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Singularity Sky

Indomitus writes "I used to read tons of science fiction, nothing but for long stretches. Then I grew up and realized that most science fiction sucked. I look back on the time spent reading anything by Piers Anthony and know I'm going to be wishing I had those hours back when I'm older. Writers like Charlie Stross are the reason I know most SF sucks, because he does it so well. He fills this somewhat slim book with more ideas than any 10 other books from the section his work inhabits at the bookstore." Read on for the rest. Singularity Sky author Charles Stross pages 313 publisher Berkley Pub Group rating 9.9 reviewer Matt Grommes ISBN 0441010725 summary A semi-sentient space travelling information gatherer called The Festival comes to a backward planet and instigates 1000 years of technological change in a month. The rulers of the world are not too happy and will use any means they have to stop the Festival, even if it means incurring the wrath of the super-AI that watches over the universe.

The main idea of the story, that a semi-sentient information-gathering alien system called the Festival comes to a backward farming planet and begins granting wishes -- in the form of advanced technology -- in exchange for stories and information, is only the seedbed for the larger exploration of the societally backward planetary system and what happens when the revolution you hoped to lead finally comes and it doesn't need you.

As a lifelong reader of science fiction, I hate that most SF is just as backward-looking as most Fantasy. Part of the problem with recent SF work is that we've come to a point in science where a lot of what made science fiction new has been done and what's coming is almost impossible to imagine, which I'll get to in a second. Space exploration can still be exciting but most new space stuff has been infected with the Star Trek Syndrome, as I call it, where everyone is boring and has no flaws, and the status quo rules. People just don't look to space exploration as exciting in real life so that translates to the SF work that people do. Real life science is changing so fast that it leaves even science fiction people in the dust. The result is the rise of 'Fantasy with robots and aliens' and 'Space Opera,' two facets of SF that seem to be dominating the landscape. Even Neal Stephenson, who was at the forefront of real technological future SF with The Diamond Age and Snow Crash has gone backward with Quicksilver and to a lesser extent Cryptonomicon.

The issue is The Singularity. This is Vernor Vinge's idea that technological progress proceeds at an exponential rate until there is a complete break with what came before. The End Of History, as people call it. This comes with the creation of a human-level AI that quickly proceeds past human-level, the invention of Upload technology that will allow us to live in computer systems and artificial bodies, something of that nature that we can't imagine. The problem with writing futuristic work in the time before a Singularity is that you can't see beyond it. Everything is different, so much so that all we can hope for is the fire up our imaginations to the point where we can begin to think in new ways.

One of the main goals of science fiction as I see it is to prepare us for the future. You can't hope to cope with the future if you've never been innoculated with new ideas. Singularity Sky is one of the first post-Singularity novels I've read that takes the idea seriously and examines it, allowing us to open our minds to the vast possibilities. Stross doesn't shy away from it like so many others. He uses the Festival's coming to show the speed of the change that comes with a technological Singularity and what happens to people in the aftermath. He also shows a culture trying desperately to hang on to old ways and the futility of doing that in the face of such rapid change.

There are problems with the book, mostly in the perennial bugbear of science-fiction, character development, but the rush of ideas glossed over that for me. This is only Mr. Stross's second book, I believe, the first being a collection of short stories called Toast: And Other Rusted Futures, that is high on my Must Read list. Charles Stross is a name that you will hopefully hear a lot more from in the coming years. His imagination is up there with the best and brightest and with his work as an accelerant my mind can't help but burn with new ideas. I hope more science fiction writers see this book and decide to move forward to meet him.

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  1. Does it so well? by CanSpice · · Score: 5, Funny
    Writers like Charlie Stross are the reason I know most SF sucks, because he does it so well.
    So you're saying he's good at writing SF that sucks?
    1. Re:Does it so well? by pilgrim23 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sturgeon's Law as in Theodore Sturgeon, author and editor of Sci Fi of "The Golden Age" and the period just after that, said it best when staring at the Slush pile (the unsolisited manuscripts) on his desk: "90% of everything is Crud!"

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    2. Re:Does it so well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I look back on the time spent reading anything by Piers Anthony and know I'm going to be wishing I had those hours back when I'm older.

