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Open Source Spreads Beyond Software

B'Trey writes "Britain's Prospect Magazine is running an article entitled 'The Microsoft Killers.' The article covers the success of Open Source software in particular but also looks at how the methods and practices of Open Source are moving outside the software environment."

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  1. will this work... by freerecords · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ..I think the idea is extremely novel! however, i don't think it will work simply because of the measurability of "good things". ie. in software we can always pick, and recommend, Mozilla over IE., not only cos it is open source, but because it is better security wise. however how do you tell someone that "OpenCoke" is better than Coca-cola, can this be done? if it tasted as good and didn't rot your teeth i guess so.. heh, but i dont think prices can be cut - and freeness is one of the big drawing factors to OS/GPL products... what do you think?
    by the way, i'm allergic to flames!
    Tim

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    tim
    1. Re:will this work... by tuba_dude · · Score: 5, Funny

      OpenReligion...Nah, doesn't sound right. OpenOsiris? BSDBuddah? GNU/Jesus? This could go somewhere...

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      "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
  2. Microsoft Killers : Premature? by Puchku · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A little premature for such a title maybe. F/OSS needs to concentrate on the details.. God is in the details, and this is where MIcrosoft excels. Sure, they have their shortcoming, but they Human Interface designs are uniform at least..

    1. Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature? by Puchku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If people could put up with the crappiness of DOS and Win 3.x (the infancy of MS operating systems), why is Linux being bashed constantly during its infancy for stuff MS got away with? Because Liux is being continuosly compared to Windows.. When DOS and 3.1 were around, there was nothing to compare them to. People did not have any expectations, so whatever Microsoft did was sen as a giant leap forward Linux has to catch up to Microsoft becuase that is what people expect from their computers. Once that is done, it can go past. But you have to have the little stuff working first....

    2. Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature? by MooKore+2004 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Most Modern Linux distros put an Icon on the desktop when you attach a camera to do it. Sure in the old days it had to be mounted, but its all automatic.

      Try The latest version of Mandrake, SuSE or FEdora if you dont believe me! The ONLY people who say linux is hard to use these days are Debian users stuck with their 2.2 kernel and 2.2 KDE desktop because its "stable". Moderators, please stop handing out mod points to FUD.

    3. Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yup, Mac's were great, but beacuse they were in locked down proprietary mode, while IBM PC's were being assmbled by eveyone and his dog, they got left wayy behind...

      And yet curiously it does not work the same way with software. Now, it is Windows that is locked down in proprietary mode, with expensive and draconian licenses. Linux distros can be assembled by everyone and his dog, but yet, it is still a mostly a niche OS on the desktop.

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      "Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds
    4. Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature? by qoquaq · · Score: 5, Interesting
      It's your customer which defines the OS experience. If your customer is a new computer user ... the software should be intelligent enough to configure itself.

      If your user is an engineer ... mounting devices as drives is something the customer may know how to do so your software must be intelligent enough to do that well.

      Apple ... fault them if you must but ... they have such great attention to the user experience. Hide the bits in an abstraction known as Macintosh, their customer does not want to see drivers and mount points. This is their starting point, that is their customer. How can we delight the user with the Macintosh expeirence, not the low level details of the O1 scheduler. I don't mean to start a Mac/Linux/Windows holy war but I do need an example here .

      With Linux that starting point and customer are different. Most of the distributions which are ready for the desktop have a customer in mind who is using Windows 2000 at work or Windows ME at home. This is the user experience which they start with. I think some people here agree that is starting off a bit handicapped.

      The Mac customer does not even want to know what a driver is or does.

      The point I'm bearly making here is its about the customer ... and what experience you want for that customer. Will Linux overtake the desktop? ... Sure if the desktop really begins to abstract the fact you are running Linux and does a better job of creating the a great customer experience for more customers than everyone else.

