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Fedora Core 2 test1 Released
GerritHoll writes "A test release of Fedora Core 2 is now
available
from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also
available in the torrent.
Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images
and four source ISO images.
This test release is specifically designed for testing the 2.6 kernel,
GNOME 2.5, and KDE 3.2. Please file bugs via
Bugzilla,
Product Fedora Core, Version test1,
Architecture i386 so that they are noticed and appropriately
classified. Discuss this test release on
fedora-test-list."
I know Fedora is supposed to be bleeding edge, but isn't including GNOME 2.5 (a development version) a little, un-savery? I would imagine they'd want to wait for the first release of 2.6, and go with 2.4 till then.
/. is a bunch of nerds at a million typewriters. It's not a political conspiracy determined to undermine your beliefs.
Fedora Core has expanded in this release to four binary ISO images...
Ugh. Looks like my modem will be getting a workout again soon. Wouldn't it be easier to skimp on some of the apps, and provide separate links to them so we can reduce download times? Four ISO discs is hella big.
Mandrake 10.0 beta 2 is out also! Why no posting about that, hrmmm?
Why is Fedora/Red Hat still compiled for i386? Can there be many 386 or 486 users? I would think it better to make it for Pentium I or II to get a nice performance gain while not abandoning many users. I realize they probably do it because Linux's oldest supported Intel chip is the 386, but it seems much more practical to compile higher. This was the reason I switched to Mandrake years ago, to try a distro compiled for Pentium.
Developers: We can use your help.
Please join me:
8 6.torrent
:)
btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 350 \
--url http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/FC2-test1-binary-i3
Thank you, and goodnight!
I've been following its development by using Rawhide on my system. Yeah, call me crazy and stupid, but the reason I'm doing it is that I *MUST* use the kernel 2.6 now, since 2.4 does not support the onboard SATA controller on my VIA 8237 southbridge. (It'd be kind of a nuisance not being able to use my hard drive under Linux, you know.)
To me, the 2.6 kernel is really almost the ONLY reason to use FC2. Yeah, GNOME 2.5 might have some nice refinements over 2.4, but they're mere incremental improvements that for the most part, I don't even notice.
The 2.6 kernel also finally has ALSA support built-in, which is another good reason to go with FC2. I find it has *MUCH* better sound support as a result. (I could never get the stock OSS drivers working satisfactorily.)
Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.
...this new test release will be the bee's knees? I have to really wonder why it is that the releases for Fedora are coming out so quickly? Most of the other distros that I have been using have had a fairly regular release schedule? I have not used Fedora yet, but I feel like I am being thrown a bone, in hopes of getting the new kernel tested and patched.
If I could get a firm grip on reality, I'd choke it...
more Java software using gcj (Ant, Tomcat, Jakarta, Eclipse, but not Mozilla plugins, AWT, or Swing)
I am excited to see the growth of java on the desktop and as part of distributions. And for us J2EE guys the eclipse/tomcat/jakarta/ant integration is exciting. But why is there no focus on integration with browsers?
And yes...I have tried Mozilla's self-install and have also wanted to stab my eyes with a pencil trying to configure the plugins, which work on occasion with embedded applets.
[development]d ora/li nux/core/development
/etc/yum.conf and then yum update. That worked for me. Look for "development" instead of "rawhide" on whichever mirror you use.
name=Fedora Core $releasever - Development Tree
baseurl=http://mirror.dulug.duke.edu/pub/fe
in
As always, there's no guarantee that any of that will work with test releases, although for FC1 I went from test1,2,3, and then to final using yum and had no issues.
This is funny enough, but what's important is that it rings true. We're moving away from RedHat, too, probably for the same reasons.
Why would I want to pay for Advanced Server (or whatever they're calling it this week)? Well, if I was running a complex app like Oracle or something, sure; it makes sense to get a highly stable, supported OS that's recommended by the app vendor.
But why would I want it for a DNS server, a webserver, an SMTP server, etc.? Other distributions (ahem, Debian, ahem, cough cough) are at least as stable, much more modular, and don't cost a cent because they're community-maintained.
"Core" my ass.
I, for one, welcome our new Antichrist overlord.
how aboutr the show-stopper bugs from core 1 that hose most compaq laptops?
ATI mobility has goofy graphics on the installer that redhat9 doesnt have and no other distro has a problem with so it's a bug in fedora's installer.
the requirement to constantly tap the caps lock ket on many compaq laptops so you have keyboard and mouse for the installer also is not apparent in any other distro (except redhat9) or the problem that the installer just fails if you dont issue the allowcddma command on startup for most laptops in general...
fedora's installer is a gigantic mess and has forced many LUG's to put it in a not-reccomended list for newbies or even mid-level linux users.
these problems alone made corperate here issue a statement that fedora is not allowed due to instability (they ignore my comment that if fedora isn't allowed then why do we allow XP?)
my questions and bugzilla reports go unanswered and I had 3 laptops set aside for testing/ bug working for figureing it out and solving the problem... but no answers except for the " try the kludge/hacks we posted or buy different hardware" type of response...
