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GitS Sequel and Appleseed Remake Are Coming
LocusMote writes "Masamune Shirow, the creative genius behind the manga and anime Ghost in the Shell , has a few new irons fresh from the fire. One of his earlier manga, Appleseed, already exists as a rather disappointing television quality anime. Shirow thought so too, apparently. He went back to the original manga storyline, blew off the dust, and has produced a beautiful new all-CG Appleseed which hits the Japanese theaters in April. (Quicktime required) Oh yeah, there's a Ghost in the Shell sequel in the pipeline, too, called Innocence ... w00t!" Beautiful.
The more Shirow we can get, the better. The art's gorgeous, and there's nothing like freaking out people with pictures from GitS.
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Um... the Ghost in the Shell sequel has been known about for quite some time now.... am I missing something here? Not really news, is it?
Nonetheless, it looks completely awesome, the trailer alone has some of the coolest 2D/3D hybrid animation I've seen.
Read Pynchon.
I was a real believer in Shirow during, about, the early days of Appleseed, but he never really delivered... just degenerated into pin-ups and obsessing over types of weapon...
I guess there's always a new generation ready to look at cyborg lesbians, though
Whence? Hence. Whither? Thither.
> What are you smoking? Stand Alone Complex is one of my favourite series out there
He didn't say you didn't like it - he said it was awful. There is a difference.
I'm currently up to episode 11 of stand alone complex. So far I'm enjoying it immensely. I enjoyed the GiTS movie, but, to make it movie length too many things got cut out.
SAC although a different storyline, is touching a lot more subjects that were covered in the original manga.
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Well. Lisencing takes time. They couldnt release it until after they recieved the masters from japan. These masters are not shipped out until after the show is finished. The tv show had a lot of financial backing from varied sources, including the US, and its been lisenced since before it aired in japan. Of course its been a long time.
Additionally, the Japanese sometimes _want_ the US companies to delay their releases, so fans will buy it in Japan. Theres a problem with reverse-importing anime. A lot of Japanese fans will just say "just wait on the US dvd, its in Japanese, half the cost, and it comes with neat english extras."
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Tolekin is only behind the books.
TLotR the movie would never have been the wonder it was without the genius that is Peter Jackson.
I'll go as far as saying Peter Jackson gave more power to the story than Tolkein ever could.
Appleseed, in my opinion, was always a better story than Ghost in the Shell. GitS was pretty superficial, jumped around a lot, and now suffers from a massive incomprehensibility complex, not unlike one of his other manga, Orion.
Frankly, I also enjoyed his art more before he started doing this blend of CG and penciling.
I hope this anime lives up to the manga. That's tough, but I already recognized parts of the story in the trailer, and it certainly looks pretty. I also hope that they get some decent voice acting for Deunan and Briareos. I have an idea of what their voices should be like in my head, and if Deunan ends up with a bimbo-y voice, and Briareos has a whiny bishonen voice, I'll be pretty sad.
I'll have to check out Lain, but it is pretty clear that GitS was influentian. As an example notice how the agent lands on the roof of the building, cracking the tiles underneath him, holding his gun at the side of his head.
There is also a lot of discussion about the nature of reality and things plugging into the back of people's heads. Also arguments about whether an AI is a sentient entity, though that is more from the Zion Archives stuff on the Animatrix.
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whath them in japanese with subtitles.
often what happens when they translate and dub anime is that the translation is compromised so that the sound fits in with the mouth movement - i'm not talking exactly here, by example...
perhaps in Japanese someone can say "waaachaaa" and in English it actually means "hey how you doing, gee i haven't seen you in ages". so the dubbers will reduce the english to match the amount of time taken to say "waaachaa" and will come up with something like "hello". extend that to cultural references and more in-depth conversations and you begin to understand that watching a dubbed version of an anime is perhaps not a great idea if you're after good dialogue.
i saw GITS first in English, twice as that was the only VHS version available to me. i then got it on DVD and watched it with subtitles where they tend not to compromise (although some subtitles can be awfully done!). the film took on an entirely different meaning to me - a lot of the "side scenes" (for example the apparantly random scene of the old dude getting out of the helicopter) actually made sense to me!
one great example of rectifying this was Princess Mononoke where the entire edit was redone based on a translation from the brilliant Neil Gaiman. here Gaiman not only correctly translated the film, but he also adapted some of the metaphors and cultural references so that they had a western spin on them. the film was then re-edited so that the mouths matched his translation. watch it, its fantastic - don't get put off by the Disney'esque animation: after about 4 minutes of Bambi-like scenes evil monsters begin to appear and then someone has his head knocked off with an arrow...but its more than just that, it includes some fabulous human dichotomy and awesome fantasy scenses.
so that may be one reason you haven't enjoyed your anime experience. the other is perhaps you've watched the wrong ones. most of the "famous" ones are more action orientated (Akira, GITS, Ninja Scroll). you may wish to watch something more dramatic like Grave of the Fireflies. personally it was far to slow for my liking, you may enjoy it or find similar anime that isn't all just blood & guts.
Is keeping it real the 'most' important thing? In being willing to dwell in the fantastic, one can be said to be exploring the reality of human nature.
I'm going to invoke the big one: "Neon Genesis Evangelion," and submit that sure Hideki Anno and Co. are presenting larger than life humanoid artificial life things, and man is trying to play god, but isn't that always the case? Isn't the frailty of life and the human heart the story they are trying to tell - rather than 'oh big robots! cool!'.
The first "Ghost in the Shell" was a little hard to follow seeon once, but I certainly got a lot more from it watching it again and reflecting than what you are describing above.
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The Japanese region 2 GitS:SAC DVDs don't have English subtitles. What you got are the Hong Kong bootlegs. You may want to check http://www.digital.anime.org.uk/piratefaq.html for more info.
Agreed. It was terrible, and had little to nothing to do with the manga. Let's just ignore it.
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I wonder how you could be modded insightful, as the difference between GitS manga and GitS anime are an order of magnitude more than the ones between LotR book and film.
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You seem also to imply that there was a lot of fans of GitS manga, and that it was a masterpiece, before the movie was created, as it is the case for LotR.
That is just not true.
Mamoru Oshii incentives to do a film have nothing to do with the incentives of Hollywood. They would never have done anime/films like the ones Mamoru Oshii has done (Tenshi no tamago, Patlabor 1 and 2, Avalon,
You should have been modded funny I think
But just as I imply here, I guess not every moderator can be a fan of Oshii enough to understand.
Gotta agree with kahei. All bad Appleseed must be destroyed
But c'mon man! Look at that Appleseed trailer again and tell me that it doesn't do some apology for the original.
Now if only we could get Russel Mulcahy to brush off and do a remake of Highlander 2: The Apology.