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Today Is SCO's Deadline To Sue Linux User

herrvinny writes "As proprietor of SCO Countdown, I just wanted to remind people that today is the deadline for SCO to sue a Linux user. As everyone should know, SCO, 3 months ago, promised to sue a Linux user within three months. Well, that day has come. Who is SCO going to sue, if it is even going to sue?"

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  1. Clarity by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's worth pointing out that today isn't SCO's deadline to sue Linux users. Today's is the deadline imposed by SCO for all Linux users to ante up the money or face possible lawsuits from SCO. All things considered, I'd love to see them try. Considering the recent news of AT&T and Novell documents, I'd love for SCO to sue me, then lose their case(s) to Novell/IBM and let me sue back for extortion, loss of income, etc.

    Hey SCO. I use Linux. I install Linux for 100's of companies a year. I failed to pay for any SCO licenses. Please sue me! My email is andrew@nccomp.com.

    "The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers

    1. Re:Clarity by civilizedINTENSITY · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well actually they did:

      SCO Targets Major Linux User
      November 18, 2003 (2:47 p.m. EST)
      By Antone Gonsalves, TechWeb News

      The SCO Group Inc. said Tuesday it would sue a major user of Linux within 90 days, as the company prepared to launch a new legal assault in its claims that the open-source operating system contains the computer maker's copyrighted code.

      The Lindon, Utah, company, which has a $3 billion lawsuit pending against IBM, told reporters and analysts in a teleconference that it would begin suing companies that use Linux, but refuse to pay licensing fees to SCO.

      "One of things that we will be looking to do is to identify a defendant that we believe will illustrate the nature of the problem," David Boies, managing partner of SCO's law firm Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, said. "I don't want to try and identify that defendant on this call, for obvious reasons . . . but you will be seeing the identification of a significant user that has not paid license fees and is in fact using proprietary and copyrighted material. I think you'll certainly be seeing that within the next 90 days."

  2. Other big news on SCO by leoxx · · Score: 5, Informative
    Groklaw just posted a text version of the SCO response to IBM's discovery request. Here's a link to the original PDF.


    This document describes SCO's case (or lack thereof) in more detail than any other piece of info so far. Lots of stuff for the Linux community to pick apart. Most especially a description of the "millions of lines of code" that they claim they own.

  3. A sign of things to come? by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 5, Informative

    Perhaps this entry is relevant? (Red Hat News - Lehman Brothers Threatened by SCO)

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  4. Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th by Yobgod+Ababua · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really? Is Google bigger than Lehman Brothers, whom SCO just recently threatened on this issue?

    http://www.lehman.com/
    http://www.groklaw.net/a rticle.php?story=200402171 13800806

    Not all 'major users of Linux' are Internet companies...

  5. AT&T Trips Up SCO by Laptop+Dancer · · Score: 5, Informative
    Computerworld has an interesting account of a recently discovered AT&T 1985 clarification of derivative works, which suggests that SCO is SOL.

    But regardless of whether SCO has already sued a user or is just running a little behind schedule, winning any Linux lawsuits may have just gotten a lot harder for SCO.

    Who said so? AT&T -- in 1985.

    Check it out for the juce..

  6. Perhaps it will be Lehman Brothers... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least that's somewhat implied in some speculation at Groklaw. According to that story, Lehman Brothers got a nasty-gram and promptly dispatched it to RedHat of servicing... RedHat attached it to some kind of motion or something (IANAL) suggesting that although SCO had promised the judged it was not threatening RedHat's business, threatening RedHat's customers was the same thing...

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  7. Re:Think if they sued AT&T by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "SCO vs. AT&T cannot continue until SCO proves its not baselessly slandering RedHat's product."

    No it wouldn't.

    "SCO vs. RedHat cannot continue until SCO shows that IBM illegally copied code."

    Yes it can. RedHat needs only prove that SCO had no proof that IBM did so. SCO has more-or-less admitted this to the court in the IBM case.

    "SCO vs. IBM cannot continue until SCO shows that that they and not Novell in fact own the code."

    Not true. SCO has not included any copyright terms. Nor is the Unix copyright been disputed in the Novell case yet.

    "SCO vs. Novell cannot continue until SCO proves that AT&T is not allowed to violate what would be their own copyright if Linux in fact does contain System V code."

    Not true. SCO vs. Novell is not about the Unix copyrights. It's slander of title case.

    Besides all that, you can't create a deadlock in the court system. There are safeguards for that.

  8. Re:I can't believe /. would even post this by spitzak · · Score: 2, Informative

    He made this promise after MyDoom was out there, and in fact in the very same speech in which he talked about MyDoom.

    I expect the excuse they will come up with is to say that IBM is a linux user and they are already suing them.

  9. They did just sue some users by rifftide · · Score: 2, Informative

    However, their identities cannot be revealed because all parties signed confidentiality agreements.

  10. Re:Sue ME!!! by scm · · Score: 5, Informative

    You could install Cooperative Linux. It lets you run Linux under Windows: http://www.colinux.org/

  11. Re:please sue google! by nzkoz · · Score: 3, Informative

    While no-one knows for sure, I'll speculate anyway.

    The reason that the Litigious Bastards are no-longer on top of their rightful google search is that:

    http://www.sco.com/ is offline

    I'm confident that once they're back (and googlebot realises they are) the searchgods will adjust their rankings accordingly.

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  12. Re:SCO license for you, sir? by jbardell · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seems a quick link from /. evened things out:

    Yes - 3%
    Undecided - 3%
    No - 86%
    Unsure - 8%
    (at time of my response)

    Sure straightened them out :)

  13. Re:After looking... by SagSaw · · Score: 2, Informative

    No.

    Even if there is code that is exactly the same in both linux and SCO's code, that does not mean that linux copied SCO. A number of other possibilities:

    1. SCO copied linux
    2. SCO and linux both copied somebody else
    3. SCO and linux both arrived at similar implementations of a common standard.

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  14. Re:Whom indeed? by EvilAlien · · Score: 4, Informative

    On the contrary, SCO apparently earned the title of most hated company in tech according to BW Online. Ransom Love must cry himself to sleep at night...

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  15. Re:Sue ME!!! by Popageorgio · · Score: 2, Informative
    Oh, I'm very scared. For the record, I'm Nick Douglas, douglasnw1@gcc.edu, AIM Decaf Silicon, phone number (724) 458-2915, address:

    GCC #1534
    200 Campus Dr.
    Grove City, PA 16127.

    And I download copyrighted music, share copyrighted music, and burn copyrighted music from CDs borrowed from the library.

    I also jaywalk, speed, and occasionally drink alcohol underage. I've bought cigarettes for a minor. And since I'd get a $10 refund for two hours of paperwork, I won't do my taxes this year.