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Electric Shavers Rot Your Brain

Damek writes "According to UW researchers, prolonged exposure to low-level magnetic fields, similar to those emitted by such common household devices as blow dryers, electric blankets and razors, can damage brain cell DNA. The damage appears to be cumulative, so you'd best get rid of your electric razors & blankets ASAP! The full study is available online now. No word yet for Cell Phone users' brains..."

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  1. Umm... by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wouldn't this only be a problem if you use these devices every day directly in contact with your skull? I mean, is the range really that far reaching? If the range really is that far reaching, what about power tools and such? Of course, I can think of a few people [McBride] I'd like to have power tools come in direct contact with their skull, but that's beside the point.

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    1. Re:Umm... by jejones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wouldn't this only be a problem if you use these devices every day directly in contact with your skull?

      Hmmm...I use headphones, don't you?

    2. Re:Umm... by Dr.+Mojura · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Exactly. This doesn't seem to take into account the possible self-repair that the brain performs. It could very well be that any damage inflicted on the brain via magnetic fields would be repaired during sleep.

      It's been reported that sleep repairs the normal daily damage done on the brain from free radicals (different stages of sleep repairing different parts of the brain), and I can't see why this wouldn't carry over to magnetic damage. Is there a neurosurgeon in the house?

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    3. Re:Umm... by AvitarX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know this physics stuff very well, but is this unique to AC?

      because my razor has a battery in it (as do most I think) so it is not 60hz AC.

      Also I see no mention of new fangled toothbrushs. I use one of them inside my scull everymorning.

      I am too stupid to figure out how to read more then the blurb. Maybe it is the toothbrush's fault.

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  2. Minor nit to pick... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Exposure also resulted in a marked increase in brain cell apoptosis, or "cell suicide," a process in which a cell self-destructs because it can't repair itself.

    I'd say that apoptosis is better characterized as "natural cell death". It's a natural and essential part of the cell's life cycle, and certainly isn't as alarming as the article's tone suggests.

    In fact, we have a word for cells that don't undergo apoptosis: Cancer.

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  3. Radiation from Monitors by jnguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How does staring at a monitor for 10-14 hours a day affect your brain? Not good is my guess.

    1. Re:Radiation from Monitors by mosb1000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, you should be able to tell that by how it gives you a headache after you've used it for a while. Then again, maybe I just get that from the flicker. At any rate, my girlfriends iMac doesn't have the problem. There's a NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) Spectrometer in the basement of the chemistry building where I go to school. Every-time I get near it I get a splitting headache and feel sick to my stomach (as a result I try not to get near it). I've always wondered it was the magnetic field of just the ultrasonic noise it emits.

  4. Headphones by Genjurosan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What about headphones? If something powered only by a couple of AA batteries causes damage, how about my headphones with two silver dollar sized speakers in them?

    uggg...

  5. Low (?) level magnetic fields by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What about living directly under a ~40kV power line?

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    1. Re:Low (?) level magnetic fields by TechnologyX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      According to this page, it's a minimal risk. I remember a study a while back that said that communities that had standard household power lines running through the yards of the homes yielded a higher cancer rate, but now that seems to not be the case.

      Better insulating perhaps?

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  6. Nothing to do with mobile phones by p3tersen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    mobile phones operate at frequencies many millions of times higher than the fields used in this study. cellular damage from exposure to low-frequency fields (if real) would surely be mediated by a different effect than cellular damage from exposure to high-frequency fields (if real).

    i am skeptical of this study because a friend of mine who works in biomagnetics assures me that the effects of high B-fields on human tissue were carefully invesigated prior to the approval of MRI macines for use in biomedical imaging. any ill effects due to low-frequency or DC fields would have been found at that time. of course this is just hearsay and i am not qualified (or inclined) to assess this particular study on it's scientific merit! : )

  7. Re:ugh. by supertsaar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ever see that experiment where they stand a plate of solid aluminium on its edge in the center of an MRI scanner? Whe they let go, It falls down really slowly due to magnetic flux. (antiflux? its been a while since my last physics class :) ) That is not the same as 'starting to move on its own', granted. But magnetic fields do have an influence on non magnetic metals....

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  8. Floating Frogs by Venner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hell, pretty much anything becomes paramagnetic if you have strong enough fields. Some things have stronger diamagnetic properties than others though.
    Aluminum is actually fairly paramagnetic, if I recall.