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      "They say travel broadens the mind, so I went over the falls in a barrel." -Thomas Dolby

  3. It's not surprising really. by ahfoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The GPL is based on using copyright as a shield against those who would use copyright as a weapon. The underlying situation is one that is often reflected in the physical world and often noted in literature: the knife cuts both ways.
    The Creative Commons licenses could eventually have an even greater impact on the world than the GPL although the latter's impacts have only begun to be felt.

  4. Software patents movement by Elektroschock · · Score: 5, Informative

    A Good example is the movement against EU software patents. A similar style is used as in huge open source development projects. Different sites such as FFII.org, the AEL Wiki, Vrijschrift, Eurolinux Petition are used. There are many core activists that contribute to email communication on different lists, monitor the net, take part in events, speakers for events and many supportes 8around 50 000 registered of FFII or 300 000 Eurolinux signatures). Registered supporters can be contacted in cases of urgent action. There is no strict organisation structure, contributions count and create a personal karma. Participants in the debate act as individuals, not as objects of an organisational ideology. If you don't like something, contribute. If you are not pleased with the organisation or action of FFII join another group in the debate and contribute in a different style.

    Participants were able to convince the EU parliament by massive protests. FFII and the other groups of the network created a kind of watchgroup for IP policy issues. They were able to put light in dark backyard where patent attorneys and servants of the DoJ decide what may be beneficial for the information society.

    I think in europe we were able to show: "Hacking politics works."

  5. Sic ! by foobsr · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of the best technology magazines on the web, Slashdot, has only a few members of staff who post short articles and allow readers to comment and elaborate: most of the site content comes from readers.

    Sic ! Now I think I wonder what those magazines of lesser quality are alike.

    CC.

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    TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
  6. OpenCola Recipe by FJCsar · · Score: 5, Informative

    [From Google's cached page]

    Introduction:
    Contained hereunder is a HOW-TO for brewing up kitchen-sink OpenCola. Amazingly enough, every soft-drink vendor we spoke to acted like the preparation of cola was some kind of deep, dark trade-seekrut(TM). With much reverse-engineering and creative shopping, the research kitchens at OpenCola have coopered together the following makefile for brewing up The Black Waters of Corporate Imperialism(TM) in the privacy of your own home.

    The basis for the whole thing is the 7X, Top-Seekrut(TM) formula. Our sources tell us that 7X is the internal Coca-Cola codename for their syrup. You'll note that the 7X formula contains eight ingredients: still more evidence of the deviousness of the Soda Gnomes.

    As it turns out, mixing up a batch of cola's pretty easy. Finding the ingredients is damned hard. Most of this file is about finding and handling ingredients so as to produce a tasty bevvy without blowing up your kitchen, melting your flesh off your bones, or poisoning yourself. As with all undertakings of great moment, read and understand the instructions before attempting to commit cola on your own. Pay special attention to the "Warnings" section.

    This recipe is licensed under the GNU General Public license. It is "Open Source" Cola, or, if you prefer, "Free" Cola. That means you're free to use this recipe to make your own cola, or to make derivative colas. If you distribute derivative colas, you're expected to send email to the recipe's author, Amanda Foubister (amanda@opencola.com) with your updates. In the future, we expect to have a CVS server up to handle additions, bug-reports, etc.

    The Formula
    7X (Top SeekrutTM) flavoring formula:
    3.50 ml orange oil
    1.00 ml lemon oil
    1.00 ml nutmeg oil
    1.25 ml cassia oil
    0.25 ml coriander oil
    0.25 ml neroli oil
    2.75 ml lime oil
    0.25 ml lavender oil
    10.0 g gum arabic
    3.00 ml water

    OpenCola syrup:
    2.00 tsp. 7X formula
    3.50 tsp. 75% phosphoric acid or citric acid
    2.28 l water
    2.36 kg plain granulated white table sugar
    0.50 tsp. caffeine (optional)
    30.0 ml caramel color

    Preparation
    7X Flavoring:
    Mix oils together in a cup. Add gum arabic, mix with a spoon. Add water and mix well. I used my trusty Braun mixer for this step, mixing for 4-5 minutes. You can also transfer to a blender for this step. Can be kept in a sealed glass jar in the fridge or at room temperature.

