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Mozilla Firebird gets .8 Release, and New Name
Yage writes "Firebird, the lightweight version of Mozilla gets release 0.8 and changes its name again (remember Phoenix?) to avoid confusion with another OSS project. The new name is Firefox. There's a press release out about the name change and new version. And, as usual, download it from
mozilla.org." Worth noting that ThunderBird .5 has been released as well. Update: 02/09 14:55 GMT by H : Thanks to Steve Garrity for pointing out the name change FAQ.
Stop playing name games. That's the sort of thing that can really hurt adoption.
TODO: Something witty here...
You know, I wish they would stop changing their name. I use Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox as my sole browser and absolutely enjoy it. The problem is, I am trying to get my family to use it as well, but trying to keep them straight on what it is called is getting a little ridiculous.
Conversation with family: "You know that browser I gave you a link on...No, not Mozilla. Yeah, it was Firebird. No now its called Firefox. I don't know why, just use it"
Sig it.
What they need is to include a check for an existing Mozilla installation and offer to run a migration tool, with some interactivity in case some options need user-triage. This goes for thunderbird as well.
.torrent and no matter what the OK button is disabled.) that I just moved back to mozilla 1.6. What a BREEZE that was!
I had no end of trouble trying to migrate to Thunderbird and Firebird^C^C^C^Cfox, and when I did get there, the migration left so many little flaws and fuckups in the programs (like I download a
So, in summary, if they're going to replace the suite with a pair of seperate programs, they need to:
a) offer a "suite package" that includes both programs and
b) make sure that all 3 installers (which both apps need, especially on windows) include a proper migration tool. I will not leave the Moz suite until this is done.
Why can't they figure out these names are all dumb and poor for brand recognition.
Actually, I think the Mozilla project has done much better PR than most of the other large, open source projects. The project always comes across as much better organized than most of the other projects I follow. I think the name change was a smart move.
If the conventional download sites are so crushed under the load that you can't get the file at all then bittorrent makes perfect sense, even for just a small download.
If you find a working mirror, then of course just use that. I tried a mirror and it was overloaded. Then I tried bittorrent and it worked. Simple.
Homme petit d'homme petit, s'attend, n'avale
Yeah, but some Mac users generally refer to it as "Mail dot app" or "Mail-app", because it's good to have a distinction.
"Do you use Mail?" "Yeah, I get mail all the time." "No no, do you use Mail?" "Well, if I get it, then I must use it, right?" "No, I mean do you use Apple's-OS-X-Mail-Application?" "Oh! Well, yeah." -- I've had this type of conversation more than once over the years.
Sometimes I wish Apple had come up with some different name for their client -- after all, they came up with the colorful name "Safari" for their web browser...
> Wait for it...
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>Internet Navigator
Seriously, since at this point the whole naming scheme is fscked anyway, I wonder why they couldn't go back to the old netscape naming conventions:
Mozilla Navigator (browser only)
Mozilla Communicator (including Mozilla Mail, etc.)
Heck, even my family and/or co-workers would be able to know what is going on then, as this would build upon what we finally got them trained on years ago.