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RIAA Countersued Under Racketeering Laws

Negadin writes "According to CNET News, a New Jersey woman, one of the hundreds of people accused of copyright infringement by the Recording Industry Association of America, has countersued the big record labels, charging them with extortion and violations of the federal antiracketeering act." The woman's attornies are arguing that "...by suing file-swappers for copyright infringement, and then offering to settle instead of pursuing a case where liability could reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, the RIAA is violating the same laws that are more typically applied to gangsters and organized crime."

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  1. A Long Shot? by klasikahl · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think it's worthy to note that, in the headline, CNET News called the lawsuit a "long-shot."

  2. Re:She'll lose by IllogicalStudent · · Score: 5, Informative

    She'll never win, she won't have the cashflow.

    She might not have the cashflow, but if what an earlier poster said about the Racketeering Act covering legal fees is true, that mightn't matter.

    I quote the earlier poster:

    Section 1964 of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act not only provides for civil remedies in cases like this, but also automatically triples the damages and covers court costs and lawyers' fees.
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  3. Re:She has a case - really by kurt555gs · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just read that a fedral judge told the RIAA to stop calling file sharing 'piracy'.

    He said, it is something new and not yet defined, but it is not 'piracy'

    I do not think I should have to pay some organazation every time i hear a tune.

    I think making counterfit CD's or CHARGING for some one elses work IS piracy, but I really am not sure file sharing for free is...

    And neither is the fedral judiciary

    cheers

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  4. Re:The difference by and+by · · Score: 5, Informative

    But if they do that and you can show that they're doing so in order to unnecessarily prolong the proceedings or cause undue hardships (and we're not talking a high standard of proof here) they get their case thrown out and they will probably have to pay for your lawyer. See Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 11.

  5. Re:Probably won't stick by wo1verin3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    >>I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that
    >>it's pretty likely that the p2p users the RIAA
    >>chose to sue were actually violating the law.

    I wouldn't jump very hard on that limb...

    Do you remember the grandmother who thought Kazaa was the name of a clown, or Ross Plank who was accused of downloading Spanish language songs but doesn't speak spanish?.

  6. Re:She has a case by Ateryx · · Score: 5, Informative
    Look for Howard Berman, et al, to start introducing rackateering-exempt bills...

    What somethinghallow is referring to is this response to a local newspapers editorial staff.

    Here is a little sampling of my favorites for the lazy slashdot reader:

    "...what is shocking is that the entertainment industries are now being completely lambasted by the editorial board for what is essentially their home town paper."
    The editoral board of a home town paper is supposed to completely support any stance of local industries?

    Its actually very difficult to tell what side he is on, because he keeps bringing up opposing views :
    The nature of the problem is easy to describe to any consumer who has tried to jump into the digital content fray. A well-meaning consumer buys songs through the Apple iTunes store rather than downloading illegal files from Kazaa. But then, he finds those songs don?t play on his Creative Nomad MuVo digital music player, which he bought for a substantial sum only last year. Another well-meaning consumer finds he cannot sign up for Movielink because he refuses to use Internet Explorer as his browser. Another finds that, in signing up for different digital media services, each attempts to establish a different media player as his default, the result being substantial annoyance and inconvenience when trying to use a service.

    But the best quote by far:
    The editorial uses as a jumping off point the recent decision of the Federal Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in a case that pitted Verizon against the Recording Industry Association of America. ... few paragraphs later ... The editorial also characterizes the D.C. Circuit decision as ?a victory for consumer privacy rights.? I think it?s the opposite.
    I always forget that not providing your customer's names away for what has been illegal finding of your customer's ISP is not a "victory for comsumer privacy".../sarcasm

    I think this just serves as a reminder to go out and vote this fall.

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  7. Re:Mod UP? by HiThere · · Score: 5, Informative

    In a way, you're right. If the laws are corrupt, then the only hope is that juries will refuse to enforce them.

    And despite what judges and lawyers will tell you, this is a legal right, which pre-dates the constitution, and was not overrulled by it.

    Because of this the govt. is trying to remove the requirement for unanimity on the part of the jury to achieve a conviction. Some people, for some reason, don't think that the government is treating people fairly.

    Now that mainly has to do with criminal prosecutions, and this is probably a civil matter, but the same basic principles apply. Juries should attend to the facts, and attend to the laws, and then decide as their ethics requires. Judges are to instruct you in matters of law, and to see that the evidence is presented in a proper manner. Juries are to decide what the verdict should be.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  8. Re:She has a case - really by kwandar · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's theft.

    No, its not. Altogether now kiddies - its "copyright infringement"

  9. Re:She has a case - really by nudicle · · Score: 5, Informative
    You're probably thinking of arguments heard in a 9th Circuit appeals cout on Feb. 3 of this year in re: the Grokster case. During those oral arguments, available as mp3 here , Judge Noonan told music industry attorney Cary Ramos to stop using abusive language like "theft" when framing his arguments against Grokster.

    Listening to the above mp3 is great to (1) listen to what a real appellate argument sounds like, and (2) hear real lawyers debate stuff that's important to many /. readers, including file sharing and the meaning of the Sony Betamax decision.

    Related links are here and here.