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Sun's Simon Phipps Answers ESR On Java
comforteagle writes "Sun's Chief Technology Officer Simon Phipps has answered Eric Raymond's open letter calling on Sun to open source Java." In the quoted response, Phipps says (condensed) "I'd say this is 100 per cent rant... His simplistic accusations don't hold water... If this is the way that Open Source treats its friends, I'd hate to see how it treats its enemies... It's pretty difficult to respond to this. He's so out of touch."
He's great on American Idol. I bet he really rips into ESR!
If this is the way that Open Source treats its friends, I'd hate to see how it treats its enemies...
From excellent karma to terible karma with a single +5 funny post...
Shame I can't see the article - /.ed already!
An open letter from RMS to clarify the situation and convince Mr. Phipps that the free software community loves him and that the open source community does not accurately represent our opinions.
So is the website...
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"I'd say this is 100 per cent rant... His simplistic accusations don't hold water... If this is the way that Open Source treats its
Warning:Simon Phipps has made an illegal operation. The application will be terminated.
sulli
RTFJ.
With those kinds of comments, I thought he was talking about GNU/RMS.
And in other news, Simon Phillips wins the "Understatement of the year" award, also known as the "GNU/Understatement of the year" award
IBM is just wrapping itself in the flag, but it still behaves like an old-fashioned systems company. Sun is actually taking the risks
Of course, it all suddenly becomes clear! Sun are taking all the risks, by investing so much time and effort in Linux development. That's why SCO are suing them, rather than those Johnny-come-latelys at IBM.
Wait a moment....
Tubal-Cain smokes the white owl.
Dean G.
And people wonder why slashdot posters never read the article before posting. We try; we want to; but we kill the poor article host.
I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on Slashdot.
I'd explain it to you, but there's no way an out of touch communist tree hugger such as yourself would understand.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
'In fact, Sun has contributed more to Open Source than anybody else bar Berkeley.'
I think he's right there. The high performance and ease of use of Sun's C Compiler did more to promote GCC than anything those GNU folks ever did. Their tireless efforts to provide an unusable toolkit and utilities throughout the lifecycle of SunOS and Solaris only proves their support for open source alternatives.
Well, a lot of people were pissed off that he put Linux under the GPL.
But personally, I see it as a good thing.
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Slightly off topic but ...
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This book (i'm currenty reading) should be of interest to Geeks looking for sex.
Growing up With Lucy
How to Build an Android in 20 Easy Steps
By Steve Grand.
Just a thought
siggy played guitar
nice. how does it go?
"Counted, counted, and you're time is up?"
The Aramaic words "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin" may be translated literally as, "It has been counted and counted, weighed and divided."
But in an effort to reach out to modern readers, a newer and more accessible translation (which nevertheles retains for metrical reasons the Old English form "belongen") renders it as:
"Pwned, Pwnded, make your time, to us are belongen all your base."
Opinions on the Twiddler2 hand-held keyboard?
> ESR should shut up and pick up a copy of the Java standard, and then start
> coding with the other open source java projects if he really wants to help.
Yeah, I don't get it. What is he for?
That's my story, and I'm sticking with it :-)
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I am a programmer. I am paid to produce syntax not grammar. Deal with it.
written by ncm, at http://advogato.org/article/752.html
Many languages have failed honorably -- Eiffel, Dylan, Oberon, Icon, CLP(R), C+@, Oak, PL/1, Bliss, Algol-68, Pascal -- some more honorably, some less, but far too many to list, or indeed to count. Others struggle vainly along, confined forever to subsidized niches -- Erlang, Common LISP, REXX, Objective-C, Delphi, Ada. Only a handful of languages sustain a vigorous population of programmers using them, industrially, for their original purpose; we need not list them.
Java survived teething only by dint of billions of dollars of promotion. It was taken up most enthusiastically by hacks living in fear of losing their jobs to other hacks more experienced on Microsoft environments. Every promise made in its infancy has proved a lie. Designed and implemented in such frantic haste that a semblance of quality was the first criterion jettisoned, it could not but grow into such a monstrosity as we face today. Today its uses in applications where it was, supposedly, intended -- cellphones, browsers, rings -- amount to little more than nasty, brutish parodies.
It is no crime for a language to fail. What is a crime is for its failure to blight the careers of the myriad young, impressionable, and naive who fell for its blandishments. What is a crime is the forests felled, pulped, and printed upon, only to be discarded unread and obsolete. What is a crime is the thousands of good ideas, and the companies formed to build them, stabbed in the back by an inadequate implementation language. What is a crime is the gigawatt-hours of energy dissipated operating wasteful JVMs on huge servers performing jobs that a hamster could do (and does) on its bathroom break.
Java is far more than a failure, far more than an annoyance, far more than the laughingstock of many industries, far more even than the evil sire of C#. It is a bona fide crime against humanity. Capital punishment would be too good for it; that is to say, it does not deserve execution.
Only one fate can be ignominious enough to expiate Java's wrongs. Java must be consigned to use as an undergraduate teaching language.
At least he likes Jaegermeister, I hear.
Does that qualify someone over there in the U.S.? Because here it is very much seen as a drink for accountants in their fifties.