Fedora Core 2 test1 Released

GerritHoll writes "A test release of Fedora Core 2 is now available from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also available in the torrent. Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images and four source ISO images. This test release is specifically designed for testing the 2.6 kernel, GNOME 2.5, and KDE 3.2. Please file bugs via Bugzilla, Product Fedora Core, Version test1, Architecture i386 so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this test release on fedora-test-list."

Comments

apt-get and yum?

[anthonyclark]

So how do I add a magic line to my sources.list or yum.conf to allow me to upgrade to this 'release'? Will upgrading be as easy as apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?

Re:apt-get and yum?

[maelstrom]

I'd imagine so, considering I just upgraded to Fedora Core 1 through apt from Redhat 7.3. I was pretty impressed it didn't break anything. Rebooted into the new kernel and everything.

Would it not be

[Anonymous Coward]

more prudent if slashdot made some kind of ticker on the website of software releases?

Silly question

[baryon351]

Is there a version for PPC machines?

thanks

DAMMIT...

[JoeBaldwin]

Just after I switched to Knoppix.

And to be honest, I don't really want to switch back.

I had a load of fun and games trying to get Fedora to share my internet connection (coming in through one ethernet card) to the Windows XP computer in the other room used by my family (on the other one). Despite following a nice tutorial I found through Google, I couldn't get it to work.

Knoppix, on the other hand, stormed in and kicked the fuck out of Fedora, and with a few mouse clicks internet connection sharing was set up. A bit of wrangling with apt-get and one command in Konstruct and I had a full KDE 3.2 desktop set up and running. I'm using it now (very slick). It's the power of Debian with the simplicity of XP, and I wouldn't think twice about setting one of these up for a friend. It's just a perfect system.

Fedora seemed bent on making everything I need to do hard as hell and putting things out of the way. Most irritating was GDM, which decided that if I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Backspace I really didn't want to kill X so I could install the NVIDIA drivers, I just wanted X to restart. It shipped with a broken kudzu meaning that hardware detection didn't work properly...gah.

Just my two pence (for Brits) :)

Some misconceptions

[Rascasse]

Fedora/RH compiles their distributions so that they only use i386 instructions. However, if I'm not mistaken the binaries are optimized for i686 class CPUs. In other words, the instructions are scheduled optimally for an i686 class CPU, but they only use i386 instructions. In fact, in some performance critical components, the binaries are both scheduled for i686 and use i686 instructions. One example of such a binary is glibc.

Net install?

[Cthefuture]

Does Fedora have a net installer?

You know, I small ISO that I can bootstrap the install from. That way I only download what I need.

Maybe I'm just too used to non-Red-Hat based distros but I rather prefer net installers.

Upgrading Fedora Core 1 - Fedora Core 2

[Anonymous Coward]

Is upgrading FC1 to FC2 possible/advised?

Re:Alternatively

[Anonymous Coward]

Dude, I have this as a cron job at midnight :) Anyway, let's return to Fedora Core 2. I'll install it and see if it is as easy to maintain and upgrade as my Gentoo box. Perhaps it is.

Screw Fedora. Run Mandrake.

[waxmop]

Fedora is Red Hat minus the Red Hat corporate backing, which is really the main reason for using Red Hat. Mandrake has a better installer and urpmi has been used for years now. Mandrake is completely agnostic about which window manager you can use. The Mandrake Control Center rawks and covers 99% of the typical user's needs. And Mandrake has been down with BitTorrent since before it was cool.

Re:i386

[ctr2sprt]

I suspect the cause of your confusion is that many people insist on referring to Intel's 32-bit instruction set architecture by the name of the first processor to support it. The proper term is "IA32" (for "Intel Architecture, 32-bit").

My campaign for IA32 Awareness continues. If only I could persuade some actual developers to use the right term.

DVD wish list

[heroine]

Someday some bright Indian is going to supply DVD's of this software so we don't need to keep swapping CD's.

Restraining order on RedHat

[bloxnet]

Mark me as a troll, or flamebait, whatever....but I gotta say it at least once.

We done broke up RedHat. You burned me badly, screwed me for telling my bosses you were cool, made me feel like a tool for relying on you, and I'm sorry, but I can't let it happen again.

It's over between us. We broke up, stop driving by my house, calling, telling me your sorry and it won't happen again, or trying tell me you will have a $99 professional workstation release.

None of it's gonna work.

I found me a new woman, you might have seen her around...her name Debbie (short for Debian), and she treats me right.

(Damn I need to get out more...but seriously, I would hope many others have a similar view of RedHat, I just felt from a user perspective and on a business level RedHat kind of gave me the finger with the actions over the last few months)

Re:Restraining order on RedHat

[Anonymous Coward]

Then you take things too personally and feel that people owe you somthing they don't

I am very happy with fedora and am more happy then I was with RHL before Fedora. I get the same updates I used to get, only this time its less of a black box and more of a community thing (and though its still not perfect its getting better)
and its free.

I dont have to install software (like the new GNOME) from scratch or wait a year for them to release a new version.

The whole process is somthing that anyone can join, or see what is going on inside. If a certian package is removed, or if I want to add a package, it is much easier now.

Yes, Fedora is a distribution for the USERS of RHL, and most of the serious ones that dont think Redhat owed us anything, are actally very happy!

