They will keep coming and coming and coming until you give up, go home, cry uncle, take Prozac, get a regular day job to replace the one you quit when being an anti-spammer became your full-time job.
I submit that the vast number of programs out there are going to rely on the OS for TZ information, instead of trying to calculate DST themselves. Especially given the patchwork nature of DST in the US.
Sure, a large number of applications will rely on the OS. Those ones would be cool. However, the same could've been said about Y2K right? All the programs I write use the built in date/time libraries.
The problem is that too many people "know how slow those built in functions are" and have "highly optimised functions they built themselves". This problem is especially prevalent in large organisations which build their own apps, Banks, Insurance etc. A change of this nature is probably not of 'y2k' proportions but would definitely be a huge amount of work.
So, the next time you think "that thing's slow, I'll write my own" slap yourself in the face and get back to your real job.
Maybe I'm in over my head a little bit. Can someone still release an open source GPL product that does the same thing as McAfee's deal and be untouchable?
No, if this patent is upheld noone can release any similar functionality under any license for any reason. More or less.
Having said that, a patent is more or less useless until the patent owner successfully sues someone. Until a court upholds their patent it's just an assertion that's 'checked' by the USPTO. But I sure wouldn't want to be the poor bastard sued first.....
IBM isn't a service company, they're a sales company. They'll sell anything if there's a buck in it.As for their software business, it's incredibly profitable. Websphere goes for millions of dollars and suckers line up to buy it.
Don't buy IBM's propaganda, they're a big evil closed-source software company just like the others.
That's just *not* going to happen, Thomson charges $5 per 'unit'. If the mp3 rpms were on the installation CD, I'd imagine that redhat would be liable for that fee. Even if only non-americans installed it.
Of course, the killer feature of GDS for me, is that the results get integrated with your regular google results. So I have one place I go to search everything I need.
If Yahoo's offering won't do that it's pretty much worthless to me, no matter how fast the gui is.
Well, there are several comments from slashdotters (myself included) who have switched. So, it's definitely not completely off base.
In my case, I bought my iPod 18 months ago, and became 'mac curious' immediately, as the US deficit drove the Dollar into the ground, it became more and more economical for my to buy a mac. When I decided to buy a laptop, I didn't hesitate for a second to pick up a nice 12" powerbook, though I did bump up the ram.
I love my mac. I don't know if I'd buy a mac desktop yet. But I'm now mac-desktop-curious, and I know what happened last time I got curious.....
Too true. These companies are pricing their products realistically. They're charging what the 'market' (i.e. YOU) are willing to pay. If it's too expensive to you, DON'T BUY IT!!!.
If you're willing to shell out $50, and you are otherwise you wouldn't buy the game, the company will continue to charge those prices. I personally only shell out the cash when it's worth my while. Sure I only buy 1 or 2 games a year, but it's enough to keep me entertained. If you feel the need to buy more at $50 a pop, then EA will feel free to sell more at $50 a pop
HP and Redhats actions are completely different. HP sponsored SCO's roadshow, so we know how relevant their opinion is. And Redhat's Fedora uses GNOME by default!
Sure, slackware is considering dropping gnome support, but this isn't some kind of mass migration away from GNOME, look at what Novell & Sun base their linux desktops on.
Kudos to the submitter for successfully trolling the editors
So report the bug again. This time outlining the *real* problem, that RPM doesn't exit cleanly when destination partitions are read only. The 'corrupted database' is trivial to fix and is a side effect of the RPM process not exiting cleanly.
The bug was closed as WONTFIX because the reporter was an obnoxious prick. Referring to the developer as a Moron on repeated occasions. The fact is that if you want people to help you, yelling abuse is not a particularly good strategy.
If you'd bother to read the white paper or howto (sure, I'm new here) you'd have read that this is more than NFS mounted roots.
It's a framework for managing the servers, cached operation, integrated authentication etc. You can use this framework to manage roaming devices like laptops, allowing automatic install images, etc. etc.
An NFS solution requires network connectivity the whole time, this doesn't.
As a linux 'advocate' working in a large IBM customer (top 20), I feel your pain. However, give up on debian.
Seriously. If you try to run this stuff on anything other than an IBM-supported distro will start to refuse your support calls, charge extra for incidents and basically make pricks of themselves.
Your best bet is either:
Use Redhat or Suse
Use Whitebox
If you're already paying for DB2, Websphere *and* tivoli, you're looking at a few million a year. What does redhat cost, ~1k, just pay it. From there you can advocate JBoss/Tomcat instead of websphere, Postgresql instead of DB2 etc. etc.
If you run IBM stuff on another distribution, who do you think will be up against the wall when your fixed price call out suddenly becomes a ~$1k/hr (lab rates) fix?
Slashdot Mirror
Exactly, we (rails) changed the list to match the UN's list for precisely this reason. At the time I assumed it would prevent controversy.
Relevant changeset is available on github
No. It won't
Blog spam will never dieThis is Marc "Suck My Dick" Fleury. He already looks like a knob.
His software's great, but he's certainly trying to out do larry ellison in the fight for 'biggest ego in technology'.
And posts the same stories a week earlier! :p
Sure, but Fark only posts them once, where's the fun in that
You're describing ClearCase. And it's a horrific piece of garbage.
