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Price-Fixing Settlement Checks in the Mail

toastyman writes "Remember the Music Industry $67m settlement from way back in 2002? Seven months later than planned, your $13.86 check is finally on its way. In addition to the cash settlement, the defendants in the suit are also giving 5.6 million CD's to educational programs."

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  1. Wonderful! by Leola · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is pretty great, but weren't the checks supposed to be a bit larger, closer to 20 (US) dollars?

    Not that I'm complaining, since it's great we finally get to stick it to those thieving bastards. My brothers and sisters all should be getting checks too, as well as my father. I for one am going to put the money towards a new hard drive to store all the music I download. :-P *

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    1. Re:Wonderful! by tambo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      That mean, naughty music industry duped you into buying all those CDs - you had not the will power to say no.

      What part of "price fixing" don't you understand?

      This isn't some weird products liability case (e.g., you McDonald's analogy.) This is a case about the RIAA using its monopoly power over the CD market to set an arbitrarily high price of CDs. It's what happens in the absence of competition. (Another consequence is that the RIAA can abuse its customers and treat us all like scoundrels, without fear of us taking our business to a competitor.)

      This crime was complete when the first CD was offered for sale at $20 - even before it was purchased. So your sarcasm is poorly aimed.

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  2. We should all by Ymiris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Give our HUGE check to the woman fighting the RIAA, that would be good :)

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  3. $i3.86? by PollGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Talk about a poke in the eye to the RIAA.

  4. Refund! by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh yay! With that $25 tax refund, I'll be stylin'!

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  5. Big bloody deal. by grub · · Score: 5, Interesting


    the defendants in the suit are also giving 5.6 million CD's to educational programs.

    I bet these will be the first CDs to sport the New & Improved FBI Anti-Piracy Seal

    Jokes aside, the story doesn't quote the exact number of people getting cheques ("More than three millions") so I'll err to averages that 3.5 millions people will get $13.86. That's $48,510,000. Who gets the other $18,490,000? The lawyers.

    Another nit to pick is that they'll be giving out 5.6 million CDs. big deal, they can write that off in the accounting office. What they'll donate are discs that are sitting in warehouses because of poor sales. After all, a write off is better than dumping them in a landfill.

    The recording industry isn't taking a bit hit on this by any stretch, the only ones to profit are the lawyers.

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    1. Re:Big bloody deal. by pegr · · Score: 5, Informative

      As long as you're looking a gift horse in the mouth, don't forget that you have to report the $13.86 check as income on your taxes next April!

      No, since the award is compensation for damages you've already suffered, its even and no taxable event occured... Unless you wrote off the "damage" already in a previous tax year. (IANATA - I Am Not A Tax Accountant...)

  6. 5.6 Mil CDs... by cableshaft · · Score: 5, Funny

    5.6 million CD's to music-education programs? Did the government specify what counted as educational? They could have just used this as an opportunity to send more "Don't be an evil pirate, YAAAR!" propaganda to the schools.

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  7. A whole $67million settlement? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, at least it's nice to know that as punishment for their sins, record industry executives will have to settle for regular leather instead of the Corinthian leather on their next Lexus purchase.

  8. That's a lot of CDs by Patik · · Score: 5, Funny
    the defendants in the suit are also giving 5.6 million CD's to educational programs
    Not to be outdone, AOL announced they will donate 56 million CDs to LFAA (landfills across America).
  9. Best way to spend $13.86 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Buy CD-R's

  10. What the heck? by TimTurnip · · Score: 5, Insightful
    They're donating millions of CD's for educational purposes?

    I'd love to see what those albums are, and what their educational value truly is. Unless they're delivering symphony recordings and classical masterpieces for a music class, I can't see how that's an advantage for consumer me.

    At least when MS donated OS licenses and things, one could argue that Windows machines can actually facilitate learning in all sorts of areas (let the MS flaming begin). This sounds like a cop out to me. Blah.

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  11. By the way.. by XaXXon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These CDs? Yeah, they're each worth $5,000 USD.

    I hate the way people can get away with giving away "content" at inflated prices. If they gave away $5.6M in MEDIA costs of CDs to educational entities, I'd feel like they were punished. This is like MS giving away a bunch of software.

