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Default AmigaOS4 Icon Set Revealed

Mike Bouma writes "A new screenshot showing OS4's default icon set by Martin 'Mason' Merz has been revealed. Also Q&A session 27 with Amiga's CTO Fleecy Moss is now available. Hyperion, Eyetech, AmigaWorld.net and many more exhibitors will attend the upcoming AmiGBG fair in Sweden." I also like the fantasy Amiga linked to from the Q&A session.

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  1. Wee! by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A new screenshot showing OS4's default icon set by Martin 'Mason' Merz has been revealed."

    A small handful of people rejoice!!

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  2. BSD IS....oh wait a minute by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...nevermind.

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  3. That's nice, but... by vga_init · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...where are the machines for me to run it on?

    I'm not making fun of anyone here, and I seriously would like to know; I've always been hearing about Amiga this and Amiga that here on Slashdot every once in a while, and doing a little sniffing around on the web there appears to be a pretty active Amiga community. Also, they're still developing the operating system, so there still must be Amigas, right? Right?

    Well, that's what I was hoping, but after doing some heavy searching on google I haven't been able to turn up a single machine. All of the suspect web sites like Amiga's corporate site and other places don't give any information other than "Contact your local Amiga dealer." Great. Where am I supposed to find one of those? After a little searching about that, nothing good really came up. Most of the sites I found either a) didn't exist anymore or b) didn't really have any Amiga stuff.

    Okay, maybe I am just looking in all of the wrong places, but if somebody could point me out to some good resources then that would be great; I always love to try different and unusual systems, and I'm really interested in this AmigaOS. I just don't have anything to run it on.

    1. Re:That's nice, but... by Tyrdium · · Score: 4, Informative

      The AmigaOne is a G3-based Amiga. It's pretty expensive, though, and I haven't heard much about it.

    2. Re:That's nice, but... by Mike+Bouma · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can find a large dealer list on AmigaWorld.net's frontpage.

  4. RE: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, those Amiga OS 4 icons just scream "Welcome to 1995."

  5. Pretty easy to find... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Checked Yahoo Shopping and found this:

    http://www.forefronttechnologiesinc.com/Products /? item=103

    $1200 for an 800mhz G4 Amiga system.

    1. Re:Pretty easy to find... by D.A.+Zollinger · · Score: 2, Funny

      It doesn't look all that different from Mac hardware. Could you run AmigaOS on Mac hardware? What seperates newer Amigas from other modern computers? Is Amiga just a name now?

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    2. Re:Pretty easy to find... by p4ul13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm not so sure about running it directly; but a quick googling came up with an emulator:
      Here

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    3. Re:Pretty easy to find... by Kyro · · Score: 3, Funny

      you mean like this bouncing ball? :P

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  6. Pretty awful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone else pointed out - how very 1990's. These icons are fine for 640x480 in 4-bit color, absolutely useless at 1600x1200 in 32-bit color.

    The problem is that the look and feel of this new Amiga desktop is still based on pixel-by-pixel hand-made artwork. At higher resolutions it leaves the images looking very busy because of the detailed work that lacks anti-aliasing - yet also very bland because of the limited use of color.

    The solution (as chosen by the designers of Windows XP, MacOS and others) - is to use vector artwork as the source. Scalable graphics formats can be rendered to images of any size. No icon should be terribly complicated - but when it's rendered to a small image, vector images gain automatic sub-pixel anti-aliasing and resizing of their smooth color gradients. Both of which are too complicated to do efficiently by hand when working pixel-by-pixel - but they make the final on-screen result look infinitely better.

    1. Re:Pretty awful. by dave_f1m · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Looks fine to me. Did you happen to notice the image *is* 1600x1200 24bit color? And that's what I looked at it on, 1600x1200 24bit color. The icons looked a little large to me, but that's the opposite of what you're claiming. Oops, you say they look busy in 32-bit color. Well, much as I might like to, I can't afford a Parhelia, and that would only get me to 30bit anyway. What video card do you have? Your "solution" doesn't solve any problem you claim it does.