I submit that the vast number of programs out there are going to rely on the OS for TZ information, instead of trying to calculate DST themselves. Especially given the patchwork nature of DST in the US.
Sure, a large number of applications will rely on the OS. Those ones would be cool. However, the same could've been said about Y2K right? All the programs I write use the built in date/time libraries.
The problem is that too many people "know how slow those built in functions are" and have "highly optimised functions they built themselves". This problem is especially prevalent in large organisations which build their own apps, Banks, Insurance etc. A change of this nature is probably not of 'y2k' proportions but would definitely be a huge amount of work.
So, the next time you think "that thing's slow, I'll write my own" slap yourself in the face and get back to your real job.
Maybe I'm in over my head a little bit. Can someone still release an open source GPL product that does the same thing as McAfee's deal and be untouchable?
No, if this patent is upheld noone can release any similar functionality under any license for any reason. More or less.
Having said that, a patent is more or less useless until the patent owner successfully sues someone. Until a court upholds their patent it's just an assertion that's 'checked' by the USPTO. But I sure wouldn't want to be the poor bastard sued first .....
IBM isn't a service company, they're a sales company. They'll sell anything if there's a buck in it.As for their software business, it's incredibly profitable. Websphere goes for millions of dollars and suckers line up to buy it.
Don't buy IBM's propaganda, they're a big evil closed-source software company just like the others.
Please, it's called javascript. JScript is what Microsoft calls their version.
only difference is that binary XML file is not immediatly human readable.
Which is of course a major benefit of using XML
That's just *not* going to happen, Thomson charges $5 per 'unit'. If the mp3 rpms were on the installation CD, I'd imagine that redhat would be liable for that fee. Even if only non-americans installed it.
Besides, http://rpm.livna.org is your friend.
The gnome applet is actually using yum.
The 'redhat network' is for enterprise customers only.
Watch out. Dave Winer and friends will woop your ass.
You should be allowed to use Beta software for mission critical applications, Beta means bug free!!!
Of course, the killer feature of GDS for me, is that the results get integrated with your regular google results. So I have one place I go to search everything I need.
If Yahoo's offering won't do that it's pretty much worthless to me, no matter how fast the gui is.
Well, there are several comments from slashdotters (myself included) who have switched. So, it's definitely not completely off base.
.....
In my case, I bought my iPod 18 months ago, and became 'mac curious' immediately, as the US deficit drove the Dollar into the ground, it became more and more economical for my to buy a mac. When I decided to buy a laptop, I didn't hesitate for a second to pick up a nice 12" powerbook, though I did bump up the ram.
I love my mac. I don't know if I'd buy a mac desktop yet. But I'm now mac-desktop-curious, and I know what happened last time I got curious
I just don't understand business.
Too true. These companies are pricing their products realistically. They're charging what the 'market' (i.e. YOU) are willing to pay. If it's too expensive to you, DON'T BUY IT!!!.
If you're willing to shell out $50, and you are otherwise you wouldn't buy the game, the company will continue to charge those prices. I personally only shell out the cash when it's worth my while. Sure I only buy 1 or 2 games a year, but it's enough to keep me entertained. If you feel the need to buy more at $50 a pop, then EA will feel free to sell more at $50 a pop
God spoke to me last night, and said your post was full of shit.
HP and Redhats actions are completely different. HP sponsored SCO's roadshow, so we know how relevant their opinion is. And Redhat's Fedora uses GNOME by default!
Sure, slackware is considering dropping gnome support, but this isn't some kind of mass migration away from GNOME, look at what Novell & Sun base their linux desktops on.
Kudos to the submitter for successfully trolling the editors
Sure it will. Just look at what happened when Osama was put on the top 10 most wanted list.
Oh Wait ...
So report the bug again. This time outlining the *real* problem, that RPM doesn't exit cleanly when destination partitions are read only. The 'corrupted database' is trivial to fix and is a side effect of the RPM process not exiting cleanly.
The bug was closed as WONTFIX because the reporter was an obnoxious prick. Referring to the developer as a Moron on repeated occasions. The fact is that if you want people to help you, yelling abuse is not a particularly good strategy.
If you'd bother to read the white paper or howto (sure, I'm new here) you'd have read that this is more than NFS mounted roots.
It's a framework for managing the servers, cached operation, integrated authentication etc. You can use this framework to manage roaming devices like laptops, allowing automatic install images, etc. etc.
An NFS solution requires network connectivity the whole time, this doesn't.
As a linux 'advocate' working in a large IBM customer (top 20), I feel your pain. However, give up on debian.
Seriously. If you try to run this stuff on anything other than an IBM-supported distro will start to refuse your support calls, charge extra for incidents and basically make pricks of themselves.
Your best bet is either:If you're already paying for DB2, Websphere *and* tivoli, you're looking at a few million a year. What does redhat cost, ~1k, just pay it. From there you can advocate JBoss/Tomcat instead of websphere, Postgresql instead of DB2 etc. etc.
If you run IBM stuff on another distribution, who do you think will be up against the wall when your fixed price call out suddenly becomes a ~$1k/hr (lab rates) fix?
He just interpreted them .... differently.
I'm actually double majoring CS and economics.
That's exactly what I did, business skills (common sense economics) and technical skills (how to program) are a rare combination.
It's a good combination to have.