    I've written this many times before, but it's not a punishment/loss of revenue if there was never any money in the first place. If the CD's cost $.10 each for them to make (made that number up, but it seems reasonable), then it really cost them $560K. A large number, but not nearly as large s 5.6M. If they had to REFUND $5.6M back to educational groups that had purchased CDs, that would be the way to really punish them.

    This is just like MS offering to give a bunch of money's worth of software to schools. It doesn't cost 'em anything to give stuff to a place that would have never bought it in the first place, since initial R&D is the cost, and that's constant. Distribution is a trivial cost at the end.

  12. Great! by donnyspi · · Score: 5, Funny
    Now the Music Industry is only suing me for:

    $100,000.00
    - $13.86
    -----------
    $99986.14

    Yipee!

  13. Priceless by rlp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I plan to take my $13.86 check and give the money to the EFF.

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  14. A complete rip-off by sdo1 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Do yourselves a favor and donate your refund to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

    Personally, a check that small is a slap in the face. They did nothing to account for the number of CDs purchased during the time in question. I checked. I added well over 200 CDs to my collection during that time. Yet I get the same amount back as someone who bought just a few.

    -S

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  15. Re:...giving 5.6 million CD's to educational progr by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not sell those 5.6 million cds and give the profit to educational programs instead?

    For the same reason that Microsoft gives $xM worth of free software whenever possible to settle their lawsuits:

    It's not a "real" penalty, it just looks like one to the rubes who don't realize that each physical software package/music CD costs practically nothing to produce, but is counted at its full retail value when given away.

    Giving away profits as penalty for corporate wrongdoing? In George W. Bush's America? Ha!

    ~Philly

  16. give it to an unsigned musician! by rjnagle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know any money is helpful, but consider that the overwhelming majority of musicians are not signed and have no hope of securing a record deal. And that iTunes (if they can get signed on), only compensates them about 11% or so.

    Here's a better idea. Look at all those musicians who let you download music legally and dash them an email, saying I want to give the money to you as a way of saying thanks for being so generous and talented.

    To love the music, you must share the music. Sharethemusicday .

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  17. Put your money where your mouth is by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Informative

    Donate your check to the EFF and help fight for those freedoms you keep complaining about being taken away. Just forward your check to:

    Electronic Frontier Foundation
    454 Shotwell
    San Francisco, CA 94110

    You can also make a donation at their website:
    https://secure.eff.org/

  18. A drop in the bucket... by JWG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...not to sound like michael moore, but this corporate crime thing really bothers me. this settlement adds up to a drop in the bucket for the recording companies. if corporations are allowed to be treated like individuals, so that no individual within the company is ever held responsible, then we should be able to punish corporations like individuals. legally control their business practises... freeze wages, firing, and take a percentage of their profits.

  19. A public service announcement by AndroidonPPC · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Yaaarrr.... well, I guess it started innocently enough. I thought I had power over me piracy, yarr I did, downloading a song heeeere, a dirge there. I still bought cd's, but I did so less and less. Eventually, yaaaar, it escalated to movies and the last games for me X-box. But it didn't stop there.

    "Pretty soon I had me eyepatch and started swashbuckling. I spent all me bullion on spiced rum and me ship, a fine seafaring vessel she be. Yaarr, I thought I could stop, but now it's gone to far. Now I am stuck in an endless loop of pillage, sack and plunder, yaaarrr."

    Remember kids, only pirates wear eyepatches. Don't be a pirate, YAAAR!

  20. Re:YIPPY by Golias · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Really? Every CD at my local Best Buy in the Twin Cities is $13 - $18, apart from a handful of "bargain" titles. At record stores, it's even worse.

    As far as I've seen, CD prices are exactly where they were a year ago, if not slightly higher. Anybody who thought this lawsuit would accomplish anything other than making a few scumwad lawyers rich was a naive fool.

    This is why I never participate in class-action lawsuits unless I was actually wronged in some way. Accepting my money for an overpriced item I choose to buy of my own free will is not something I should be able to sue you for.

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  21. Re:YIPPY by Pope · · Score: 5, Informative

    And, taking inflation into account, that's cheaper than a US$9 LP is 1980 dollars.

    In 1989 when I started buying CDs, they were about US$13 to US$18. So, after inflation, they have gotten cheaper.

    On top of that, most LPs in the 70s and 80s were 35 to 40 minutes; the average CD I'd reckon on 50 to 70 minutes. So, again, you're getting more music for your money these days.

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