    Please note that this mixture will separate. The Gum Arabic is essential to this part of the recipe, as you are mixing oil and water.

    Syrup:
    In a one gallon container (I used the Rubbermaid Servin' Saver Dry Food Keeper, 1.3 US Gal/4.92 l), take 5 mls of the 7X formula, add the 75% phosphoric or citric acid. Add the water, then the sugar. While mixing, add the caffeine, if desired. Make sure the caffeine is completely dissolved. Then add the caramel color. Mix thoroughly.

    Cola:
    To finish drink, take one part syrup and add 5 parts carbonated water.

    Scavenging and Handling Ingredients
    7X flavor:
    Measurement: I used a dropper purchased at a Shoppers Drug Mart (normally used to measure infant portions of medicine, I believe).

    Oils: Oils can cause skin irritation. Wear latex food-prep or surgical gloves. If oils come in contact with skin, wash with soap and water.

    I purchased all oils from health food stores and the herbalist store, Thuna's (see notes on gum arabic).

    Everything could have come from the herbalist's. Try for 100 percent pure, undiluted oils. I used oils from the following companies:

    CK Solutions, Ft. Wayne, IN 46825
    Aura Cacia Oils, Weaverville, CA 96093
    Aromaforce Essential Oils
    Frontier Natural Flavors, www.frontiercoop.com
    Karooch, Peterborough, ONT K9J 7Y8
    When I purchased the oils, I specifically asked whether they were food grade or not.

  7. Oracle by rdean400 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Oracle's dominance in databases is coming under attack from MySQL..."

    Please. Oracle's supposed dominance in databases is under far more threat from Microsoft and IBM than it is from MySQL **at this point in time.** IBM earns more database revenue than Oracle, so it's not even fair to say that Oracle dominates.

  8. Excellence takes time.... by LibrePensador · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As you recognized towards the end of your post, the small details are being addressed at many levels. Stay tuned for a Linux distribution near you.

    In fact, your specific example has been dealt with by Mandrake and Suse for the past 2/3 years. Where have you been?

    And how do they do it? Better than Windows, most times.

    No driver CD necessary. If it's supported, plug in the camera and it shows up on your desktop. Click on it and get your pictures. Now that was easy, wasn't it.

    I am not impervious to criticism and there are tons of things that need improvement, but they are coming. Anyone who has used Linux for the past five years cannot be blind to the huge improvements in ease-of-use and consistency that have been made.

    Finally, the community aspect of Linux is not to be dismissed. When I set somebody up with Linux, I make sure that his/her every whim is satisfied so that the experience is more positive than it was with their prior OS.

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    Pragmatism as an ideology is not particularly pragmatic in the long term. Keep it in mind when you dismiss Free Software
  9. Groklaw is a non-programming example of this by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "Open source is a philosophy for software licensing designed to encourage the improvement and use of software by anyone who wants to join in. It ensures that the source code, the underlying instructions of the software, can be examined and modified freely.

    The open source movement eschews proprietary controls and its software is usually produced not by firms, but by networks of volunteers who look after different pieces of an application."

    Groklaw is an example of this exact method, even though it is not involved in software development. It is a legal site that encourages anyone to join in, the results are not produced by law firms, but by networks of volunteers who look after different pieces of the legal brief. It started as one woman's personal blog and then took off when the FOSS community saw the usefulness of having a subject matter expert in law commenting on cases that mattered to the community. So the community joined in and now it's a distributed project on the exact model of an Open Source programming project.

    So these principles work for more than just programming. It's a useful model for any community project. The power of the community made manifest. We're stronger when we work together.