Re:Restraining order on RedHat

[lone_marauder]

It's nice to see you taking credit for Red Hat's success and I commend you for building my favorite distro.

If you mean me as in The Linux Community, then on all our behalf, you're welcome. In case you've forgotten, Red Hat did not write Linux.

If people like you are responsible for "getting red hat where they are" Then they wouldn't abandon you because you gave them money. But its obvious the product you pushed for at work was a free download and you didn't give red hat a f***ing thing now you are pissed they are giving you something back that has 2 months shorter release cycle. but has the added benifit of:

I gave Red Hat a couple of hundred RHN subscriptions, including all of my personal systems and the rest from among my employer and client base, all for doing what a Gentoo user does every time he installs a system (kludging packages together) and keeping an update server running.

1.) install everywhere and anywhere without problems or restrictions.

Except for the small matter of Fedora being a screaming train wreck.

2.) Have a chance to put your own packages in
3.) Decide the direction of your distro by having 1 on 50 discussions with the developers.
4.) No RHN to sign up for 'yum -y update'
5.) Set up your own local repositories.

A distro with a real package management system makes customization and maintenance a lot less of a problem.

I bought RHPW for $50 and will probably pay for updates the next 3 years ($60).

Actually, it's more like $90. After the discount. For a system whose concept Red Hat said was untenable a few weeks ago (desktop Linux). What will they say next week? Will it sound like "Guess what, you, your employer, and all your customers are fucked. Have a nice day."

The distro I spend 4 hours a day on is Fedora. Debian might be nice but I have used Red Hat for years and like it, so why switch?

Because Red Hat Linux doesn't exist anymore?

A total of 8 CDs?

[k98sven]

Ok.. can someone tell me why it's named "Core"?
To me, that seems to imply that it'd be a bare-bones system, like the kernel+GNU utilities..

This is obviously not the case.. but, seriously, why the name?

Fedora, public sentiment, and actual impression

[poopie]

I like many people here, felt that Redhat made a giant PR mistake (for the opensource commmunity which got Redhat where they are today) when it turned redhat into fedora. The perception was, "Redhat needs to make money, so we're only supporting the enterprise versions. You'll need to pay for our software. You'll need to pay for binary patches, and you'll need to pay for support. No more free lunch. See ya' later."

Okay, so... I got over that (sort of...) and tried a whole bunch of different distributions, including Fedora core 1.

What I found was that I really like the fedora model, and can see that with just a little more momentum, it could become something far better that the original free redhat releases ever were.

If you are like I was, and have sworn off redhat for hacking/non-work purposes for whatever ideological reasons, I urge you to read the unofficial Fedora FAQ and actually give it a try.

I have been quite impressed with Fedora and with yum for updates. Make sure to get a new yum.conf file from the unofficial faq site before you try to update your system -- redhat's patch sites are almost always flooded. Then try adding in some of the development channels and do "yum install $package1 $package2 $package3".Add yum to run from cron/as a daemon to update your system.

I just wish now that *someone* would release a version of fedora core that includes support for mp3 and various popular video formats so that it would make a usable desktop for most people out of the box. What's to stop someone from releasing ISOs of feature-overloaded-fedora that would include most of the stuff that the repositories are currently building to "fix" fedora?

But back on the topic -- Before you swear off Fedora, give it a try with an open mind.

Re:Fedora, public sentiment, and actual impression

[buchanmilne]

I just wish now that *someone* would release a version of fedora core that includes support for mp3 and various popular video formats so that it would make a usable desktop for most people out of the box.

Of course, if you used Mandrake, the first (and NTFS ro support - for now) wouldn't be a problem, and the 2nd could be solved by the PLF with a:

# urpmi xine-win32

(been running 'urpmi --auto-select' via cron for over 18 months, most of the time with my most-used personal box running cooker ..)

Re:Huge

[GerritHoll]

If you fetch almost everything from the internet, what's the point of downloading an iso at all? If your uplink is fast enough to do 'yum install ', I don't see why it isn't fast enough to perform 'minimal install' through FTP.

Not sure...

[justMichael]

I just finished testing Fedora Core 1, RedHat EL WS 3 and Gentoo 1.4 as I am about to build a new server and am curious where I should go now that "RedHat" is defunct for the free stuff.

My results show that there was no significant difference between the 3 of them (No, I didn't do a stage 1, I did stage 3 and even that took longer than I wanted).

The interesting thing was that RHEL WS burned through the RAM and started swapping a LOT sooner than Fedora or Gentoo, I was able to apply 4 times the load before Fedora and Gentoo started swapping.

RHEL was slightly faster 1-1.5 transactions/sec. But as we know once your web server starts using the swap you might as well pull the plug.

Dsiclaimer: I should have tested Gentoo using a Stage 1 install and I may do that before I make a final decision.

The test consisted of a production environment as I would normally use, the load was applied using siege.

And to avoid the flames, if someone has tuning ideas for either Fedora or Gentoo for a general purpose (apache/php/db) box I'll be more than happy to listen.

Does ACPI power management work?

[cheezus]

The only reason I'm running xp on this laptop is so i can put it to sleep.

Re:SDL_mixer

[Pros_n_Cons]

yes and if you had fedora you'd type:
yum -y install SDL_sound-devel Which would fetch everything for you. No time compiling either. I love seeing an offtopic post that is also wrong get modded up makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.