      Don't live in the past. If you enjoyed the books at the time you were reading them, they fulfilled their purpose. What else exactly would you have done if someone had convinced you that you'd dislike them later? Probably nothing nearly as much fun as the reading you actually did.

    3. Re:Does it so well? by GCP · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you missed the whole FICTION part.

      I think you missed the whole IMAGINATION part.

      Fiction doesn't require the environment to be cartoonish or absurd, nor does a detailed and realistic environment rule out detailed and realistic characters.

      Tom Clancy's Hunt for Red October has plenty of character interaction, and it's all played out in the amazing environment of real 1980s submarine technology and real 1980s international politics. When I was at the Naval Academy, midshipmen (the students) were required to read it for the many interacting issues of technology, politics, leadership styles, organizational structure, etc.

      Now imagine something similar to Hunt for Red October but stretching to predict the technological, political, social, economic etc. circumstances of a generation or so from now. (And all of those aspects drive each other and provide real motivations for the characters.)

      Assume a Clancy-like author who will put as much effort into his predicted details as the real Clancy does into his fiction. Despite the inevitable forecasting errors, a good, well-informed, careful Clancyish author who did a lot of interviews and a lot of study could create a story that would be far more interesting than just character interactions in the semi-void of a poorly developed environment.

      Personally, I thought 2001 was incredibly boring.

      I don't admire the plot, just the creation of realistic vignettes (based on what was known at that time) of a possible future. As soon as it got beyond Jupiter, it was just random noise as far as I was concerned, but those aspects aren't what I'm referring to.

      If you want factually based forward thinking literature, go read NASA manuals.

      I have, which is why I'm no longer satisfied with today's SF comic books. I think real life is far more interesting, and that goes double for realistic speculations on our future lives.

      I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by NASA people when I was a kid, back when 2001 (movie) came out. I assure you that the NASA folks were entranced by the scenes from 2001 of the space station docking maneuvers, of the interactions of the human crew with the onboard computer (HAL) and other aspects of the movie. It spurred a lot of discussions.

      Imagine such a movie or novel created today. Forget about aliens and hokey telepathic beings and other nonsense. If space is involved, it should just be a reasonable near-Earth industrial and scientific environment. The real thing is more amazing than any alien stories or other hokum. Or, just keep it on Earth.

      Extrapolate today's infant technologies, social movements, economic changes, political changes, etc. with imagination and Clancy-like attention to detail, then (unlike 2001, but like Clancy) have a real plot with real characters against a background that seems even more plausible to the well-informed than to the general public.... ...and THAT is what I'd love to see.

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    4. Re:Does it so well? by SpinningAround · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are so right...Rendezvous With Rama is one of the seminal works of SF.

      Rama is perhaps the first SF book I read where alien technology is just incomprehensible to humans. Rama comes, Rama goes and we are not much the wiser at the end of the book about what it is. Far more likely than the Star Trek ubiquitous humanoid scenario.

      Sadly the 4 follow-up books (which I seem to recall are co-written with someone) are a waste of paper.

  2. Heh. Gottalove it. by dragondm · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought it was good.

    You got to love a book that starts with it raining telephones.

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  3. Play nice with Piers Anthony by YukioMishima · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Play nice with Piers Anthony. While Anthony's sci-fi books are definitely space opera, without his work, I would never have become the sci-fi reader I am today. His "Bio of a Space Tyrant" series was my first glimpse into some of the ideas that would germinate into a lifelong love of science fiction. He's an enthusiastic writer, and really does interact well with his fans, as evidenced by the fan correspondence he includes at the end of his books. Finally, at least it's reading and it's fun - I think the tradeoff for my hours is well worth it.

    1. Re:Play nice with Piers Anthony by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On a Pale Horse is a wonder. If this is the sort of thing that Mr. Anthony is capable of I certainly wish he'd produce more of it.

      With each further volume however he "progressed" more and more toward his standard goofey fantasy style, which is fine for a book or two of light reading, but that's about it. It gets old, in a hurry.

      So, while in essence I agree with you, I nonetheless found the series as a whole dissapointing.

