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Extinction Of Human Languages Affects Programming?

Tanmay Kudyadi writes "An article from NewScientist.com reports that half of all human languages will have disappeared by the end of the century, as smaller societies are assimilated into national and global cultures. This may be great news if one is looking at a common standard for communication, but it dosen't help those designing the next generation of programming languages. For example, there's an extremely strong link between Panini's Grammar and computer science (PDF link), and with every language lost, there is a possibility that we may have missed an opportunity at improving the underlying heuristics."

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  1. This ruins my day. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Well.. that dashes all hope I had for finding a papyrus re-issue of "Babylonian C for Dummies". It's been out of print for millennia.

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    1. Re:This ruins my day. by CyberSp00k · · Score: 5, Funny

      Babylonian C was a hardware language, silly. It was produced on clay tablets. No one is ever going to trust anything that matters to papyrus.

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    2. Re:This ruins my day. by jasoncart · · Score: 5, Funny

      Try archive.org or the Google cache.

    3. Re:This ruins my day. by dankney · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you checked eBay?

    4. Re:This ruins my day. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      Babylonian C was a hardware language, silly. It was produced on clay tablets

      Cuneiform is awl write!

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    5. Re:This ruins my day. by cstangle · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clay tablets, by the way, were where the difference between a hacker and a cracker first arose. A hacker was a skillful carver of tablets, whereas a cracker was only able to do damage and destroy whatever he touched. :D

  2. You're looking at it the wrong way by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Funny
    The way I see it, programming languages of the future aren't going to evolve from spoken language. Instead, the spoken languages of the future will evolve from programming languages.

    In 200 years, There'll be 637 different words for "bug" in the our universal spoken language, ESPERA~1. To express confusion, a speaker will slap his hands over his face, stand stock still, shout "BLUE!", and wait for the other person to walk away.

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    1. Re:You're looking at it the wrong way by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

      shout "BLUE!"

      I think you mean scream BLUE, as in the "Blue scream of Death".

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    2. Re:You're looking at it the wrong way by FleaPlus · · Score: 4, Funny

      The way I see it, programming languages of the future aren't going to evolve from spoken language. Instead, the spoken languages of the future will evolve from programming languages.

      Actually, a girl I occasionally swing dance with is doing a senior thesis for her English degree studying how the way people structure English language has changed since the advent of programming languages. Basically, she's looking at things like whether or not people have begun using things like conditional statements more often in English. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how much she has so far -- she tends to change the topic whenever I bring it up.

  3. Languages disappearing?? by bckrispi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm, that's doubleplus ungood...

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  4. Re:English is the world language (maybe) by Nexus+Seven · · Score: 3, Funny

    You didn't happen to be visiting England did you?

  5. Panini? by John+Girouard · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...strong link between Panini's Grammar and computer science

    I knew sandwiches were related to programming!

  6. Um shutup by tomstdenis · · Score: 5, Funny

    How exactly is C or Pascal based off a spoken language?

    while (alive)

    while (lust && !state(HUNGER)) {
    seek_women(HIGH_PRIORITY);
    if (found) {
    sex_up(BYPAIRS)
    sleep();
    } else {
    sex_up(MANUALLY);
    watch(CARTOONS);
    }
    }

    if (state(HUNGER))
    {
    seek_food();
    if (found) {
    chow_down_like_no_tommorow();
    } else {
    slaughter(NEIGHBOUR);
    chow_down_like_is_tommorow();
    }
    }

    }

    Oh I get it ....

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    1. Re:Um shutup by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Deparate for what? I do real coding as well. It is people like the famous anonymous coward that really drain the usability of slashdot down. Keep it up though. You might say something funny eventually.

      Tom

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  7. New Languages by knarfling · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the plus side, there are new languages showing up all the time. Klingon, Vulcan, Romulan, Cardassian .... Imagine the programming possibilities!!!

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    1. Re:New Languages by WinterSolstice · · Score: 3, Funny

      The true warrior does not comment his code :)

      -WS

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  8. Some how... by sofakingl · · Score: 4, Funny

    I get the feeling that Klingon will end up being better preserved than at least half the languages that could potentially disappear.

  9. I Don't Care by rixstep · · Score: 4, Funny

    As long as PASCAL, COBOL, and C++ are extinct too, I don't care.

  10. Re:Evolution by Frennzy · · Score: 3, Funny

    with a one-bit bus (our mouth) that's going to be pretty slow.

    I suppose we could add ten fingers, two eyes, and three toes to the mouth, and get a 16 bit bus, but that's going to be pretty hard to process. Not to mention it will be half duplex at best, since you'd need your eyes to see the other person communicating. Not to mention that a bit shift could very easily have you firmly planting your foot in your mouth.

    Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week.

  11. Obligatory Simpson's by Frennzy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Me extinct English? That's unpossible.

  12. One Language to rule them all... by Quixadhal · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's called Assembly. Assembly is what lowly humans use because their meat-brains can't keep track of all those 0's an 1's.

    Hey baby, wanna Kill All Humans?

  13. Re:Hard To Believe by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fer ah=1 ta 5
    ya'll gosub thingamajig(ah)
    iffen error then goto goldangit
    next ah

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  14. Re:Humbug by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Funny
    Are you kidding? Not only is there poetry about COBOL, but it's widely known that Shakespeare invented COBOL:

    "Let us ADD our INCOME to our CAPITAL, as the squirrel adds to its autumn horde. Aye, there's the SUM that makes a TOTAL WEALTH. 3000 DUCATS? Is this an EXPENDITURE I see before me? Marry 'tis best 'twere TAKEN AWAY, like as the magpie taketh away the jewel of great price. But hist! Here cometh the INTEREST, and 'tis of no mean interest, i' faith! I had lief ADD a percentage of this, than clasp my fair Rosalind's spleen."

    In all reality, as many people have pointed out, there is a large chunk of poetry written in various programming languages, and the inverse is true as well; many human languages are used in forms that are human "programs". Instead of being stored on harddrives, they are published in cookbooks and engineering texts.

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  15. D4 P41|\| !!! by nounderscores · · Score: 4, Funny
  16. Syntax error by melquiades · · Score: 3, Funny

    Every time I try to comprehend the parent post, I get:

    ungood is not an lvalue

    Some people are just so hard to understand!

  17. Re:Hard To Believe by E_elven · · Score: 4, Funny

    Except for Perl, which is cuneiform for Gibberish.

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  18. Algorithm by Poligraf · · Score: 3, Funny

    The word "algorithm" encripts the name of the first programmer - Al Gore ;-).

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