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Still More on the DARPA Grand Challenge
The SF Chronicle has an in-depth story on the DARPA Grand Challenge, with emphasis on the several teams from the San Francisco area. The three teams covered are using a pickup truck, a six-wheeled all-terrain vehicle, and a self-balancing motorcycle...
Which one will be least elaborite. I mean, yes you need some complexity, but the less things that can go wrong the better. I like the sound of a self balancing motorcycle myself, but I bet the simplest will have a better chance at winning.
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As little as I know about the Mars Rover, unless I mistaken, I think the guys and gals at Nasa have the final say over where the rover goes.
In this case, the teams cannot aif their creation in any way. So in Nasa's case, an engineer might say that the rover is getting to close to a rock, and the team will stear it away, whereas the people in the Darpa thing cannot do that.
Yeah, but since it doesn't have to be tested and shielded like NASA spec hardware does, a similar system based on more modern hardware could probably handle input at a faster rate.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
It's one thing when a soldier dies because his equipment fails, but I predict that when the first pedestrian gets run over by one of the "robotic" cars the company that makes them will get sued up the wazoo and rightfully taken to the cleaners. Computers should not be everywhere.
training wheels anyone?
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I wish the article said how they were making the pickup be autonomous. Are they running linux and wrote some sort of hazard avoidance program, etc?
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
Of course they know, it was on the rules of entry.
Anyway, sure accidents happen, but the sole purpose of these machines aren't to kill civilians. So you have a picture of a dismembered child, do you have any story saying "The army tested it's new X10 remote planes today by blowing the limbs off of small children"? Maybe the US army didn't even do that (well they might have, I mean it's not like it never happens) it's just some random picture with nothing describing what happened. When civilians are killed it's mainly human error, when you have a machine go into a town to find a target and destroy (and this probably won't happen for a LOOOOOOONG time) it'd be able to sort through civilians and the actual target much better than a human. These machines would be able to REDUCE the number of civilian casualties not increase.
But if you plan on winning, you probably want to make it in before the last second.
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> a few small steps away from being armed with
> rocks and sling-shots.
First time I hear a T72 being described as a rock. And yes, these did see action, in case you missed it (if with little success, except against the Bradleys).
> But 10,000 civilians died
For comparison's sake, what are the civilian death figures for other hostile takeovers of countries with a population of about 20 million (say the non-Vichy part of France in World War II)?
> millions more are going to die because of
> Depleted Uranium poisoning.
Depleted uranium is chemically about as poisonous as most other heavy metals that would be used for ordnance (the metal of choice for amunition was lead before DU came along, and we all know how safe lead is).
But nice try to stir up fears by mentioning "uranium" How about pointing to a scientific study of DU toxicity (some have been done, by opponents of DU, even, and found what I have said above) instead of pointing to propaganda?
I see a picture of a child missing a limb. Though emotionally charged, there's very little useful information.
The parent poster may be making an honest claim, and he may not. I note it was posted by an Anonymous Coward, which doesn't help. Could have been an unmanned vehicle that did it. Could have been a landmine, too. Might have been a US vehicle, might have been Chinese. Was this a grisly industrial accident? Horrifying though the thought may be--was the child armed?
Context, please? It seems to be an awfully tenuous link to autonomous vehicles...
All we have here is a picture that suggests that military conflicts are bloody, grisly, destructive things, with wretched consequences. Well, duh. We knew that.
Thought experiment: Can the use of unmanned vehicles reduce this type of civilian casualty? Expendible vehicles might be less likely to be used to shoot innocent civilians, because they're not going to be frightened, or have an itchy trigger finger. Just a thought.
One possible alternate perspective: this sort of technology will further the perspective that war is a sort of video game--one that can be entered into more readily if there are no (ahem) friendly lives at risk. Just a thought.
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So I can assume you'll be out there, in your little booties, trampling the very same flora and fauna? And while you dismantle these vehicles, how do you plan on cleaning up the fuel you'll spill while breaking fuel lines? Brake fluid?
It's called Tread Lightly. Not everyone who enjoys off-road activity trashes the environment, dude. The responsible ones travel well-known trails, and we pack out what we pack in.
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A coyote digging a couple of holes is going to probably displace more topsoil than these few vehicles.
If you *really* want to do something, go after the hordes of people driving SUVs and not carpooling. The air pollution emitted by these does a lot more damage than some faint tire tracks.
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You can't excuse yourself from killing 10,000 people by pointing to another point in history where you killed 2,000,000 people. Instead of getting away with the 10,000, you are in fact now being held responsible for both
Oh god. Not another 'nice try
Go America! Dickheads.