      KFG

  4. Oh for christ's sake by Mukaikubo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reviewer needs to get off his high horse. It's fine that you experienced a loss of faith or whatever the smeg changed for you, but don't insult the rest of us who still like the sci-fi you sneer at (ooohhh, space operas, how amusingly plebeian- give me a break).

    1. Re:Oh for christ's sake by (trb001) · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Agreed. While I would never give out an award for the writing in the Xanth series, it was creative and entertaining. Not every movie will receive an Oscar, but that doesn't mean that they aren't great in their own respect. Let me guess, you think heavy metal is 'lots of noise and stuff' too?

      --trb

    2. Re:Oh for christ's sake by Mukaikubo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Help me better myself... where have I heard that before?

      Anyway, if you look at the Ringworld cycle as juvenile, I have nothing but pity for you. If you disdain Manifold: Time and The Light of Other Days, I scorn you. And if you buy into the reviewer's hypothesis that a higher percentage of scifi sucks than ANY OTHER POP CULTURE FORMAT, I laugh at you.

  5. Don't knock Piers Anthony by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is easy to knock the guy if you think he is 100% Xanth. However, this is the same guy responsible for "Macroscope" (Nebula award nomination). The Cluster/Tarot series is also a worthy effort, with imaginative aliens that beat Niven's creations. There is also "OX", a decent attempt to make a novel around John Conway's "Game of Life".

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  6. Heinlein Doesn't Suck! by waif69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know that you were writing a review of a book, not written by Heinlein, but the comment that most SciFi sucks, IMHO is going overboard. OK, perhaps 30% is lousy, and that might go even higher if you compare everyone to the standards that Heinlein and Clark and Asimov had set.

    Obviously I have a lot of respect for the authors stated above, since they all have stong scientific backgrounds and truly understand the human condition. I just had to respond, don't hate me for message.

    1. Re:Heinlein Doesn't Suck! by bbsguru · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not all SF is classic literature?

      Pshaw! next you'll try to tell us that not all reality television is real, or that pro Wrestling isn't a sport.

      Most of everything is not the Best of anything. Get a clue. It's reading the rest that makes the best such a treasure.

      And lay off Piers Anthony. He ain't Heinlein or Asimov, but neither is William Gibson. Nobody is. That's why Heinlein and Asimov are important.

  7. Speaking of bad... by Euphonious+Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just finished the worst book I have read in years -- "Chindi" by Jack McDermitt. It's awful from the very first line: "The Benjamin ... was at the extreme limit of its survey territory ..." Each chapter is worse than the last, each deft touch reveals it as the more tawdry. Chapters start with quotes from great but somehow sophomoric works of the 23rd century. The ship's captain is gorgeous but unfulfilled. Every character is bored with his or her life and life's work, desperate to relieve the tedium. Reading it was like watching a train wreck. Recommended, sort of.

  8. try again by lambent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole "magic is indistinguishable ..." bit, as well as 'uploading' yourself into a computer, as well as 'let's see what happens when old fashioned cultures collide with new cultures' is all old hat. Already been done many times before.

    This is nothing new. The man you extol as being a fresh creative force for the beleagured sci-fi genre is doing the same thing every author has done for the bast 80 years.

  9. Try branching out.. by bravehamster · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you think that the majority of scifi sucks these days, you aren't looking very hard. Try Iain M. Banks, anything of his, and then look me in the eye and tell me scifi sucks. Ditto for Stephen Baxter, or David Brin, or Greg Bear or Gregory Benford. Hmm...that's a lot of B's....

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    1. Re:Try branching out.. by Mukaikubo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The joke in the fandom community is that they're the "Killer Bees".

      Baxter earned my unending adulation for whatever part of "The Light of Other Days" he contributed with Clarke, and "Manifold: Time" sealed the deal. Favorite writer of the 1990s for me.

    2. Re:Try branching out.. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Try Iain M. Banks, anything of his, and then look me in the eye and tell me scifi sucks. Ditto for Stephen Baxter, or David Brin, or Greg Bear or Gregory Benford. Hmm...that's a lot of B's....

      That's also a lot of men. Try Octavia Butler.

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    3. Re:Try branching out.. by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Joan Vinge.

      Her vision of the future was dominated by amoral corrupt corporations, hypocritical religion, by a class/caste system and by drug syndicates.

      Then again, maybe that was just observation.

