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Migrating Device Drivers to the 2.6 Kernel

An anonymous reader writes "While it's all well and good to find out how to upgrade your kernel to 2.6, as this recent /. story pointed out, developers, especially device driver developers, might be more interested in the kernel's new device driver model. Over at Linux Devices, there's a new article on Migrating device drivers to Linux kernel 2.6. The short version: That little ole Hello, World! kernel module is a heckuva lot more complicated than it used to be."

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  1. Re:uhh... by Narchie+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative

    The build process is substantially different. Actually, it's simpler, provided you have a Linux source tree handy. But you can't develop your kernel modules just anywhere anymore.

    Actually, the license macro isn't even necessary, 2.6 is just bitchier about kernel taints.

  2. Linux Device Drivers by rjoseph · · Score: 5, Informative

    Supposedly the third edition of Linux Device Drivers will be released soon, and will be geared towards 2.6 development (obviously). Anyone who's ever wanted/needed to do linux module programming should definitely take a look at this book, it's basically *the* reference.

    1. Re:Linux Device Drivers by wdebruij · · Score: 5, Informative

      I couldn't agree more. A month ago I started serious kernel programming and my code wouldn't have been what it is if I hadn't found out about the free, online version of the second edition.

      Some other useful sites :
      the Linux kernel API reference

      Linux cross reference, especially the `identifier search'.

      the driver porting series over at LWN.net (which Rufus211 alreay pointed out).

      the module init tools FAQ

      this document, aptly titled `the linux kernel'

      apart from these there are many more interesting links, but mostly those have to do with specialty domains, such as networking or memory management. I pasted my bookmarks.html to my personal website.

      And lastly, if you want to do cross-version /dev (mknod and devfs), mmap, module or networking development, please take a look at our project's cvs server through our website (webcvs) at ffpf.sourceforge.net. The directory ffpf/srv/v1.1/generic contains some files I created that work on both 2.4.24 and 2.6.1 and which I'll test on a 2.3.99 system shortly.

  3. LWN by SecMF · · Score: 5, Informative

    LWN has some documentation on this for some time now: http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/

  4. a lot more complicated ? by pytheron · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article linked:-
    ...the most significant change to working with device drivers for the 2.6 Linux kernel are the changes in the build process described in the next section


    The only difference in the skeleton modules described in the article is a MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); and a "return 0;".


    Breathtakingly difficult ! In fact, the only 'hard' part seems to be changing how (if at all) your module interacts with other kernel components ! If you wrote a module that utilises these aspects of the kernel, moving to a new API would not be that difficult.

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  5. LWN has far more depth by Rufus211 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a 30 article series over at LWN about porting drivers to 2.5/6 with both overview articles (like this hello world one) and specifics (like how the block layer changed).

  6. Re:3rd party modules: kernel tainted by glitch! · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "tainted" message just means that the module does not claim to be GPL. As a practical matter, you can just ignore the "tainted" message. If you are concerned about whether modules are GPL or not, then you may find the message useful.

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  7. Re:Linux 2.6... by The+One+KEA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, but it's not gonna happen. Linus has repeatedly stated that he will never modify the internal APIs of the kernel to make the maintainership of binary-only modules easier for hardware manufacturers. While this attitude may seem unfair and self-serving, it makes sense, and is not likely to change.

    Right now 3D graphics drivers for ATi and NVIDIA cards are the only sticking point in hardware support IMO. Just about every other major component has Linux support, if you do careful research before buying.

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  8. Re:This may be impolitic, but... by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ummm WTF are you talking about? The Win32s are FILLED with functions that only work on a specific platforms or are buggy on ceartin platforms making them unreliable. Its only plain vanilla applications that work on any platform -- and you'll find alot of code in there that says if(WINDOWS_VERSION == 98) {} elif (WINDOWS_VERSION == 2000) -- thats not really cross platform compatibility.

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  9. Re:This may be impolitic, but... by The+One+KEA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, but what you envision is never going to pass. Linus has repeatedly stated that he will not permit the modification of the Linux kernel source in order to cater to the maintainers of binary-only modules. If they refuse to *PL their code, then they must shoulder the burden of maintainership until such time that they do decide to *PL it.

    It would be nice if the code allowed this, but since it doesn't, all we can do is carefully research the support and drivers that do exist and are available for the latest and greatest hardware, before we buy them.

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  10. Re:Help! 2.6.2 is huge by The+One+KEA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Start with the CONFIG_EMBEDDED option - it allows you to excise a significant amnount of stuff from the kernel image that would otherwise remain unused. If you want more savings, there is a tinykernel tree somewhere that has patches which allows you to remove even more stuff. IIRC the kernels built from this tree can comfortably run with as little as 4MB of RAM.