I dont want it to be a kludge, I want to help get these problems with fedora fixed.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I am so sick of these Trollish "Dear Red Hat" letters that get modded up. Red Hat owes you NOTHING. The whole sense of entitlement among users that Red Hat HAS to provide a Free distro that's updated for years for Free is bullshit.
Red Hat still does make a quality Free distro that's updated for Free, its called Fedora. Don't like the fact that its only supported for like 9-12 months which is shorter than it used to be? Too freaking bad.
Enjoy your Debian but realize is no magic bullet either. Unless you hop on stable the day it comes out you face the same problem of having to upgrade you whole OS in a short timeframe. If you installed Woody today your going to be dropped or "burned" as you put it because the next Stable will be out soon and then the clock ticks till Woody isn't supported anymore.
Get over you angst against Red Hat. Want a good Free as in beer and Free as in GPl distro from Red Hat? Use Fedora. Want something else? Pay for it or build it yourself.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
So, let me get this right... you were running some production systems on a consumer OS that you thought you could get away with paying $50 support for (when the vendor clearly said that you should move to their enterprise product for such support) and... when they said "look, this is really unsupported, 'cause that $50 barely pays for the coffee around here" you get upset? Red Hat provides amazingly good support for Fedora: paid developers; release engineers; security updates; download servers; etc. The only thing they don't provide is a guarantee of support.
I laugh when I hear people talking about switching to Debian. It's not like they provide better support than RHEL. Red Hat provided an excellent upgrade path from Red Hat Linux 1 all the way to the most recent releases of RHEL WS, AS, etc.
Where was the problem? If it was too much money, fine, you can't afford it, I understand. But, don't blame Red Hat for that. We all knew a long time ago that supporting hundreds of diverse projects loosely gathered together into an OS distribution was a mountain of work. No one is shocked here.
If anything, RH took the best road. They provide the business suit set with something they can pay for and they provide a high-quality free version that the community gets input on! I use Fedora every day, and it's a great system. The apt integration is perfect, the compatibility with Red Hat Linux is seemless and the software selection is unrivaled (though it tends to be slightly more conservative than Debian unstable and slightly less so than Debian stable (which always lags unstable by a year or more).
If you mean me as in The Linux Community, then on all our behalf, you're welcome. In case you've forgotten, Red Hat did not write Linux.
I'm aware Red Hat didn't write linux, but even you have to admit they blaze a few trails and lead in my areas. If you don't admit it that's fine too I will not list them.
I gave Red Hat a couple of hundred RHN subscriptions, including all of my personal systems and the rest from among my employer and client base, all for doing what a Gentoo user does every time he installs a system (kludging packages together) and keeping an update server running.
And you can not afford $10 extra per-box this year? RHPW is still $60 per year for updates and only $10 more for the box.
Except for the small matter of Fedora being a screaming train wreck.
Could you explain please? Personally I can see a few things that sucked, A few bugs, etc. The way I see fedora is the first release was kinda slammed together quickly "here it is!" but it really wasn't ready IMO. Documentation, Guidelines, Repositories. Nobody was ready for it so some snags ensued. And FC2 is going to have 2.6 kernel, apt-get and SElinux so I expect more snags here, But FC3? FC4? the biggest things we are likely to see is KDE/GNOME like things. Once the kernel and the Fedora project itself have Ironed out thier flaws I expect Fedora to be an excellent distro for a long time.
A distro with a real package management system makes customization and maintenance a lot less of a problem.
apt-get isn't a good package management system? Debian users would disagree. Take away apt from dpkg and what do you have? the same problem RPM does without yum, or apt-get. This is the part where I wonder if you've even tried Fedora.
Actually, it's more like $90. After the discount. For a system whose concept Red Hat said was untenable a few weeks ago (desktop Linux). What will they say next week? Will it sound like "Guess what, you, your employer, and all your customers are fucked. Have a nice day."
Nah more like $49.94
They said the "desktop was unatainable" wow I never got that memo, do you have a link? It looks like they're hiring desktop people to me http://www.redhat.com/about/careers/boston/
On the Desktop thing, if you honestly think our mothers, and local hardware store owners are just fine on KDE you're flat wrong, the Desktop is great for us, or secretarys people with some technical abilitys. But for your average gamer and solitare player? c'mon man..
-- "of course thats just my opinion, I could be wrong." --Dennis Miller