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    4. Re:Try branching out.. by Damek · · Score: 3, Interesting

      or Ken MacLeod or Alastair Reynolds or Kim Stanley Robinson or Octavia Butler or... there are so many (and they don't all have last names starting with B :)

    5. Re:Try branching out.. by Flamerule · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Fine, I'll look you in the eye and tell you that I can't stand reading David Brin. His characters are flat and lifeless, altered however necessary to get across whatever "insightful" political or philosophical point he wants to emphasize this paragraph. Sundiver was okay, but Startide Rising and the Uplift War were absolutely hideously dry. Not only can he not do characters, he can't do plots or interesting situations either. I had to struggle to finish both of the above.
      *stares* You think they were dry? Of all words, dry? Startide Rising and The Uplift War were full of... emotion, description, action... they were fucking organic. Sundiver was far plainer and drier than those 2. I thought the characters and plots were thoroughly engrossing.
      All of the above are why sci-fi sucks. They're excellent examples of the "Plot? Characterization? Who needs those! We've got SCIENCE!" school of thought. They're so wrapped up in how scientifically accurate they are that they totally forget that scientific accuracy is not and has never been an element of an engaging story. Especially since their "accurate" predictions usually get disproven or debunked by scientists within six months of publication anyway.
      At this point I have to question whether you actually intended the above to include Brin, since it doesn't describe his novels at all. So you've read Startide Rising and The Uplift War, right? Where were there any scientific predictions of any sort? The novels are far more character- and story-driven. The only thing that's even vaguely scientific is the entire process of uplifting dolphins and chimps; none of the technology used, for example, is gone into at all. It's just there: superluminal drives, probability drives, weapons, etc. All of those are "far-future magic" sort of technologies. Maybe Sundiver has some of what you're describing, but I'm familiar with Bear and Benford, and Brin's Uplift Trilogy, at least, is quite distant from their work.

      And just as an aside, Benford's Timescape was superb.

  10. Is this a book review? by Mr2cents · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or is it general SF bashing? Most SF sucks, I hate this, I hate that, that is boring, ...
    The fact is: most x suck, where x can be anything you like (TV programs, /. stories, people, hookers, ...). Get over it and stay on topic next time.

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    1. Re:Is this a book review? by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 3, Funny
      most x suck, where x can be anything you like (TV programs, /. stories, people, hookers, ...)

      Hookers only suck when you pay extra.

  11. And when you're older still... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 4, Interesting


    ...you'll look back on your Slashdot submission and realize what a pretentious uptight snob you were, and you'll wish you had the time back you spend shunning things that were actually entertaining.

    Based on your review, I'll take Anthony over Stross:

    There are problems with the book, mostly in the perennial bugbear of science-fiction, character development, but the rush of ideas glossed over that for me.

    I'm sorry, I prefer a few good ideas and good characters versus poor characters and many ideas.

  12. A Colder War by HeghmoH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If anybody is interested in seeing a glimpse of what this author can produce, his short story "A Colder War" is available online for free at http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.ht m.

    This story is one of the best I've ever read, and it's the only work of fiction I have ever encountered, on paper or on the screen, that actually managed to give me nightmares. Go read it if you haven't!

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  13. Piers Anthony by nicophonica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do have one good thing to say about Pierce Anthony. I was reading him one day and suddenly a little thought balloon formed over my head which read: "This is crap." I threw the book down in disgust and learned a valuable lesson: it's not a moral failing to give up on a bad book. Quite the opposite, it a sin to reward a horrible writer by plowing threw dreck just to finish it.

  14. Double edged sword by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sci-Fi has always been a bit difficult for me. I love the ideas of building new technology, visiting new worlds, and finding out new things about the Universe. Above all though, it still should be entertaining.

    Unfortunately, most Sci-Fi writers fall into two categories:

    1. Taking the "human condition" to the extreme. Futures where sex is the only thing driving humanity. Of course, they're so much more advanced than us because everyone has sex with everyone.

    I hate to break it to the authors, but this sort of society would quickly degrade due to a lack of scientific focus. Not to mention that human feelings on the subject are actually pretty immutable. (No matter what anyone says.)

    One way or another, these books are no more entertaining than a porno flick.