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  11. Re:Upgrade now? by Kourino · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're having problems with input devices, search the LKML archives for Vojtech Pavlik's 2.6 input FAQ (he's the maintainer of the kernel's input system). You can find a list of searchable archives at the LKML home/FAQ page.

    Err, I'm feeling generous, here: 2.6 input drivers FAQ ^_^;

    You may be confusing the "USB event subsystem" (of which I'm really not sure you're talking about) with the generic input system.

  12. LWN also has an excellent series on driver porting by theonlyholle · · Score: 5, Informative

    Linux Weekly News also has a great series on driver porting at http://lwn.net/Articles/driver-porting/. It's in the subscription-free area, so go there and have a look at it.

  13. Re:Why the license macro? by Second_Derivative · · Score: 5, Informative

    Common situation before 2.4:

    1) User loads proprietary module
    2) Kernel goes unstable and crashes like hell
    3) User responsibly decides to post OOPS and bug report to LKML
    4) Kernel devs groan for the 1000th time and explain that they can't test a problem with an opaque driver

    The problem is that a black box piece of code is 'tainting' the kernel. If something goes wrong with that code, you're SOL because you can't look inside the black box. Module licensing forces a closed driver to identify itself as such, and then notes that the kernel is tainted in the OOPS, so if you submit an oops like that then the kernel devs will (quite rightly) say "Don't expect us to fix a problem with a proprietary driver, bug the guy who wrote it".

    It's mostly a bug tracking thing for the kernel developers in other words, it doesn't really change how the kernel behaves or what you are or aren't allowed to do with it.

  14. Re:Why the license macro? by pe1rxq · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some kernel developers (me included) don't like the idea of making functions in the kernel available for use by closed source drivers. This way the module loader prevents certain modules from using certain functions.
    But the most important is bug reports. If you load a non open module your kernel gets 'tainted' and this is reported in oopses. If you then send this oops to one of the kernel maintainers they can just ignore you. Since you have a piece of unknown code in use in your system they can't do anything usefull anyway.

    Jeroen

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  15. Re:I've always wondered.... by roboros · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem is not the language but the interface to the kernel. The C language, which a lot of drivers are written in, is very portable but you still cannot easily take a driver from Windows XP and port it to Linux, because the driver has to provide and call different functions in Windows vs Linux. What would be required is a standardized API for device drivers but that is (IMHO) not likely to happen soon. There are some however some interesting wrappers for using Windows WLAN drivers under Linux, maybe it would be possible to extend that to other kinds of drivers.

  16. Re:uhh... by megabeck42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I gotta just reinforce the fact that the new kbuild system makes compiling kernels outside of the build tree much easier.

    First of all, there's now a symbolic link from /lib/modules/.../build to the kernel source, further with kbuild, it handles all the dependencies and symbols, etc.

    Basically, compiling a module outside of the tree in the old 2.4.x was difficult and if you were using modversions, almost impossible - you need to have the kernel source and kernel configuration - its necessary anyways. Now, all I need to do is

    make -C /usr/src/linux-2.6.2 SUBDIRS=$PWD modules

    and voila, kbuild handles everything for me.

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  17. Re:whats the benefit? by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Informative
    the article is just a bit too techie for me.. so whats [sic] the catch with this new stuff?
    will it help some more device manufacturers make "drivers" for linux?


    New device driver format. Is it good or is it whack?

    Basically, the article is explaining that by following certain conventions in the driver code, you allow the kernel a standardized way to load and use the driver.

    In other words, if you're going to make third-party Legos, make sure the nubbins on the blocks are the same size and wit the same spacing as the nubbins on Legos, if you want everything to fit together.

    The author of the article then inserts a plug for his company's software:
    If you are not using an integrated development environment such as TimeSys' TimeStorm that is capable of detecting kernel versions and automatically creating Makefiles that "do the right thing" for the 2.6 kernel, you will need to manually create Makefiles for your device drivers that are integrated into the kernel build process.


    He also explains that in cleaning up driver building for 2.6, somebody forgot that not everybody has write access to a copy of the kernel source, which 2.6 driver building -- whoops -- requires. This is simpler to get around, so long as you've got room for your own writable copy of the kernel source. This will prove annoying for people who build drivers by compiling them on certain *cough* Zaurus *cough* embedded devices (rather than cross-compiling) and who use something like cramfs.