    2. Re:Pretty awful. by notamac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Small correction... MacOS uses a 128x128 bitmap for icons, and XP uses an even smaller bitmap for its icons... So no vector graphics there :)

    3. Re:Pretty awful. by leerpm · · Score: 2, Informative

      He said the sources for the graphics, not the actual file used by the operating system. i.e. The graphic artists who do the icons in MacOS and XP use vector-based graphics when they are creating their icons, whereas the Amiga ones seem to have been drawn pixel-by-pixel instead.

  7. Too little too late. by Godeke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I loved my Amiga. It was capable of doing things that my PC using friends were blown away by. The custom hardware was, in its day, the most advanced on the market for the ordinary consumer.

    That day is past: looking at this desktop I see nothing that different from any other desktop. My love for the Amiga was its ability to crank tracker sound files while doing work. The ability to play games far cooler than any the PC world could generate. The ability to multitask while compiling software.

    Today, even a modest PC with XP home can do all that and more. I'm really not seeing the value that "Amiga" brings to the table. Sure, it brings back memories, but I'm more apt to fire up my emulator to revist some classics than to want a new OS that runs on... what?

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    1. Re:Too little too late. by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One could make the same point to every Mac and Linux (along with everything else) article.

      Yes, Windows can do what the Amiga did ten years ago, and more (I would hope so!) but I guess some people still prefer alternatives to Windows. There's more to a computer than custom hardware and a quick look at a static screenshot (and even if there wasn't, that wouldn't make Windows automatically better by default!)

  8. No Alpha Transparency? by fozzmeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't the amiga do alpha transparency (look along the diagonal edges of the icons)? or are these just beta icons?

  9. First you get the Icons. by SirDrinksAlot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then you get the Fonts.
    Then you get the vaporware of the year award.

  10. The Amiga underdog... by BobWeiner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...while I've never even used an Amiga before in my life, I still root for those that are hanging onto their Amigas. Not everyone needs a PC or a Mac, and I'm all for diversity in OS's. Will the Amiga ever rise again from the ashes? Not likely. But, it is fun to read about what the Amiga community is up to every now and then.

    -Bob

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  11. Pre-release (SDK CD) AmigaOS4 icons by Mike+Bouma · · Score: 3, Informative
    At AmigaWorld Mason stated:

    Thanks for all this comments - the positive and the negative ones!
    They will hopefully help to make the next release more perfect.
    Your suggestions are allways appreciated!

    This is the icon set for the pre-release CD and nothing more!

    If you have a look a the older OS 3.9 preview screenshots you will notice that the design of the icons has changed in many points - the same with OS 4.

    Just wait for the next release... ;-)

    Kind Regards,
    Martin "Mason" Merz


    The AmigaOS4 Pre-Release/SDK will be available to all AmigaOne owners and is currently undergoing final beta-testing.
  12. Amiga Features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Graphically, the icons kinda suck, but they are quite clear, a bit like KDE's, which is more than can be said for the "grayish gradient wash" approach of GNOME or the "ooh, see through" MacOSX.

    They're very 90s "newicons" amigaish, which is a look I always personally disliked, but they were undeniably friendly for beginners and people who just wanted to get stuff done and wanted recognisable icons instead of fashion statements.

    I'm more interested in the window borders - simple, clean, still distinctively amigaish.

    But what really struck me was all the stuff that I'd semi-forgotten about from the Amiga, that the amiga just plain did better than "modern" OSes. Look at the Devs window. Want to install a device driver? Put it in the Devs folder, and that's assuming you've got such crappy hardware that failed to include an amiga autoconfig rom with a built-in driver. Want to install a library? Libs folder. Want to read a new kind of multimedia data type? Get a DataType for it, put it in DataTypes folder, and even programs written before the invention of the data type have a fair chance of being able to handle it.

    I think it was the logical volumes ("assigns") that allowed the amiga to have a non-sucky system and application file/directory structure.