    2. Fantasy dressed up as Sci-Fi. I personally don't like Fantasy books all that much. But these books make it that much worse. Most of them have space travel as a background to get to a fantasy-like world. After that, forget about the Sci-Fi.

    Once on the fantasy world, the laws of physics no longer apply. There aren't even social-political issues to work out. There's just some big quest for something. Or a, "look at how much better they are than humans." Blech.

    Personally, I thought Heinlen's juveniles were the best examples of Sci-Fi. Rocket Ship Galileo, The Rolling Stones, and Time for the Stars inspired those of us who wanted to some day reach the stars. Which is amusing since so many of his adult books fell into the categories above.

    Here's what I'd like to see: Someone should write a series of books on what space would be like if we developed nuclear engines. (Orion, NERVA, GCNR, M2P2, NSWR, etc.) Build a grand story around the concepts and push the public to make it happen. We always see space as far in the future. It doesn't have to be!

    An even better bit of Sci-Fi would be a television movie showing the conflicts of developing the first nuclear launch methods. The struggle between the pro and anti nuclear groups. Showing how far people are willing to go for their beliefs. And the results of finally reaching the stars.

    1. Re:Double edged sword by Mukaikubo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Although it doesn't involve nuclear engines, I'd recommend the Firestar series by... um... Flynn. (I can't get to a search engine or Amazon, so working off memory- if Flynn fails, search for Firestar).

      It's about, in extremely broad terms, how mankind goes from more or less current state to one where space travel is accepted as routine, unremarkable, and cheap, there's several large space stations in orbit, et cetera et cetera... basically, every space geek's dream of what could happen in the next 50 years.

      For the love of God, though, stop after Rogue Star, the second book. The last two are a dramatic dropoff in quality.

    2. Re:Double edged sword by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Futures where sex is the only thing driving humanity. Of course, they're so much more advanced than us because everyone has sex with everyone.
      ..
      human feelings on the subject are actually pretty immutable.
      Human feelings are mutable, because humans are mutable. I mean, if we're talking about Science Fiction, is altering humanity (e.g. genetic manipulation, cybernetic surgery, psychological brainwashing, etc) really that hard to swallow?

      No, when it comes to human feelings in Science Fiction, I think just about anything is workable. Perhaps even for the purpose of exploring exactly just how much can be changed and still have a character that is identifiably human, vs what is "going too far."

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  16. If You're Unhappy with SF... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If you're unhappy with the state of SF, perhaps you've just been reading the wrong SF. I am not yet nearly so ready to consign away the entire field (with the exception of a few remaining choice nuggets) as you sound to be. This may well be an excellent book, however there remain more worthwhile books and authors out there to read that I've already discovered (and don't yet have time for) for me to believe SF is a dying field.

    And as another person who has also read a great deal of Mr. Piers Anthony Jacob's works, he entertains well, and often slips in useful observations on life. (A certain RAH was also known for that once upon a time.) He entertained you well once, or you wouldn't have kept reading him.

    To want those hours back now (or someday) is to say that time spent reading is not time well spent. I respectfully disagree, although time spent writing is even better time spent. What else would you have done during that time really that would have been better for you now? Split your time between reading the Encyclopedia Britannica and running cross-country to improve your health? I think not!

    And if P.A. Jacob no longer meets your reading needs, it is not because he has changed, but rather you have. This is not a bad thing for either you -- or him.

    Regardless, you have succeeded in interesting me in this book, and I'll add it to my list as well. However your reasoning behind it seems less than universal.

    And consider reading some authors who only publish on the Internet. Some ideas are too leading edge to sell to editors and publishers. That's how I found this sig line.

    Peace!

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  17. why knock down others in a "Review"? by emptybody · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry sir, you lost me.

    Your introduction slams other authors for no aparent good reason. If you are reviewing a book you can easily say it is better or worse, in your opinion, than some other works.

    It is not necessary to drag in some other persons works and knock them down.

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  18. We seem a little tender today, don't we? by krilli · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come now, there's no need to let your feelings be hurt ... by a book review.

    But still I agree with you, partly: badmouthing is not needed to contrast praise.

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    1. Re:We seem a little tender today, don't we? by Scott+Francis[Mecham · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You may want to stop reading the Internet, then.