    Back in 1997 a group even levitated a frog in a 16 Tesla field. How fun is that?

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  9. Re:ugh. by sacremon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MRI tends to operate in the area of 1T, which is 2000 - 10000 times stronger than the fields used in this study.

    There have been a number of studies in the past that have tried to link exposure to magnetic fields to cancer (particularly leukemia in children who live near high voltage power lines). It has generally been scoffed at, as the energies involved are not enough to break chemical bonds. However, by involving iron and free radicals, the energies involved can have an impact on reactivity.

    Makes me wonder, given I did my Ph.D. dissertation in a lab that studied free radicals, using machines that generated fields of 0.3T (note, not mT) for hours at a time...

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  10. Ratchet powered shavers and Clockwork Vibrators. by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No I'm not kidding.

    There used to be shavers that relied on the user using a squeezing action to pump a ratchet gear which kept an internal flywheel working.

    They were manufactured by "Viceroy". I was given a broken one to play with when I was a kid. I was fascinated by it.

    http://www.fixyourshaver.com/images/Viceroy_1937 .j pg
    http://bakelite_world_2001.tripod.com/itsbakel itey ouknow/id24.html

    Is there as causal link between women using vibrators and medical problems?

    Anyway, before items such as those we may have seen on television appeared e.g. as found here: http://www.toysforusonline.com/productlstR.cfm?cat =VIBRATORS

    there were clockwork alternatives, as theis article explains, (diagram half way down page):
    http://www.libidomag.com/nakedbrunch/maine s.html

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  11. My car is killing me by Mr_Huber · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder what the magetic fields from my '04 Prius' electric motor is doing? Also, has anyone else noticed their cassette tapes have a 2 week half life?

  12. Low level EM fields ? by dinog · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Hmm. I guess I'll have to give up many things. I don't use a hair dryer or electronic shaver, but I do start my car every day. The solenoid puts off a fairly strong EMP. No more cars for me. Also My TV and microwave have to go. I'll get rid of my phone, computer, and stereo as well. Those speakers with gigantic magnets can't be doing me any good. Hmmm, isn't sunlight a form of low level EM radiation ?

    Maybe I should just disconnect myself from the so called grid, move out into the country and orienteer in the dark for entertainment. All I'll need is matches and a compass ... (?) .... AAAAIIIRRRGGH !!!
    My God, I'm doomed....

    Dean G.

  13. Fenton Reaction by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The effect noted in the article is hypothesized to be caused by a Fenton reaction. This is the reaction of iron with other materials to form radicals. In this case it would be to form oxidizing radicals, such as hyperoxide species. These cause oxidative stress and damage if they're too concentrated. This was discussed in a recent /. article on high EM fields (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/ 09/1223246&tid=). Their hypothesis comes from the fact that they used oxidizer scrubbers, like vitamin E, to prevent the effect. Oxidative stress is blamed for causing Parkinson's and other apoptosis based disorders, arthritis and non-viral immunosuppression (chronic fatigue/immune deficiency syndrome).

    As I said then, we're sadly ignorant about the effects of water in its various conditions and products due to external forces, on our systems. We're starting to find out a lot of answers, good and bad, are focused on water. In this respect, this article makes perfect sense.

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  14. Apoptosis=self destruct by tgibbs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd say that apoptosis is better characterized as "natural cell death". It's a natural and essential part of the cell's life cycle, and certainly isn't as alarming as the article's tone suggests.

    Yes and no. There are certainly cells that naturally undergo apoptosis (a.k.a. programmed cell death) in their life cycles. If not for apoptosis, we'd all have webbed fingers. But apoptosis also seems to function as an "emergency self destruct" circumstance in which something has gone catastrophically wrong with a cell. And just as in the movies, it's likely that occasionally something manages to push that big red button by mistake...

  15. Re:How close? by SlashSim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Draping your welding cable over your shoulder and behind your back so that it passes near your wallet while welding will eventually ruin your credit cards too.

    Why throw it over your shoulder like a continental soldier? It's easier to weld a clean bead and less tiring when you're not holding up 5 feet of #2 AWG cable with the stinger.

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  16. Re:How close? by Dr.+GeneMachine · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Not if it's 10 Tesla. Found that out the hard way. ;)

    Yeah... welcome to the club. Ahh the powers of an NMR magnet - erased my credit cards on my last day of work before going on vacation. Found myself in italy the next day with a fried card. Yay.

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