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Kazaa Offices Raided

rj writes "ZDNet Australia is reporting the Music Industry Piracy Investigations (MIPI) this morning raided the offices of Kazaa owners, Sharman Networks, along with P2P company Brilliant Digital Entertainment, and the homes of key executives. Background on prosecution of copyright music in Australia over P2P is also available."

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  1. third of nine by thirdofnine · · Score: 5, Informative
    Channel Nine in Sydney reported that they also raided Telstra Head Office, Monash University and the University of NSW, all for file trading.

    Third of Nine

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  2. Anton Pillar order by DreamerFi · · Score: 3, Informative
    The article (I read it, sorry - I'll hand in my slashdot ID at the end of this posting) mentions an "Anton Pillar order. From that article:

    One of the most painful aspects of all is the requirement after the order is served, usually within 14 days, to provide documentary evidence to the court, which PROVES that you own the software that is the subject of the court order (and may extend to PROVING that ALL software is legally acquired), by showing software compliance registers (an inventory approach), license numbers, discs and manuals, AND originals of all invoices from the SUPPLIERS of the software that you own.


    -John
    1. Re:Anton Pillar order by cthugha · · Score: 3, Informative

      If someone brings a frivolous action then they're likely to have costs awarded against them on an indemnity basis (as opposed to costs on a standard basis if they just lost without having been shown to have acted frivolously). Furthermore, a lawyer who assists in bringing a case s/he knows is baseless and is done for some ulterior purpose is likely to be forced to indemnify the client for costs, and may face disciplinary proceedings.

      Both the crime and tort of barratry have, however, been abolished in most Australian jurisdictions.

  3. Re:Not likely by rock_climbing_guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't the Kazaa network designed so that it doesn't rely on a central server? In that case, even if the company disappears, the network should still be around as long as people are wanting to use it to trade music.

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  4. Anton Pillar orders explained. by ratzmilk · · Score: 5, Informative
    We have Anton Pillar orders here in Oz because we are part of the British Commonwealth and the Queen of England is our Head of Start, and one of their (our) Lords made the follow ruling.

    In Anton Piller K.G. v. Manufacturing Processes Ltd., [1976] 1 All E.R. 779 at 782 Lord Denning stated:

    "Let me say at once that no court in this land has any power to issue a search warrant to enter a man's house so as to see if there are papers or documents there which are of an incriminating nature, whether libels or infringements of copyright or anything else of the kind. No constable or bailiff can knock at the door and demand entry so as to inspect papers or documents. The householder can shut the door in his face and say, 'Get out.' That was established in the leading case of Entick v. Carrington (1765), 19 State Tr. 1029. None of us would wish to whittle down that principle in the slightest. But the order sought in this case is not a search warrant. It does not authorize the plaintiff's solicitors or anyone else to enter the defendants' premises against their will. Id does not authorize the breading down of any doors, nor the slipping in by a back door, nor getting in by an open door or window. It only authorizes entry and inspection by the permission of the defendants. The plaintiff's must get the defendants' permission. But it does do this: it brings pressure on the defendants to give permission. It does more. It actually orders them to give permission - with, I suppose, the result that if they do not give permission they are guilty of contempt of court."

    As you can see, you can if you so chose deny access, but you had better have a pretty good reason.

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  5. Australian law allows police to search by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Informative
    IANAL however my parents are Australian lawyers (in the states of New South Wales and Victoria, not Queensland) so I aksed them.

    Australian law allows a warrant to be issued providing that a Justice of the Peace has been convinced that there is reasonable grounds for suspecting that there is evidence of a crime on the premises.

    I don't know how this compares with the US justice system and whether this was only granted by the patriot act (I doubt it). This has been the case for many years.

    This is an invetigation of kazaa and it is reasonable that police be able to investigate suspected crimes wherever the evidence may be, otherwise criminals could conceal evidence in their homes and be totally immune to investigation.

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  6. Not the first time and it's getting worse by villoks · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well,

    This has happened before in the USA and other countries, too. For example Cult of Scientology used to be famous for its raids to the critics' homes (Zenon's case,other cases

    The situation is also getting worse in Europe, because the upcoming IPR enforcement directive will greatly strenghen Anton Pillar orders in all member states (unless we will manage to mount enough public pressure to stop the process, which is unlikely but not totally impossible - contact your MEPS today!)

    V.

  7. Re:Not likely by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Informative

    Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't the Kazaa network designed so that it doesn't rely on a central server? In that case, even if the company disappears, the network should still be around as long as people are wanting to use it to trade music.

    You are correct, but your conclusion is not (and it's not your fault, either -- it's good ol' politics and business obscuring good clean engineering).

    Kazaa operates in a fairly decentralized manner. At one point, the FastTrack network (what Kazaa uses internally) was open. However, the protocol was reverse engineered (by the GiFT project members and others), and third party clients started popping up. The FastTrack folks sold licenses to use their network -- plus, the use of an open protocol was detrimental to the client vendors, like Kazaa, as it meant that users could choose a (nicer) spyware-free client. The protocol was modified to contain an authentication system that *is* centralized. If Kazaa (the company) won't authorize you, you can't use the network.

    The addition of the authentication system was a huge step back from an engineering standpoint, but a huge jump forward from a business one -- it make Kazaa very lucrative.

  8. this was Fortune Magazine Cover Story by peter303 · · Score: 3, Informative
  9. Actually by JMZero · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of porn companies apparently put samples on the file sharing networks as ads. Some apparently even include popups of their sites embedded in wmv's.

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