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    2. Re:We seem a little tender today, don't we? by nomadic · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd suggest avoiding "reviews" then.

  19. Piers Anthony by truffle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While much of what Piers Anthony has written is crap, he has written several books which I would personally consider good science fiction:

    * Macroscope
    * The Apprentice Adept (books 1-3 only)
    * Incarnations of Imortality (books 1-4 only)

    I'm omiting from this list books that were entertaining but not really good, and books that are clearly fantasy and not sci fi. Of this list only Macroscope is what I'd call pure sci fi, containing no fantasy elements, but it was really quite good, one of his first.

    Most of his sci fi is really quite tollerable and an enjoyable read. When in doubt skim the first chapter, and if the word panties is mentioned skip the book.

    I did of course also quite like his lighter fluffier stuff, it was a staple of my reading from ages 12-17 when I bought anything he wrote.

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  20. Sorta agree with both points of view by OmniGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, much SF is junk (like much of Zelazny and Farmer, and I *thoroughly enjoy* their work); that shouldn't surprise anyone. (Harlequin romances, anyone? Junk is all over literature, and SF is no exception.) Of course, "junk" here has a wildly variable and subjective meaning.

    As far as space opera, I just finished David Weber's "Path of the Fury", and while it doesn't stand up there with Lois McMaster Bujold or C.J. Cherryh, or Weber's other works (comes off somewhat as though put together out of spare parts to turn a buck), it was a great way to spend a 6-hour airplane ride. Best thing I could have done with the time.

    I've spent many an otherwise-wasted hour reading good and bad SF, and I cannot honestly say I regret ANY of it, even *shudder* half of Battlefield Earth (as a research project in "Gods below, surely the book wasn't THAT bad, the filmmaker musta taken liberties... Gaah, he didn't, it was, it was!"). Consider the alternatives, like Harlequin romances, USA Today, and broadcast TV. Even bad written fiction is better than most TV, and it lets us exercise our imaginations instead of rotting our minds.

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  21. Sturgeon's Revelation by Tim+Ward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Grew up and realised that:

    most science fiction sucked

    Yes, of course.

    May I refer you to Sturgeon's Revelation.

  22. SF for adults, please. by rumblin'rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yeah, you're right. Most science fiction sucks. I have about 1000 SF books in my basement from my youth, and I find that few of them are readable now.

    My main problem is not the stories themselves, but the quality of the writing. That many of them are written for 14 year olds doesn't help (although this in itself doesn't make it poor writing).

    We need SF book for adults, for people who have actually become somewhat literate in their dotage. I know they're out there, because I own a few.

  23. Piers Anthony advocates DRM by dmaxwell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Piers Anthony will never see another dime from me. He wrote in one his newsletters last year that he can't see "why some people get so outraged about protections on digital works". He often claims to hate tyranny and love personal liberty but is completely unable to see the connection those things have to DRM.

    I had an email back and forth with him and he brushed off as completely unimportant:

    Forced format changes
    Locking independents out of the market
    Forced choice of platforms
    Retroactive changes of licensing terms
    Rewriting history
    Every other thing about DRM that is problematic.

    Oh and he completely doesn't get that what one clever human can do another clever human can undo which ultimately makes the so-called benefits of DRM moot.

    He seems to think that DRM is his only hope of getting paid in the future. I got the distinct impression that to him Disney and the *IAA are completely reasonable aggrieved souls. For all of his professed love of liberty and justice, he comes off like Jack Valenti when it comes to his wallet. His works emphasize his dislike of censorship. He hasn't seen anything yet and he has no idea that he is now an advocate of censorship. If he likes DRM then he'll have to like everything that comes with it.

    This is fine. I won't misappropriate his stuff online but I won't fund him anymore.

    1. Re:Piers Anthony advocates DRM by cardshark2001 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Piers Anthony will never see another dime from me. He wrote in one his newsletters last year that he can't see "why some people get so outraged about protections on digital works". He often claims to hate tyranny and love personal liberty but is completely unable to see the connection those things have to DRM.

      What's that got to do with whether you enjoy his fiction? It's like the Seinfeld where Elaine refuses to eat at Poppy's pizza place because he's against abortion.

