parameters - so that's more than a two step procedure...
I don't have the patience to bother with Linux, so I don't use it, simple as that. People who think everyone can and should switch today are idiots and don't deserve a +5 moderation.
One could of course argue that people who have so strong opinions about how something works, even though they they admit that they don't use it are idiots too...
May we live long and die out
Konqueror in 3.2 has been vastly improved..
- rewritten tab support
- a lot faster
- better standards compliance (many patches from Safari)
It's replaced Firebird as my main browser. I can't say that Konqueror renders as many pages as good as Mozilla yet, but it's getting there. Hopefully with Apple's Safari/Webcore 1.2 coming out in a few months and more syncing between KDE and Apple, Konqueror in KDE 3.3 is going to be great.