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Shuttle XPC Linux Network Appliance

NoPants writes "Another big name looks like it's going to shack up with Linux. Shuttle, the maker of those small little cube looking PCs, is adopting Mandrake Linux with their newest network appliance XPCs. You can check out a review of the machine at Sudhian."

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  1. not news by Gherald · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shuttle has bundled Mandrake with it's barebones and motherboards for a long time now.

  2. The installation review is really impressive by plover · · Score: 5, Informative
    Skip the review of the Shuttle appliance for now. The reviewer perfomed a click-by-click installation review of both Mandrake 9.2 and Windows XP on the machine.

    Bottom line: Mandrake was easier and faster to install than XP. It had just as many pretty pictures, and it required less knowledge on the part of the user regarding networking, hardware, etc. It took 40 minutes instead of 50, and required only one reboot as opposed to the nine+ required to install XP. And when it was done, the reviewer had far more applications ready to run installed on the machine.

    His conclusion was that Linux is indeed ready for the desktop.

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    1. Re:The installation review is really impressive by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Informative

      It doesn't. He must have done it as root.

      It's actually supermount that provides the names for the drives. To rename them, you just rename /mnt/cdrom to /mnt/cdrw (or whatever) directory available and edit /etc/fstab to reflect the change.

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  3. Asus DigiMatrix by 3Suns · · Score: 4, Informative

    On a somewhat related note, there's a recent article on anandtech about the Asus DigiMatrix, a barebone computer aimed at people building a home-theater PC. that's one sexy box, with a volume knob and case buttons and an LCD, video capture card, radio tuner, tv tuner, gigabit ethernet, wireless ethernet, DVD/CD-RW, embedded audio-player OS, 7-in-1 card reader...

    I'm seriously considering getting one of these and making a linux media station / fileserver. Obviously Asus supports only Win2k and WinXP, but it seems like a fun challenge getting all those cutting-edge hardware components to run in linux. Most of them, even the ethernet controller, are so new they aren't directly supported in the kernel yet. And getting all the various Linux media applications to start up and obey the case buttons automatically based on what is inserted sounds like a software project in itself.

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    1. Re:Asus DigiMatrix by ERJ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, I was looking at this too as a mythtv frontend to a mythtv server. Anyway, in my exploration I found this site:

      Linus on ASUS DigiMatrix

  4. Re:from the little-black-noisy dept... by adpowers · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree. I made one of these little machines for someone yesterday. It only has two fans in the system, a power supply fan and a CPU/system fan. Plus, the system fan is a 'smart' fan, so it scales its speed based on the temperature of the CPU. It is loud when you first turn it on, but as soon as it detects that the CPU is a safe temperature, it backs off. I couldn't hear it at all over my normal computer. Even with my normal computer off, it is still very quiet. Unless you are running Prime95 or gaming or something, it should stay fairly quiet.

    I was really impressed with the little XPC machine. My mom thought it was cute machine and I was like, "This is what I have wanted to make for you!"

    adpowers

  5. Mirror! by FiberOpPraise · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the site is dying at 10 posts already:

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  6. Network Appliance. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting topic, Shuttle XPC Linux Network Appliance.

    A PC+Linux isn't a network appliance, its still a PC. A true network appliance, is a raid array with an ethernet adapter, its a piece of hardware performing a function.

    Before you say, well yes the computer can do it also.. You have install and set it up. Appliances in general are stupid things that are cheap and easy to replace, you just plug in and turn on. PC's are not appliances.

    Little pet peeve, but really if you don't care for HD's and the whole 1000k vs 1024K, this is along those lines. Use the correct terms you hackers.

  7. Re:from the little-black-noisy dept... by konfoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only problem is that it *doesnt* stay quiet. I have one of these on top of my TV. The fan on the CPU is a POS, and the two little fans are the same brand. After about 3-4 weeks of being on continuously they are all whining at 100 decibels. I've pulled the plug on the two case fans, but the CPU fan continues to whine and rattle. Cheap-ass POS.