      Hell, I like some of L Ron Hubbard's stuff, and we all know what a psycho he was (he invented scientology, in case you didn't know).

      The fact that he was even willing to discuss stuff with you is pretty impressive, even if you disagree. You may have no idea what other authors feel about your pet political issues, because they never interact with the public. Piers should be punished because he does interact with his fans?

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    2. Re:Piers Anthony advocates DRM by dmaxwell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is because I find his position in context to be utterly offensive. Yes, he answers his own email. Yes he'll even discuss his own views. I'm not "punishing" him because he interacts with his fans. I'm "punishing" him for rank hypocrasy.

      His favoring of DRM is completely counter to everything he claims to stand for. I also try to avoid funding DRM advocates on general principle. I'll grant that is difficult these days but I will boycott the more obvious ways of giving Disney money for instance.

      I'll even still read his stuff but only if I can pick it legitimately without funding him. I'm thinking of things like libraries and used bookshops.

  24. Author website by charlie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi there.

    If you want to read more of my stuff, there are some (older) stories on my fiction pages.

    If you want to know when the sequel, "Iron Sunrise", is due out (and the other books I've got coming), see my books FAQ.

    And there is of course the obligatory weblog, but because it's CGI-mediated and my server's decidedly on the elderly side I'm not going to post the URL here. (If you want it badly enough and you're clueful you'll find it :)

    1. Re:Author website by charlie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm told I'm cited as the primary source for the verb "to slashdot" in the Oxford English Dictionary corpus. (They're after printed sources, not online ones, so this is rather unfair -- I didn't invent the verb-backformation, after all.)

      I don't use /. reader personality traits in my fiction. But I do read /. daily -- as I have done for some years -- and use it as a fertile source of pointers to new ideas. (If I use any net personality types in my fiction it's from usenet -- which I've been reading since about 1989. All of human life is there, kinda-sorta, including both saints and the sorts who live under rocks.)

      Added bonus factoid: Singularity Sky was written on Linux and MacOS/X boxen, using Vim. Formatting was done using POD macros, and the source was kept under RCS control (CVS is massive overkill for novels). The output files (in RTF and PDF) were finally generated using some command line tools and a makefile I knocked together ...

      ... Then I had to find a box running Microsoft Word in order to import the files and save them in the file format the publisher wanted. (And people wonder why I wash my hands compulsively?)

  25. Re:And regarding the so-called singularity by dsplat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't get the impression from what I've read of Vinge that he views the singularity as a discontinuity. The problem is that we understand progress and innovation based on models of their first and second derivatives that simply won't apply beyond the singularity.

    An interesting point to consider is that singularities have happened to humanity before, but on a greater time scale. Speech made it possible to convey information from one individual to another abstractly. Writing made it possible to convey information across distances and time. Each of these advances changed the nature of what is required for humans to acquire skills and knowledge and push beyond the boundaries of what is already known.

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  26. Please . . . less rant, more review! by StefanJ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This review had barely a thing to say about the book.

    Other than avoiding the Sci-Fi Comfort Food syndrome, how was it? Was it well based? Were the characters interesting and believable? Was the technology well worked out, or just wish-fulfillment stuff?

    While I agree with much of the reviewers ranting, I was really disappointed in this piece as a review.

    Stefan "More about the Singularity here!" Jones

  27. This is an example of how to ruin a discussion by DavidBrown · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's quite fascinating. I saw the article on /., and decided to read it. But most of the comments that have been highly moderated (forgive me, but I cruise at filter +2) are comments either attacking or defending Piers Anthony instead of discussing Singularity Sky and the talents of Charlie Stross.

    Why did this happen?

    It happened because the submitter, timothy, decided to attack Piers Anthony in his post as a target of opportunity, and the /. staff decided to let it in (assuming timothy isn't on the /. staff himself - I wouldn't know).

    Why was this attack posted? If timothy had submitted a post entitled "Piers Anthony Sucks" it wouldn't have been accepted by /. editors.

    At this point it seems that nobody cares about Stross's novel, which is a shame.

    For these reasons, I think that the /. staff should consider this story to be an example of a failure of editing, and should consider the idea that it's better to leave the personal attacks /. readers instead of posters and editors.

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