    The article then spends a few paragraphs on where the real compatibility problems will be: 2.6 is lot different than 2.4 in a lot of internal processes, so if your driver made assumptions about any of that -- instead of being itself written in a layered way -- you're going to be making a lot of changes.

    (Ideally, you should write the driver so that one layer handles communication with linux, one layer handles communication with hardware, and one layer sits between the other two to "translate" and maintain state; this also makes porting the driver -- whether to 2.6 or another operating system altogether, -- far cheaper and easier. Programmer laziness, management short-sightness, or pre-mature optimization may however have driven you to write a monolithic driver.)

    Will this help more manufacturers make drivers for linux? Not really. If manufacturers cared about making linux drivers, they'd have already done it for 2.4. If they didn't care to do it for 2.4, they won't care to do it for 2.6.

    If you really want more manufacturers to make drivers, you have to do the following: get the phone number for investor relations at the company. Call up and ask them how much market share they've lost by not offering linux drivers, and explain that you're worried about the company's long-term prospects if it continues to ignore this growing market. explain that as a result you're going to be reducing you exposure in the company's stock in favor of their competitors who do offer linux drivers.

    (Since most companies are now run by managers whose compensation is based on short-term stock movement, and not long tern company growth, the companies hare increasingly deaf to the needs of customers, but alert to stock speculators and their stock price. Therefore I now recommend calling Investor Relations rather than Customer Relations if you wish to change a company's policies.)
  18. For an up-to-date kernel book... by salimma · · Score: 4, Informative

    you can read Robert M. Love's Linux Kernel Development , authored by the person who brought us kernel pre-emption, and is now working at Ximian/SuSE on kernel-desktop integration. Can you say Utopia ?

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  19. Will 2.6.x improve life for driver devs? by soldack · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would love see linux really catch up to Windows here. Having worked on Windows and Linux drivers I can honestly say that for me, Windows device driver development is much easier. I am comparing writing Windows 2000/XP device drivers with Linux 2.4.x device drivers. Most that I have worked on are networking, storage, or low level bus drivers.

    The driver APIs in windows appear to be more stable and documented better. The backwords compatiblity that MS allows in their driver model is great. For example, each time a new feature was added, it was always possible to use the old style for a few revisions. For example, when power managment and plug and play were added in Win2k, MS made sure you could still make a driver without the new calls and things would work. Even their wrapper models for networking (NDIS miniport) and storage (SCSI miniport) easily allow backworks compatibility. NDIS is nicely designed with versioning in the structures so that NDIS can know what version of the API the driver supports and handle it correctly.

    The documentation in the DDK help is has improved greatly since the dark NT4 days. MS worked hard to audit the DDK docs and work with the developer community to improve them. These days their isn't much you will find in a header that doesn't have a nice page in the DDK help.

    At each Windows Hardware Engineering Conference and also at the new Driver Developer Conferences they go way out of their way to make life easy for driver developers. On the source front, they provide source for sample drivers of almost every kind...even for some currently shipping internals.

    The debugger is great. From a GUI or command linux, I can reload drivers over my debugger connection (serial or 1394) on a live system. I can connect to my debugger over TCP and remotely debug it. I can do almost everything I can do in a normal application debugger.

    I can get kernel dumps of various types from full memory to 64 kb minidumps. Full memory dumps allow crashes to be totally debugged...much of the guess work is removed when you can see everything that was on the system at the time of death.

    They also have great test tools built in. Between Driver Verifier and the Hardware Compatiblity Tests, a massive number of issues can be caught before the driver even gets to system testing.

    In the linux world, I have to live with weak kernel debuggers and lack of true memory dumps. In real low level driver for a DMA device, in many cases you don't get the nice happy survivable oops...you get the "I need a damn camera and small console font to capture what stack made it out" oops. Every linux 2.4 device driver book should come with a digital camera for debugging! I heard that 2.6 adds some sort of memory dump...a dump to disk would make post-mortems so much easier. Any one know more about this?

    Add to that the constant changes that instantly make documentation outdated and force driver develepers to rewrite with only the new source as their guide. The kernel rev issue is not just a GPL it and recompile...the APIs change and the meanings of status codes change, etc.
    Each kernel revision my company supports requires significant work on our end. Even if it was as simple as a recompile and test, the rate of kernels released makes it difficult for developers and system test groups to keep up. It takes a lot to test high end drivers. Weeks can go into a system test plan for a specific revision of the driver with a specific revision of the kernel only to see a newer kernel suddenly become the "new new" thing.

    On the test tools front, the world is fragmented with some companies having some certification testing but no true driver certification tests. I would love to see a 2.6 storage driver tester and a 2.6 networking driver tester. Is there anything happening on this front?

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