  8. Re:from the little-black-noisy dept... by lantius · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've built a few of these as well. My mother loves the one I got her for Christmas, even though it took her a while to understand that it was the whole computer and not just an external cd-burner, which is what she had asked for. =) Even better yet, on the noise fron though Shuttle has finally released a new version, the Shuttle Zen, which features an external laptop-style power brick adapter. Hence, only one fan total and it has even less equipment inside to cool. Very smart! This is of course old news to folks who prefer the Mini-ITX formfactor (or the absolutely tiny Nano-ITX or other such shrinkages), where external power and no CPU fan leads to truly silent computing.

  9. Re:Good article... by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 5, Informative

    My thinking is just the opposite. I've experienced installs of XP (during a short lived dual boot experiment) and Linux on my PC. I have plenty of potentially problem causing hardware, like my Hauppage 401 capture card and Mad Dog 52x CD burner. SuSe, the only distro I've installed since acquiring the afformentioned hardware, had both of them working after the install. It even threw in KWinTV for TV viewing, and K3B for burning. With XP, I had to use the install CDs that came with those products. That added about 1/2 an hour onto my install time, factoring in reboots. My long winded point is that Linux seems to have already surpassed Windows in terms of auto-configuration for hardware. This is especially helpful during a frustring OS install.

    Another good thing about Linux, it was able to make use of my fancy new NVidia 5900 as soon as I put it in. A quick configuration dialogue (two or three clicks, no settings had to be changed) and I was done with it. With Windows, I was forced to run in a very low resolution while tracking down the NVidia drivers for it. Again, Linux makes using new hardware easier and faster.

    One more story, I bought a USB keyboard to replace a broken, old, PS2 one. Linux autoconfigured it, and I was done with it as quickly as I was with the video card. In Windows, I could not type a password to log on, because it did not recognize the USB keyboard. I had to borrow a working PS2 one from a friend so I could log on, and then plug in the USB KB. I then had to use the character map utility for a bit as I installed the new KB. It took me an extra two days to get a KB working under Windows!

  10. Re:Network Appliance? by Mad_Rain · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the article:

    "Unless you're a close follower of Shuttle press releases, you may wonder what defines a Network Appliance XPC - and indeed the definition does seem somewhat fuzzy. The common feature tends to be the inclusion of one or more "server" features - such as Gigabit LAN, or dual PCI, or dual LAN or RAID support. The current range of Network Appliance XPCs includes the SB52G2 (featuring the Intel 845GV chipset, Gigabit LAN and two PCI slots), the SB62G2 (featuring the Intel 865G chipset, SATA RAID, dual LAN adapters and the subject of today's review) and the SB75G2 (featuring the Intel 875P chipset, SATA RAID and a single Gigabit LAN adapter)."

    My best guess is that it has some hardware abilities more in-line with a server than a standard desktop.

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  11. Shuttles rock! by BookRead · · Score: 3, Informative
    The form factor is outstanding. Inside is a little snug and they aren't all that expandable but they make great workstations and small servers and they aren't space or energy hogs. I bought one because it was relatively cheap and customizable and love it for its quality. They are really well engineered. Nothing in excess about them but plenty of capacity.

    Now shipping with Linux (and it installs easier than XP)! Holy cow! How did the future sneak up on us like that?

  12. Re:Shuttle is a spammer by Cryogenes · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have bought two shuttles and I have exchanged emails with their technical support. And, yes, I do live in Germany.

    I have never received an unsolicited mail from them.

  13. Re:Bring on the heatpipes! by justMichael · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, here are your heat pipes.

    And if you want really quiet try one of these

  14. Re:Who cares about installation simplicity... by anagama · · Score: 4, Informative

    • How about cutting a CD - most burners ship with some sort of burning software for Windows (e.g. Nero 5). Under Linux say hello to 'mkisofs', 'cdrecord' and another HOWTO. If you want to burn an audio CD of MP3's, you're in a world of pain.
    Well, you haven't used K3b. I've used Nero before - truth is, K3b is easier. Literally a drag-drop-click-burn operation. For atypical data burns (or music), this is a great program.

    At the same time, I made a script to do my backups, mkisofs and cdrecord based. Being able to use the command line for these tasks is sometimes more convenient, at least for the repetitive ones. I just click the icon that runs my backup script, and I'm done, thanks to that ugly CLI.

    Pretty has its place. Function has its place. Linux gives you both.

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