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Satellite Programming for Free?

Frank Winstead asks: "I stumbled upon some "Free to air" (FTA) satellite television references on the web, mostly selling equipment. There seems to be a lot of non-English programming available subscription-Free on the Ku band. The English programming seems to be a mix of religious shows, network feeds, and unexplained content from American over-the-air TV stations. Is it worth a one time ~$200 investment for equipment? Is the authoritative info on FTA?"

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  1. Why not? by DynaSoar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You'll be getting essentialy what wasn't worth scrambling and selling when the cable companies took over the space waves. There are still people out there with the big dishes (and I sold some of them) who only get this stuff unless they got the new little dish too. Consider it the short wave of TV; not to replace the other, but a neat thing in itself. You *might* catch program feeds before regular broadcast times.

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  2. If nothing else by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 3, Funny

    At the very least it will increase your geek coefficient.

  3. Re:I'd love... by heliocentric · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I drink from the FIRE HOSE?

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  4. Lots of stuff in FTA satellite feeds by hectorh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is quite a bit of feeds in the old Ku band. It seems that the networks have forgotten that people can pick up Ku band too. I guess they don't care too much since the BUD (Big Ugly dishes) are not very common anymore.

    There are all sorts of tv shows that you can pick up, such as:
    - news feeds
    - live feeds
    - tv show feeds (for example, you can watch the episodes of "24" at least a couple of days before they are shown on the regular chanels)

    There are plenty of websites that give frequencies, polarizations and longitude for the various satellites out there. I won't provide any, but they are a mere google search away.

    As for equipment, $200 sounds about right for a good setup. Check eBay, you can find good deals there too.

    There was a session at last year's (2003) defcon about FTA satellite tv.

    Hope this info helps

    1. Re:Lots of stuff in FTA satellite feeds by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are all sorts of tv shows that you can pick up, such as:
      - news feeds


      These are the best if you're bored, because the newspeople go live on the satellite many minutes before they go live on the network, to make sure the link is good. The correspondents and crew say some pretty funny and embarassing stuff when they think noone is watching them.

      So, if seeing your favorite political corresponant talk about how "this town is so fucking boring" when they're covering caucuses in Iowa strikes you as funny, get a BUD.

      Oh, and most people are giving them away, so don't pay $200, take it down for free for somebody who got DSS.

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  5. Free-to-Air listing by timothv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a free-to-air satellite TV listing for North America: http://www.milliron.net/free2air/Default.htm

  6. Lyngsat by Hungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lyngsat is the place for FTA Sat information.

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  7. The times, they are a-changin' by mhollis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, my credentials: I worked in satellite transmission about 19 years ago and had a pretty good handle on what was what back then. I currently work for a national television network out of NYC. I know what has changed and what will be happening in the next few years.

    On all satellites in Clarke orbits (Geostationary, first proposed by Arthur C. Clarke yes that one) the transponders are simple "Repeat what you just received" gizmoes. On the older ones, they'll continue to send back FTA stuff as they receive it but there is a movement afoot to cheapen the use of satellites by digitizing signals and using the bandwidth better by compression. This started happening first with C band satellites because C band is so expensive. C band also is less prone to rain fade and atmospheric problems.

    Presently, the K band is on the chopping block (as in let's chop this one transponder by digitally-encoding several signals into the space of one) and you will notice, as time goes by, that a lot more transponders will "become encoded." This is not all about preventing you, dear reader, from getting the signals. It is being done for cost reasons alone.

    At the network level, it is believed that the viewer cannot see the difference between the compressed and uncompressed signals and the non-compressed signals. While this may become a factor with the adoption of HDTV by the consumer, the network executives just don't care that much about quality these days. The assumption is that the viewer will tune in regardless.

    So look for a steady decrease in the number of signals your big dish can pick up as time goes on.

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